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v.1-10 - Notice that Hannah's prayer is entirely one of praise. How often do you pray in this way? I don't. My prayers always move on to an expression of my desires. There is a lot to learn from this woman's prayer.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.5 The idea of the hungry being fed is seen as:- 'he hath filled the hungry with good things' [Luke 1:53] The idea 'born seven' is picked up [Jeremiah 15:9] to show the desolation of the priesthood at the time of the captivity. Remember that Jeremiah was a priest.
v.6 The Lord kills and makes alive is a quotation from [Deuteronomy 32:39]
v.31 The sons of Eli were evil, therefore Yahweh promises that he will replace the sons of Eli [Levi] with a faithful priesthood. In fact this turns out to be Zadok as explained in [1 Kings 2:27 - 35]
The genealogy is thus:
The removal of Abiathar is the fulfilment of 1 Samuel 2:31
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.3 - Here is a great insight into our nature. We do indeed talk proudly and with great arrogance. We judge our fellow men by the standards we know to be right but we don't judge ourselves because we lack knowledge of our own failings in the arrogance of thinking that we are getting it right. We do well to remember these words of prayerful Hannah to keep our thinking in perspective. It is God that judges at all times. He is the only one with the knowledge to do so.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
2:9 He will keep the feet is quoted in Ecclesiastes 5:1 indicating the sense of the phrase. Samuel was to be a faithful priest who ordered the way that the people walked.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
Kick Ye
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Deut 32:15 | |
lightly esteemed
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Whilst Deuteronomy says Israel lightly esteemed God Eli lightly esteemed the sacrifices he offered. These things amount to the same thing. The way we behave shows what we think of our Father.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
V.12 Eli's sons would not become high priests because of unfaithfulness, Saul's son would not become king because of unfaithfulness; but, David's greater son will incorporate both offices. King and High Priest.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
Hannah had 5 more children (1Sam 2:20,21). 5 is thought of as the number of grace. It's very true here.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to David
V.1-10 That Hannah should be guided to express her praise and thanksgiving in words so far reaching in their meaning is surely an indication of the importance in God's purpose of both Samuel and his mother.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
2:5 Hannah’s comment that ‘the barren hath born seven’ is a comment on the production of sons by barren women. As the table shows Samuel was the seventh son born to barren women.
Name |
Barren |
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Sarah |
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Isaac |
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Rachel |
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Jacob Esau |
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Rebekah |
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Joseph Benjamin |
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Manoah’s wife |
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Samson |
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Hannah |
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Samuel |
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Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
V.1 - "horn" Heb. "qeren" (7161) means "a horn (as projecting); (by implication) a flask, coronet; (by resemblance) an elephant's tooth (i.e. ivory), a corner (of the altar), a peak (of a mountain), a ray (of light); (figuratively means) power; hill, horn".
V.6,8 - might this "bringeth up" and "make them inherit the throne of glory" refer to the resurrection and the Abrahamic inheritance of the future millennial kingdom of God on earth?
V.9 - "keep the feet of his saints" perhaps suggests millennial preservation vs the silent darkness of death/destruction for the wicked and "for by strength shall no man prevail" perhaps suggests that no one by their own strength/works can earn eternal life but it is through mercy and grace that we have hope.
V.10 - "the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed". Keeping in mind the previous verses and (Luke 1:69) might this have a Messianic millennial application?
V.12,22,23,24,25 - Eli realizes his children are not following God's ways but is too weak a parent to correct their behaviour. Similarly, believers today can't turn a blind eye to their children's behaviour and then later try to feebly address matters when the die is already cast (Ecc 12:1).
V.35 - perhaps this refers to Samuel serving Christ forever in the millennial age. Mention of "a sure house" is later found (1Chron 25:5-6) referring to Samuel's grandson.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Charles
V.10 This is the first time in scripture that the word "anointed"(Messiah) appears in this sense. As there was no king in Israel at the time, it appears to be pointing forward to Christ. There is a remarkable resemblance between the song of Hannah and that of Mary (Luke 1:46)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to John
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
IN CONTEMPT OF THE OFFERING
The sins of Eli's sons are graphically described for us, contrasted against the character of the young boy Samuel. Eli's sons were priests. it was their job to be God's representatives to the people. They were the ones who should have been setting the example of behaviour required of all the Israelites by God. But instead the sons of Eli were leaders in wickedness. They were more wicked and had less regard for God than most of the people who came to offer their sacrifices at the temple.
One verse sums up their lives and characters very well. It says, "This sin of the young men was very great in the LORD's sight, for they were treating the LORD's offering with contempt." (1Sam 2:17) They held no regard for God, and as a consequence, they held no regard for anyone else. Without respect for God and his offerings their whole moral fibre went out the door. They sinned in all sorts of ways, even "sleeping with the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting." (v.22)
We may feel shocked at their antics, but how much respect and reverence do we have for God? Are we much different? Where are our thoughts during prayers at our Sunday morning services? Does God's word really speak to us when it is read? Do we listen? Do our lives outside of church measure up to the way God wants us to live?
Let's examine ourselves to make sure we are not treating Christ's offering with contempt.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Robert
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
Vs.32,34 The sons of Eli were aptly named to reflect their characters. Hophni means pugilist; and Phinehas means mouth of brass (brazen mouth). These two arrogant, combative priests perverted the sacrifices and, in their greed, coerced the people to give them the best parts of their sacrificial meat. They also forced the women employed for the tabernacle to have sex with them. Their father Eli did not act as a judicious parent, or senior priest, to stop them. Thus, Yahweh brought them punishment. This episode should serve as a warning to those in a role of leadership.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
2:3 Whilst one might consider that Hannah is speaking to Peninnah with these words it would be out of keeping for a Godly woman to speak like this of anyone. She is doubtless encouraging herself – and any other who has been blessed by God – not to feel self righteous.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
Vs.1-10 These verses constitute Hannah’s hymn.
V.12 Belial (KJV) is presented as a proper noun, whereas it should be translated as a regular adjective. Belial means wicked or worthless. Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial (KJV) is translated Now the sons of Eli were worthless men (ESV).
