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Reading 1 - 2Chronicles  5 and 6
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5:10 tells us that the other contents of the ark - the pot of manna and Aaron's rod that budded were already lost in the time of Solomon. As far as I am aware, God does not even tell us where or when they disappeared, showing the importance of these items was over, but the law lasted for ever, as it was to be fulfilled in Jesus.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

5:13 The concept of a house being filled is seen in a number of places in Scripture. These passages:- 1 Kings 8:10,11 2 Chronicles 5:13,14 7:1,2 Ezekiel 10:3,4 speak of the glory of God in Solomon's temple Haggai 2:7 Speaks of the future filling of Ezekiel's temple. And Ezekiel describes the glory of the temple that is to be built in the age to come. Ezekiel 43:5 44:4
So when the New Testament introduces the idea:- John 12:3 in the context of the burial of Jesus the link between Jesus' death and the glory of God in the house can be seen.
After the resurrection the 'house' is the ecclesia:- 2 Corinthians 6:16 So it is fitting that the holy spirit filled those in the 'house' on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:2

6:1 'thick darkness' is a description of the manifestation of Yahweh at different times. Exodus 10:22 20:21 Deuteronomy 4:11 5:22 1 Kings 8:12 2 Chronicles 6:1 So when it is used to speak of the day of the LORD Joel 2:2 Zephaniah 1:15 We see the day of the LORD is a day of His glory being manifest. It is not just mindless punishment. Interestingly His glory is seen in the punishment of Judah. That is, He is justified by His actions.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

6:1,2 - The Bible in Basic English renders these verses thus:

1 Then Solomon said, O Lord, to the sun you have given the heaven for a living-place, but your living-place was not seen by men, 2 So I have made for you a living-place, a house in which you may be for ever present.

I find this translation very helpful. Whichever translation you use, we are reminded of that great gulf that existed between God and man before the atonement. Here we see a faithful but limited attempt to heal this breach, to which God responds favourably. These two verses show how Solomon had a full understanding of the position of man before God at that time.


Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

5:3-5 Solomon brought the ark into the temple at the time of the feast of Tabernacles. Notice also (v5) that the tabernacle was brought up also. From the time when David brought the ark to Zion until now the tabernacle was at Gibeon (1 Chronicles 16:39). In ft this is the first time the ark and the tabernacle have been together since the ark was taken by the philistines in the days of Eli.

6:12,13 where Solomon spread forth his hands is a way of prying seen in Israel (Psalm 28:2 63:4 134:2 141:2 1Timothy 2:8)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

5:11 That the priests did not serve by course is an indication that the details of all the David had worked out were implemented in stages.

6:18 The realisation that Solomon had that the earth cannot contain man contrasts powerfully with