V.21 Hannah and Samuel foreshadow Mary and Jesus:
-Hannah had Samuel as a special gift from God (1Sam 1:20)
-Mary had Jesus through the intervention of the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35)
-Samuel was wholly dedicated to Yahweh from birth to death (1Sam 1:22)
-Jesus was wholly dedicated to His Father’s will from birth to death (Matt 26:42)
-Samuel grew in favour with Yahweh and man (v.26)
-Jesus grew in favour with God and man (Luke 2:52)
-Hannah went on to have other children after Samuel (v.21)
-Mary had other children after Jesus (Matt 13:56; Mark 3:31).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
V.1 - "I rejoice in thy salvation" - perhaps this refers to Jesus.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Charles
2:10 Peninnah had been described as an ‘adversary’ - 1Sam 1:6 - so Hannah saw Peninnah as God’s not her, adversary.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
2:2 The way in which Hannah speaks of God rolls easily off the tongue. It is so simple a statement that we may miss the force of her words. She was barren and God had opened her womb. She sees that God holds the solution to her problems, not her husband, on this issue and so ascribes glory to Him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
2:2-10 Compare the language and themes of Hannah's prayer with the book of Job, specifically v6-10 with Job's initial lament in Job 3. One notable parallel is where Job talks of his desire to go down into the grave, to lie amongst the dead princes of the earth whilst Hannah talks of bringing down to Sheol, and raising up - lifting the poor and needy to sit with the princes.
Joshua Carmody [Eastern Suburbs] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Joshua
“Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto all Israel…Nay, my sons; for it is no good report that I hear…Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto the voice of their father…”
Eli was the high priest and his two sons, Hophni and Phinehas, the priests. Regardless of titles or positions, personal obedience is always elevated above all other qualifying factors (1Sam 15:22). Within the lives of these men we see how God deals with bad spiritual leaders, our own role in the process, and what we should seek to emulate.
The sons of Eli are referred to as “sons of Belial” (v. 12), which describes them as wicked idolaters. They were fornicators turning Israelite women into Temple prostitutes (v. 22) at the door of the Tabernacle – the very spot they came to be purified (Exo 38:8)! Hophni and Phinehas had no fellowship with God; they were in the ecclesia, but not of the ecclesia. They did not care to know the LORD (Yahweh), did not follow His divinely appointed ordinances (1Sam 2:13-15), they transgressed the divine order appointed in the law of the priest’s portion (Lev 7:31-36) for their bellies sake, that was commanded first to be offered to the LORD. They chose to serve the LORD their way, not His way (1Sam 2:16; c.f. Deut 18:3)!
Eli knew all that was going on and when the Israelites complained (v. 24), he gave them a mild rebuke, but never administered discipline. Their crimes were enormous! Old Testament law mandated death not only for disobedient and rebellious children, which they were (v. 25), but also for the kind of sacrilege they committed. Their forefather, Phinehas, plunged a spear through a fornicating couple desecrating the Tabernacle (Num 25:7-8)!
Eli was a heavy man (1Sam 4:18) who also served his own belly (v. 29). He was just as much a part of the problem. His heart was not right before God, and God executed the punishments as prophesied (1Sam 2:34; 1Sam 4:11), striking down dead his two sons, after which Eli also died. “Shall the Judge of all the earth not do right (Gen 18:25)?”
Since Eli and his sons were direct descendents of Aaron, the first high priest, their descendents would have inherited the priesthood forever (Exo 29:9), but they broke God’s covenant, so that God decreed that none of Eli’s descendents would ever be priests, and stripped Eli and all his house of their power and authority (vv. 30-31). His posterity would see the glory of the chief priest given to another, whom they would envy (1Sam 2:32-33). The faithful priest we read of in verse 35, who will walk before God’s anointed forever is Zadok, who was a figure of Christ. He succeeded the high priest Abiathar, who should never have been made a priest in the first place (1Kin 1:5-8; 2:27), as Eli’s descendents were to be inferior in status and position to Zadok and all priests thereafter (1Sam 2:36).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Valerie
2:10 In speaking of the lifting the horn of the anointed Hannah clearly sees the promise of her son as another step in the purpose of God in providing the “seed” for Psa 89:24 which is a Psalm speaking of the fulfilment of the promises to David in the provision of Christ.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
2:26 The way in which Samuel grew in favour with God and man is also the way that John’s development as a child is described – Luke 1:80
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
A new way to look at Hannah
It is clear from v6 how deeply depressed Hannah had become over the issue of her inability to have children. She likens her predicament to death, from which God had now made her alive, and the grave, from which He had raised her. This is similar language to how Sarah and Abraham are described, being past childbearing age (Rom 4:19). Was Hannah perhaps past childbearing? The way Hannah is described in 1Sam 1:5 would fit in with this.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Rob
2:30 In saying that Eli “Lightly esteemed” the things of God he is being reminded of the words of Deut 32:15
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
2:12 That the sons of Eli were wicked may well have been the reason why Hannah wanted a son. She saw that left to the sons of Eli the priesthood would disintegrate.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
2:7-9 If only we could have the faith of Hannah and recognise that the events of our life are ordered by God.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
2:17-18 Notice the contrast between Hophni and Phinehas and the other priests on the one hand and Samuel on the other.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
2:22-24 So it seems that Eli only “heard” about his son’s behaviour. He seems not to have had first-hand knowledge of their behaviour. Surely a failing on Eli’s part. He should have investigated what he heard rather than just talking to his sons about their reported behaviour.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
2:11 So matter of fact. The focus in on Hannah’s commitment, not her loss. Maybe we can learn from this.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
2:18 Samuel was a “son of Jorah” – 1Chron 6:33-37. This will be seen to be significant as we move through the book of Samuel.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
2:10 The words “out of heaven shall He thunder“ are echoed in John: “Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered” (Jno. 12:28-29). And just as Hannah said, “Yahweh shall judge the ends of the earth”, so Christ too goes on to speak of the coming judgment upon the Jewish world: “Now is the judgment of this world” (Jno. 12:31).
Nigel Bernard [Pembroke Dock UK] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Nigel
2:18 Samuel was a “son of Korah” – 1Chron 6:33-37. This will be seen to be significant as we move through the book of Samuel.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
2:2 Hannah’s exclamation that God was the only rock echoes how Moses spoke – Deut 32:21 – at the end of the wilderness journey.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
WORTHLESS MEN
It was almost as if they didn't believe God existed. Hophni and Phinehas were priests of the Living God. Their job was to serve God in the tabernacle, to supervise the offerings of the worshippers and teach the people to love, honour and obey the LORD their God. But instead Hophni and Phinehas despised the offerings, blatantly disobeyed God, and encouraged (and even forced) others to do the same. They got fat serving a God they should have honoured when they loved themselves more.
The Bible describes them as "worthless men," and says that "they did not know the LORD." (1Sam 2:12).
We might look on in horror at Hophni and Phinehas, but we also need to examine our own lives. Do we act in a similar way? Are there parts of our lives we would rather God didn't see? Are there times when we think he is not watching? Do we honour him in ALL we do, or do we speak or serve for our own glory and fulfilment? Do we treat the gifts we have been given (our income, cars, houses, relationships, or the Bible) with the respect that we should, knowing that these are a gift from God to us for his glory?
God said, "For those who honour me, I will honour, and those who despise me will be lightly esteemed." (v.30).
Let's honour God will all our actions and words.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Robert
2:2 Hannah’s prayer was a prayer of thankfulness to God because he had heard her prayer. But notice she is not simply thanking God. She is stating her confidence in His supremacy. Her son that had been born was evidence of that supremacy. Do we see the answering of our prayers as an evidence of the supremacy and uniqueness of God?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
2:10 Hannah speaks of a “king" many years before Israel had a king – she is looking to the time when God’s anointed, Messiah, will reign. She must have seen the birth of her son as part of that plan.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
2:22 [Hophni and Phinehas] lay with the women who were serving at the entrance to the tent of meeting.
These women servants were originally established in Exodus 38:8 "the ministering women who ministered in the entrance of the tent of meeting". Their duties are not specified. They may also have helped in caring for Samuel in the absence of his mother.
Bruce Bates [Forbes Australia] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Bruce
2:1 Doubtless all faithful believers pray for their requests to be granted. But how many pray in thankfulness when the prayer has been answered? In this Hannah is an excellent example for us to copy.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2025 Reply to Peter
v. 21 - The concept of streams in the desert is quite common in Isaiah [30:25, 35:6,7, 41:17-18, 43:19,20, 49:10], but this passage relates it clearly back to the care that God had for his people in the Wilderness. The implications of this for us as we go through this wilderness of our lives in preparation for entry into his promised kingdom are quite clear.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.1 truth and righteousness were not seen in Israel in the days of Isaiah. However Zechariah, contrasting the times of Isaiah, promises a time when this will be reversed. [Zechariah 8:8] further developing the way in which Isaiah's words have been fulfilled at the time of the return from Babylon.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.10 - Having pointed out the pride and vanity of their lives, God now tells them that He has chosen them in the furnace of affliction. Here is the fire by which our faith is tried - the fire of chastening, which can either build and purify or destroy, depending on our reaction. It is the bad things in our lives that have the greatest potential to humble us and therefore the greatest effect on our standing before God, but only if we let them build us.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
:16 Against the background of Israel's sinfulness Isaiah says that his words (God's words) have not been spoken in secret. Jesus makes the same claim (John 18:20) before his accusers - sinful rebellious leaders.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
48:19 In quoting the promises to Abraham (Gen 22:17) God is lamenting the sorry state of Israel. They were to be a blessed nation - but Isaiah is speaking of their captivity in Babylon.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
V.22 Repeated in 57:21 The blessings just mentioned belong to the godly, not the wicked. Israel shall first cast away its wickedness before it shall inherit national prosperity: Zech 12:10-14, Zech 13:1 , 9, Zech 14:3, Zech 14:20-21 This of course holds true for all of mankind
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
IF ONLY...
Hindsight is wonderful. With hindsight we have 20/20 vision. With it we can see the consequences of our actions and decide on different choices that would have given us different results. Unfortunately hindsight comes after the event, usually after the mistake has been made, and in many cases it is preceded by the words, "If only..."
God gives Israel and "If only..." thought. He says, "If only you had paid attention to my commands, your peace would have been like a river, your righteousness like the waves of the sea. Your descendants would have been like the sand, your children like its numberless grains; their name would never be cut off or destroyed from before me." (Isa 48:18-19) But Israel did not obey, therefore they received none of these blessings. If only they had, how different things would have been for them and the world.
Cast your mind into the future. There we stand before the judgement seat of Christ. The blessing of immortality is before us along with the rewards of faithful service. But also before us there is outer darkness and separation from all that is good. Will there be heard an "If only..." coming from our mouths or the mouth of the Lord Jesus on that day? "If only you had paid attention to my commands." If we can hear that "If only..." now, let's change the way we live so that in that day we will be blessed with immortality and a great reward, having no regrets.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Robert
Today’s chapter again tells Israel, and us, that the Lord God is the God of Israel, and He will not fail them. The last 3 verses, Isa 48:20-22, are a fascinating prophecy. Israel had not yet been taken captive by Babylon, but God says that not only would they go, but in the future they would return.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to David
48:2 The way that Judah ‘stay themselves upon the God of Israel’ was not faithful behaviour – see verse :1 which explains Paul’s inspired use of this language in Rom 2:17
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
48:10 The concept of refining is a clear one in Scripture which speaks of the development of a spiritual character. However on this occasion God says it will be achieved with ‘affliction’
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
V.10 When silver is refined, all the dross (scum and impurities) are removed so that the pure metal shines through. However, Yahweh did not remove the dross from His people. Instead, He put them in a furnace (crucible) of affliction. Captive in Babylon, they had a long, miserable time to reflect upon the errors of their ways. Only after the captivity, were they reconciled to Yahweh when they were re-installed in Judah and Jerusalem.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
LISTEN TO THE TEACHER
If we had a teacher or a mentor that we could guarantee was always right no matter what the situation seemed to be, we would listen to them and put our trust in them, wouldn't we? We do have a teacher who is always right, and more than that, he always has our personal best interests at heart.
"This is what the LORD says - your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: 'I am the LORD your God who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go. If only you had paid attention to my commands, your peace would have been like a river, your righteousness like the waves of the sea." (Isa 48:17-18) This being the case, how often do we really do what God tells us to do? Let's go back one step further. How often do we sit down to listen to God's teaching? I mean really listen - not just read the Bible for the sake of reading it, but prayerfully and patiently learn from the greatest teacher ever. Many of the things he teaches us are uncomfortable because they go against our nature, but we need to remember that it is all for our best.
So let's make a much bigger effort to listen to God and to do what he tells us to do. If we always remember that his teaching is for our best and that we will have peace like a river if we follow his instructions, we will be well motivated to follow the LORD wherever he leads us.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Robert
V.9 Yahweh called Israel to be a people for His Name’s sake (v.11; Deut 14:2). For that reason, Yahweh would never completely destroy His people. He might punish them, but He would always leave a remnant (Isa 10:21).
V.18 If Israel had obeyed Yahweh, then, He would let peace flow to them like a river (Euphrates) (See Isa 33:21; 41:18). Righteousness would roll like the waves. But, righteousness is the precursor of peace (Isa 32:17).
V.22 This verse has become a common expression in the world as: There’s no peace for the wicked.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
48:1 In speaking of the ‘house of Jacob’ as called ‘the name of Israel’ Isaiah was reminding his hearers of how the name of Jacob – supplanter – was changed to Israel – prince with God(Gen 32:28)
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
48:1 Being ‘called’ by God’s name is a high privilege which brings with it great responsibilities. So the contemporary prophet Amos speaks of punishment that will flow for sins because of the high calling. Amos 3:2. Do we appreciate that the same responsibility is ours?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
48:12-15 Israel, and ourselves for that matter, accept that God created everything. This truth is presented as the basis for asserting that there is no other God. Our behaviour, often, gives lie to this belief. We often place our trust in things we can see rather than in the promises of God.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
Wes Booker [South Austin Texas USA] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Wes
48:4-7 Israel’s obstinacy is the reason why God speaks of His creative and prophetic ability. Lest Israel lay claim to events as being done by their idols. It is all about recognising to whom we submit ourselves as the final authority.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
48:20 The joyful voice of singing here is contrasted with the despair in singing spoken of inPsa 137:1
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
1. Isa 48:1-2 - Jews invoking the God of Israel but not in truth or righteousness [Isa 8:6 - the Jews refused the waters of Shiloah and thus despised the word God sent to Judah, even the everlasting covenant with David, thus this is Judah after the flesh; John 7:37 - the invitation of his word was refused (they were not Abraham's children according to their works John 8:39-43); Rom 9:6 - not all Israel is Israel; Rev 3:9 - those who say they are Jews but are not; Rev 21:23-27 -
only those in the lamb's book of life shall enter the holy city]; V1 Hezekiah didn't have a lasting reformation or one that truly changed the hearts of the people.
2. Isa 48:3 - God prophetically announced and performed mighty acts on Israel's behalf in the past.
3. Isa 48:4-5 - knowing how stubborn the Jews were, God prophesied things so they could not give credit to their idols once that which was prophesied happened.
4. Isa 48:6-7 - what are the "new things"? Is this the deliverance from Babylon? Is this the millennial deliverance? Is this the Gospel also being preached to the Gentiles?
5. Isa 48:8 - a rebellious treacherous Israel that doesn't listen to God with an allusion to the name of Jacob the heel catcher or supplanter.
6. Isa 48:9 - Judah was not cut off against against Assyria as God's anger was deferred.
7. Isa 48:9,11 - God for His name's sake would defer His anger that His name might not be polluted (Eze 36:20-23).
8. Isa 48:10-11 - is the prophecy shifting here from Israel to the Messiah and the new Israel? V10 refined, and tested in the furnace of affliction.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Charles
9. Isa 48:12-15 - V12 God is the first and the last and the Alpha and Omega but since Christ has risen from the dead and manifests God, there could be application to him also (Isa 44:6;Rev 1:8,17;Rev 22:12-13); Vs 14-15 God has called his arm (Cyrus, Christ, or both?) to do his pleasure on Babylon, but is this ancient Babylon, the Babylon of Rome (Rev 18:2,4,9,16,18,21), or both?
10. Isa 48:14-16 - is this the spirit of Christ in Isaiah?
11. Isa 48:14,20 - could this have application to the Babylon of Rome (Rev 18:4)?
12. Isa 48:17 - through Isaiah (and Christ?), God is the instructor of both king and nation and the redeemer ransoming the people from bondage.
13. Isa 48:18 - Israel didn't harken to God's (or Christ's?) commandments (Christ didn't speak in secret John 18:20).
14. Isa 48:19 - seed like sand with an allusion to Messianic promise (Gen 22:17;Gen 13:16).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Charles
15. Isa 48:20 - flee Babylon; spread the "Good News" to the ends of the earth that the Lord has redeemed Israel.
16. Isa 48:20-21 - the exodus from Babylon is similar to the exodus from Egypt; those who want to say Isaiah 40-66 was written during Cyrus' reign and thus not prophetic run into a series of details that don't fit; they thirsted not when he led them through the desert an water flowed from the rock i.e. Christ (Exo 17:3-7;Isa 49:9-12;1Cor 10:1-13;John 7:37-39).
17. Isa 48:22 - (in contrast to the above "Good News") there is no peace for the wicked (the wicked will be destroyed Psa 145:20).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Charles
48:18 Maybe we think of God as a God who seeks to punish sinners. Well, indeed he does. However it does not give Him pleasure. As we can see here He pleaded with Israel that they might listen to His commandments so He could bless them. It is the same God that we worship.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
48:15 Note yet again how Isaiah is inspired to speak of the way in which God created the heavens and the earth.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
48:20 We should remember this prophecy about Israel being freed from Babylon was given around 100 years before Judah was even taken captive by Babylon and is speaking of a time 70 years after that captivity. No one alive when Isaiah spoke these words would be alive at the time of the deliverance. Indeed none of the people listening to what Isaiah said would experience the captivity either.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
48:9 “For my name’s sake” is not just a trite comment. God’s name is seen in His character – Exo 34:6-7. It is because of those qualities that Israel was not destroyed and it is because of those qualities that we can have a hope of eternal life through the forgiveness of sins.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
48:11 Notice Yahweh’s concern. He emphasises twice that for His own sake He will not allow His name to be polluted with idols. Israel polluted His name by their behaviour. So can we.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
48:21 the way the prophet speaks here is one of the many times that God reminded Israel how He had cared for them on their journey from Egypt to the land of Canaan. Because it seems so “natural” that we have food and clothing we are liable to forget that God is caring for us. That was what the nation of Israel forgot and so they were not appreciative of Him. Consequently they soon forgot His words also. The warning for us is stark.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
48:17 Is this how we view God? Do we think that He teaches us things for our profit? If so where do we think we learn them from?
Some spend time reading novels, others watching drama on television or at the cinema.
The “company” we keep affects the way we think – 1Cor 15:33
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
48:3 Prophecy, inevitably, can take a long time to be fulfilled. Just like it was a long time after the promise of Cyrus until he delivered Israel from the Babylonian captivity. But certainly things that God has promised will happen, and happen speedily. We need to have confidence that our father knows exactly what He is doing and that in His due time the words will be fulfilled.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
47:5-7 Babylon had spoken of herself as a lady but in fact she was a harlot. She was seen differently by God from how she saw herself. Herein is a lesson for us. Whilst we might not be viewed as a “harlot” and we might not see ourselves metaphorically as a “lady” we do well to reflect on the fact that we might have a rather high opinion of ourselves. We will form a correct view of ourselves if we absorb His teaching as we read His word regularly.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2025 Reply to Peter
48:2-4 Notice the contrast. The nation claimed to be putting their trust in God but He recognised that it was a sham because they were “obstinate”. He had worked wonders for them to see but they had little or no impact on them. In like manner we see evidences of His existence and how he is working in the world as we look at the simple things of His Creation – the trees and animals. What impact do those simple evidences have on us?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2025 Reply to Peter
5 v. 2 - Is this a reference back to Isa. 29:11,12? It makes no difference whether man is learned or not - he only has access to the book of God through Christ, the Lamb that was (and is) worthy to open the book of life for us.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
5:9 The redeemed sing a new song because they have been made 'kings and priests'. This is our calling. As such our life now is the training ground for priesthood. The priest in Israel was able to understand the needs of the offerer because he was human as the offerer [see Hebrews 5:1-2]. Thus as we learn how to deal with our own weakness now we will be able to succour the mortal population in the Millennium. So our chastening and our weaknesses are not just 'chance happenings' They are ordained by our Father that we will be able to minister in the age to come.
6 v.15-17 During the sixth seal, when 'the wrath of the lamb' is seen the 'important' men on the earth try to hide from that wrath. On the other hand the servants of God are invited to hide until the indignation be overpast [Isaiah 26:20] showing that Yahweh's judgements are not indiscriminate. He cares for His children.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
lion of ... Judah
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Gen 49:9 | |
root of
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Isa 11:1 | |
four beasts
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Eze 1:5 | |
lamb as it had been slain
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Isa 53:7 |
The way in which these four passages have been drawn together by the Spirit in Revelation 5 is most interesting.
The blessings of Jacob are linked with the promise of the righteous king (Isaiah 11) who is a manifestation of the glory of God (Ezekiel 1) who has this wonderful exalted position because he has been raised from the dead (Isaiah 53)
and I saw ... white horse
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Zech 1:8, 6:3 | |
horse that was red
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Zech 1:8, 6:2 | |
a black horse
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Zech 6:2 | |
a pale horse
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Zech 1:8, 6:3 |
The cluster of quotations from Zechariah focuses our attention on the horsemen of Zechariah. Consequently, if we understand the horsemen of Zechariah we will appreciate the significance of the horses in Revelation 6. Zechariah explains what each one is to do.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
5:13-14 So the elders again state their adoration of the risen Jesus as we saw in Chapter 4.
6:10 Do we regularly echo this cry? Are we longing for the return of Christ - or is life too comfortable and are there so many things we want to do that the coming of Christ is of secondary importance to us?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
5:13 "every creature" All creation, angelic, immortal, and mortal, both Jew and Gentile, will raise their voices in praise to the Lamb. First the Redeemed (V.9-10), then the angelic host (V.11), finally all creation (V.13).
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
5:1 The book written within and on the backside is like the book which Ezekiel saw (Eze 2:10). His book was full of lamentations and woe.
6:6 "a measure ... penny" quotes 2Kin 7:1 which is speaking of the deliverance of Samaria so we can conclude that the third seal has as its terminus some sort of deliverance.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
1:1; 5:5 Only the Lord Jesus is able to tell His followers what must shortly come to pass. The seals represent periods of history subsequent to AD 90. The first six seals took place in the first few centuries. One traditional Christadelphian analysis gives the following breakdown:
First seal: 96-183 AD
Second seal: 183-211 AD
Third seal: 212-235 AD
Fourth seal: 235-303 AD
Fifth seal: 303-311 AD
Sixth seal: 312-324 AD
The seventh seal is protracted in length as it unfolds into trumpets (incorporating woes) and vials. We are clearly at that point of history which is considered the end times. Jesus could come at any time and call us to judgement.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
5:4 Are we equally despondent when we do not understand the time when Zion will be a joy and a praise in the earth. John was one who mourned who will be comforted – Matt 5:4
6:1,3,5,7 The repeated call to John to ‘come and see’ demonstrates that the father and His son want us to know about His plans with the earth.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
5:8 The harp is a symbol of gladness and rejoicing. The use of the harp as a symbol both here and in Rev 14:2 identifies the "four living ones " and the "four and twenty elders " with the 144.000 rejoicing saints in glory.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to John
5:5 The ‘lion of the tribe of Judah’ shows that Jesus is the fulfilment of the blessings of Jacob – Gen 49:9
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
5:2 The question ‘who is worthy ...’ shows that the authority that Jesus now has was not automatically conferred on him. It was given by his Father because of his faithfulness to His commandments. The same is true for us. Our ‘overcoming’ is seen in a faithfulness to living the commandments.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
Jesus Christ is described as the Lion of the tribe of Judah, and also the Lamb as it had been slain (Rev 5:5,6). There are of-course many symbols to represent Jesus, and these two are very appropriate titles. Jesus was powerful as a lion, yet meek as a lamb. It is Jesus who was destined to be the lion, the King. But it was also Jesus who was born into this world, and was submitted to sinful men as a docile lamb, dumb before its shearers (Isa 53:7).
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to David
5:5,6 The prophecy that was closed and sealed in Daniel’s time could now be opened by Jesus (Dan 12:4). Jesus is first described as a lion (king of beasts). This appellation shows that since His resurrection, Jesus has become all-powerful and awaits His return to earth to rule (1Cor 15:27). However, He is also shown as a lamb that had been killed. This reflects the death of Jesus, which also represents the death of the flesh.
5:7 Jesus took the book (scroll) out of the hand of Yahweh, His Father. Here we have a manifestation of the Deity, Jesus and His Father. This manifestation will eventually be extended to all immortalised saints (1Cor 15:28).
5:10 The phrase kings and priests (KJV) is more correctly translated as: a kingdom and priests (ESV). In the Kingdom, there will be only one king, Jesus.
Chapter six reveals the first four seals:
First seal: 96-183 AD: The first horse is white which signifies purity and peace. Here, it represents a time of peace in the Roman Empire. Those following Jesus, however, were never at peace, even during this time (2Tim 3:12).
Second seal: 183-211 AD: The second horse was red, the symbol of bloodshed which occurred as Roman emperors set about murdering one another.
Third seal: 212-235 AD: The third horse was black. This is descriptive of famine causing widespread death. This was also a time of many assassinations of the Roman elite.
Fourth seal: 235-303 AD: The fourth horse was pale. This referred to a sickly green colour which symbolized approaching death. Represented, here, is a time of extensive violence and killing.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
6:14 The departing of ‘the heavens’ as ‘a scroll’ quotes Isa 34:4 adding to the quotation from Isa 34:4 about the fig tree casting her figs to build up a comprehensive picture of judgement.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
5:3 The uniqueness of Jesus is forced upon us with the realisation that there was no one at all who had the authority to open the seals. God has given all authority to Jesus. He is the one who has the authority to open the seals.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
"...I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God... and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"
We know these tribulation saints are sleeping in their grave, knowing nothing, and cannot speak (Ecc 9:5); yet their cry lives on till God intervenes. We read of a similar account when Cain slew Abel, and the LORD said to him, "... the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground" (Gen 4:10).
Since time immemorial, God's people from every age have asked this question, "How long?" David: "How long wilt thou forget me, O Lord? Forever?" - Psa 13:1; Moses: "Return, O LORD, how long?" - Psa 90:13; Ethan the Ezrahite: "How long, LORD" Wilt thou hide thyself forever?" - Psa 89:46; Isaiah: "Then said I, Lord, how long?" - Isa 6:11; Habakkuk: "O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear?" - Hab 1:2; Daniel: "... How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?" - Dan 12:6.
What about the present-day saints? Are we crying to God, "How long shall it be to the end of this age?"
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Valerie
6:17 In asking “who shall be able to stand?” our attention is directed to the question voiced – Mal 3:2 -by the prophet after the exile, whilst speaking of the coming of John Baptist and Jesus.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
6:15 In speaking of the kings of the earth hiding in the dens and rocks we are reminded of Josh 10:17 which speaks of a time when Israel were conquering the land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
5:3 That there was “no man” echoes the situation that God recognised – Isa 59:16 - which caused Him to provide His only son.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
6:10 “how long” “dost thou not judge ...” echoes Psa 79:5 where the Psalmist laments the down treading of Jerusalem. An appropriate call in the time of the seals in Revelation.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
Rev 6:2;Rev 19:11 - both passages speak of a white horse, are they the same horse? Who is the rider?
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Charles
Rev 6:11 - white robes.
Rev 7:9,14-17 - white robes and palms, robes made white in the blood of the lamb, no hunger, fed by the lamb, living fountains of waters, no tears, no need for sunlight (Rev 21:23;Rev 22:3-5).
Rev 19:7-9,11,14-16 - marriage of the lamb is come, white linen, fine linen is the righteousness of the saints, King of Kings on a white horse followed by others on white horses with white linen.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Charles
Rev 6:1-2 - Brother Charles raises an interesting question – about the white horse and the rider, “are they the same horse? Who is the rider?
Comparing the accounts we can see, the riders were different.
White Horse - Revelation 6 |
White Horse - Revelation 19 |
v.1 horse had a mounted rider. |
v.11 white horse had a mounted rider. |
v.2 he was conquering and continuing to conquer. |
v.11 rider named Faithful and True and makes war in righteous judgements. |
v.2 armed with a bow (but no arrows) |
v.12 Eyes a flame of fire. v.15 Armed with sword of his mouth. |
v.2 a crown was given to the rider. |
v.12 Rider had many crowns. His name is called the Word of God. (John 1:14). |
v.4 red horse interrupted the work, “to take peace from the earth”. |
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The horses represent phases of the Roman world. The white horse rider was conquering without use of a weapon. Faithful brethren and sisters of the 1st Century Ecclesias were the witnesses and preachers in the Roman world. (2Cor 10:3-4. |
Christ will return to bring judgements on the Roman world. Christ will ride the (Roman) horse. |
Comparing Rev. 6:1-2 with Rev.19:11-16 suggests that the white horse is a symbol of the same Roman world.
The rider in Rev.6 represents the preachers of the Gospel of peace. However, in Rev 19:11-16, the leading rider
on the white horse is the Lord Jesus Christ followed by his army each on a white horse. They are the redeemed resurrected saints “clothed in fine linen, white and clean.” (Rev 19:14).
Peter Moore [Erith, UK] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
5:9 The ‘new song’ echoes Psa 149:1 which Psalm speaks of the rejoicing when God arises to judge the earth Psa 149:7
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
"And hast made us unto our God kings and priests"
Have you ever wondered why God will make us "kings and priests" Rev 5:10 in the kingdom age to come? Wordsworth's commentary remarks that these honours conferred upon the redeemed imply duties as well as privileges, and perhaps this may give us a clue. The Kings office stood for judgment and the priest's office stood for mercy. These two characteristics of mercy and truth is what the immortal saints will embody in the future age to come.
Christ as the "captain of our salvation” Heb 2:11 and is spoken about in Psa 85:10 where it records "Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other." We in this mortal life always err on one side or another, either too lovey-dovey without the back bone of truth to offset the love or too judgemental. Isn't it wonderful that in the age to come these 2 characteristics will be blended together in us and then we may truly stand in the "image and likeness" of the great creator.
Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
5:10 The priesthood where a king was a priest is the priesthood after the order of Melchisedec. We see from Gen 14:18 that Melchisedec was a king / priest and this forms the basis for Jesus’ priesthood.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
6:17 The “great day of His wrath” is not a one off event. It happened when Israel were taken into captivity by the Babylonians. But this final day will supersede all others in magnitude Then the kingdom will be ushered in.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
6:1,3,5,7 John is invited to see what God is going to do. The things that God was going to do were His “works” and do we are reminded of Psa 66:5 where the Psalmist speaks of God’s involvement in the things of this world.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
6:1,3,5,7 the invitation “come and see” provides substance to the promise – 1:1 that John was going to be shown things that were going to happen in the future to his day.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
A WARNING TIMELY IN THESE LAST TIMES - THE PERIOD OF THE FIRST SEAL, A.D. 96 to A.D. 180
“IN the days of the first seal, the New Man of the Spirit was healthy, vigorous, and formidable to the Old Man of the Flesh, who ruled in the Pagan Church and State, as he does now in all the Churches and States of what he ignorantly calls ‘Christendom.’ The conflict between the two was very earnest and bloody. Many lives or souls were ruthlessly precipitated under the altar, while many of the Old Serpent-Man’s adherents fell from their allegiance, and became incorporated into the New Man. But in this sanguinary strife all the desertions were not from the party of the Serpent; many relaxed their hold upon the Lamb, fell into the ranks of the enemy, and became either implacable adversaries, or perverters of the truth, who have pretended to have found a common ground, on which Jew, philosopher, vulgar Pagan and Christian might meet in fellowship of the same essential opinions. Sects formed of the factions who had become impatient of the restraints of the truth, had greatly multiplied. The seed sown in the first century by the seducers, evil men, and false prophets, of whom we read so much in the New Testament, was now in vigorous growth; multiplies, varied, complicated, and refined by endless subtleties and fancies, in which the poverty of taste and genius discovered itself abundantly.” (Emphasis added)
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol. I
A Pagan Greek Philosopher of the second century, Celsus, and opponent of the Word, observed during this period that Christians were now so split into sects that the name Christian, only remained to them in common. What a lesson!
All the Seal dates given are from Brother John Thomas
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
THE PERIOD OF THE SECOND SEAL – A.D. 183 to A.D. 212
“IN the beginning of the third century, at which we have arrived, we find an unhappy mixture of metaphysical self-righteousness and superstition, now amply developed in ‘the names and denominations’ of blasphemy, overshadowing and darkening the world, and greatly clouding and depraving the pure light of the gospel. This perverting the gospel of Christ, and preaching another gospel than Paul’s, had been progressing from his time; but recently it had been greatly promoted by Ammonius, Pantoenus, Clement, and Origen, of the Divinity School at Alexandria, the capital of Egypt; who were all eminent in the unhallowed work of making Christianity palatable to heathen philosophers and admirers of the world’s wisdom—a work that could only be successful by corrupting it. Would the Deity look with complacency upon this? Though they had renounced the gods of Greece and Rome, and contended against their existence and worship, as protestants now protest against the saints of the Romish calendar, and the worshipful honour paid to them, still this was only the negation of a particular superstition. The denial of this was not affirming ‘the truth as it is in Jesus.’ Hence, Alexandrian divinity was no more the doctrine of Christ, by which alone men can be saved, than modern protestanism. It was a protest against vulgar paganism, without being also an earnest contest for the faith. It was protestantism, only with a different form of superstition, for its adversary. Did the Deity esteem the overthrow of heathenism more highly than holding fast His name and affirming His faith? We know He did not; for He threatened this class of professors that He would ‘fight with them by the sword of His mouth,’ as He now fights against both papists and protestants by setting them to ‘slay one another’ for their blasphemies and abominations. Zeal against an error or superstition does not sanctify the ignorance of unbelief of the zealots.”
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol. II
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
THE PERIOD OF THE THIRD SEAL—A.D. 212 to A.D. 235
“THE third Living One is the symbol of the Deity in its Pergamo-Thyatiran declension. Its face was that of a man, and ‘full of eyes before and behind.’ The reader will remember, that in the Apocalypse these four living ones are related to two states—the state of suffering in the flesh; and the state of glory in the resurrection; and that they are only introduced in the prophetic drama where there is direct and potential ministration and manifestation of Spirit.
There was no persecution of the Christadelphians, nor of philosophical Christians under the Balance Holders of this seal—to wit, Caracalla, Macrinus, Elagabalus, and Alexander Severus. The calamities they experienced befell them in common with the general public. Though primitive Christianity was losing ground, the Archer with his bow was still ‘conquering’ the popular superstition. An Alexander Severus, on the throne of the world, was evidence that philosophical Christianity, the metaphysics of the Alexandrian School of ‘Divinity,’ was supplanting the grosser superstition of the heathen. Though Christianity in the purity of its faith and practice, was succumbing to the rising and now rapidly maturing apostasy, there were many Christadelphians or Brethren of Christ, who still contended earnestly for the Faith, as ‘the living ones’ of the third Cherub of the seal. These were the salt which preserved the whole professing community from putrefaction.
In opening the third seal, the Lamb retributively gave them blood to drink; and made the survivors, black with lamentation and distress; so fearful a thing is it to tamper with the Truth, and to persecute its friends. Sooner or later, terrible vengeance overtakes the guilty.”
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol II
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
THE PERIOD OF THE FOURTH SEAL—A.D. 235 to A.D. 303
IT (the Roman Empire) had suffered severely under the second and third seals; but what were these in comparison of the death-strokes by sword, famine, pestilence, and beasts, speedily and of long continuance, to fall upon the Pagan Horse! A deadly paleness and livor would come over it—a hue emblematic of approaching dissolution, as most expressively represented by the cloros of the fourth seal.
In the first fifty years of the period of this seal, there were thirty-nine claiming to be emperors, and all of them died by violence. One of them fell by pestilence, and the form of the death of another is uncertain; but with these two exceptions, nearly all died by assassination, and two or three by the sword in battle.
As the rider of this pale horse symbolized a class of ruling agents, sold to the work of death, and in the midst of it to a violent death for themselves; so, ‘Hades following with him’ is representative of another class of destroying agencies which co-operate in the destruction of the horse-people, so as to bring their body politic to the verge of dissolution, as indicated by the color of the hieroglyphic.
The time had come, therefore, after the death of Alexander Severus, to begin the work of exhausting the seat of the pagan power of its vitality, that it might be paralyzed in all its members, and be prepared for the consummating events of the sixth seal, in the development of which it should be dethroned, or ‘cast out of the heaven.’ The authority was therefore given to Death and Hades to extend their operations into the ‘fourth of the earth,’ and to kill there with all the agencies at work in the other three fourths of the dominion.
Let the empire, then, be represented by a horse, with what color should we paint him; and what kind of a rider should we place upon him; and by what name should he be called; in order to represent on canvas the state of the dominion as history reveals it? The only answer is, that no hieroglyphic would be so appropriate as that given to John a hundred and fifty years before in the imagery of the fourth seal.”
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol II
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
THE PERIOD OF THE FIFTH SEAL—A.D. 303 to A.D. 311
“It is remarkable that neither of ‘the Four Living Ones full of eyes’ is introduced into the imagery of the fifth and sixth seals. In the first four seals they occupy a conspicuous place; but in the fifth and sixth they are not found. This peculiarity is certainly not accidental. The omission must be significative of something real in the situation of affairs pertaining to those engaged in ‘conquering’ that which hindered the manifestation of the Man of Sin-power. We know, that the Four Living Ones are symbolical of the Heavenly Encampment, the imperium in imperio, represented by the four horses under divers colors. The heavenly camp was the habitation of the Deity by his Spirit; not that his spirit was in all the individuals of the encampment; but His Imperial Pavilion was in their midst, as the tent of the commanding general was in the midst of the Roman military camp.
But, why is this Heavenly Camp not symbolized in the fifth seal? First, I conceive, because its work was done at the expiration of the fourth seal; secondly, because its unity had been destroyed under that seal; and thirdly, because in default of that unity, the Deity no longer resided in it by his Spirit.
Here then were two leading and rival divisions in antipagan society, both claiming the Christian name, with the addition of Catholic and Puritan, as the names distinguishing their several hosts in the long warfare waged between them. These antagonist camps were in active conflict during the fifth seal… the original organization of the camp no longer obtained? The time was rapidly advancing after the close of the fourth seal, when the Spirit would fulfil his threat of spuing them out of his mouth; and of organizing a new advocacy of the truth—a protest, not so much against paganism as against Laodiceanism.”
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol II
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
THE PERIOD OF THE SIXTH SEAL
“THE remarkable symbolization of this seal represents a universe convulsed by earthquake, blood shedding, and tempest, indicative of the wrath of the Deity in a great day of wrath upon the panic-stricken enemies of the Lamb. It does not represent the Universe; because symbols do not represent themselves.
Neither John nor Peter represented or taught the dissolving of the physical universe, and the ‘burning up of the earth.’ ‘The earth is Yahweh’s,’ for he made it; it is temporarily ‘given into the hand of the wicked,’ till the King shall come to possess it with his Saints to the uttermost parts thereof. ‘He hath established it forever.’ No interpretation of Scripture that would falsify these statements can be true. All theories of the kind must therefore be rejected as mere idle tales in which only the children of the Apostasy can take delight.
The sixth seal was opened A.D. 311-312, and closed A.D. 324, a period of twelve years. It opened with the Roman Empire subject to four emperors, Licinius, Maximin, Maxentius and Constantine; and paganism the religion of the state; it closed with the battle of Chrysolis or Scutari, as it is now called, the result of which was the reunion of the empire under Constantine as the sole emperor; and the establishment of the Catholic Apostasy as the Lunar Bride of the Roman Sun.
The sixth seal is a prophetic summary of what is more particularly related in the twelfth chapter, concerning the Woman, her man child, the Dragon, and the war in heaven between the symbolic Michael and his angels on the one side; and the great red Dragon and his angels, on the other.”
Brother Dr. John Thomas, Eureka, Vol II
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
5:7 The one sitting on the throne is God. In giving the “lamb” – the risen Jesus – the book Jesus now has a greater understanding about future events than he had during his mortal lifer. The wonderful thing is that he is willing to share some of those details with his followers.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
Brian Armour [Maryborough-Hervey Bay Australia] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Brian
5:2 doubtless all angels are “strong” do why are we told here – the only time that the word “strong” is used to speak of an angel – that the angel was “strong”? It seems the emphasis is to make the point that the things contained in the book were precious enough for many to want to see. Therefore it was protected by a “strong” angel.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
6:1 A noise like thunder is regularly in scripture associated with Yahweh speaking. We meet it at Sinai when the Law of Moses was given and we meet it again near to the time of Jesus’ death and resurrection.
It is difficult to imagine such a noise and yet not see the cause of the noise except in the sound of thunder. It seems fitting that the noise like thunder is here at what is the beginning of the description of judgments that are to come on the earth.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
“This is not a forecast, but what’s already in play. The Horsemen of the Apocalypse are galloping ahead, and we can only look towards God.” Dimitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia (Underline mine).
Both Ezekiel and Zechariah refer to varying beasts executing their Divine roles. Ezekiel refers to them as executing the “sword, famine, wild beasts, and plague” (Eze 14:21; Eze 5:17). Zechariah refers to them as “the ones whom the Lord has sent to patrol the earth” (Zech 1:8-10).
Revelation summons four beasts that ride the white, red, black, and green horses. The white horse symbolizes conquest. The red horse symbolizes war. The black horse symbolizes famine and food rationing. The green [pale] horse symbolizes death. The Beast Government and its alliances are given power to kill, to create famine, to bring about plagues and death – all these events are converging in this generation!
While the United States and all the NATO partners view present-day maneuverings as a political repositioning to global dominance,” Russia sees it differently! The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are in play, as present-day events clearly reveal.
We live in perilous times, as prophesied (2Tim 3:1-7). Four RS-28 Sarmat Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, known as Satan II, the world’s largest nuclear-tipped missiles, are all it takes to completely destroy the United States – East Coast to West Coast! When push comes to shove, Russia will not hesitate to use them. Once this starts, it is “game over” for the entire world. Still, we know that as with the previous Ages, a “remnant shall be brought forth” (Eze 14:22,23; cf. Matt 24:22).
These events have been prophesied and God is in total control; He rules in the Kingdom of Men, though the elites claim, otherwise. He uses the NWO elites like He used all other past rulers to bring about the fulfillment of His prophecies. So, none of this should surprise us. These things must come to pass, but if we remain obedient and faithful to God, a glorious future awaits us.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Valerie
5:12 the “lamb” is the same as the “lion” of :5. There is no inconsistency or error here. The “lion” is also the “lamb”. Different elements of Jesus are [resented. The “lamb” feature is of one willing to be led – as Jesus was by his Father’s instruction.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
5:6-9 The “lion” of verse :6has now become the “lamb”. But it is not any lamb. This one had been killed but was clearly alive as it took the book - :7. The way that the “lamb” is described requires that it must be the risen Jesus. The sacrificial lamb who will return as a lion. All symbols drawn from the Old Testament.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
THE FOCUS OF PRAISE
Picture the scene. In the centre of the throne stands the Lamb. In a small circle around him are the four living creatures. The twenty-four elders make another circle around the lamb and the four living creatures. Then as we move outwards from the centre, thousands upon thousands and ten thousand times ten thousand angels circle the throne, the elders and the living creatures. And lastly, every creature in heaven and earth and on the sea and all that is in them turn to face the Lamb.
The Lamb that all creation is focused on is the only one who is worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals and to look inside. The Lamb is the saviour of the world. In his death and by his blood he purchased men for God and made them to be a kingdom of priests to be a kingdom of priests to serve our God. Because he is worthy, one by one, each of these groups encircling the throne give him praise until the whole world is resounding with his praise.
Where are we in this picture? Are we turned so that our attention is focused on Jesus? Are we praising him? Are we some of those leading praise to the Lamb? One day our praise will flow to him. Let’s make it today.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Robert
5:9 Notice how the angel comfort John. Not just with simple comforting words. John is directed to think about Gen 49:9 which speaks of Judah’s lion. When we are distressed do we look to scripture for comfort?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2025 Reply to Peter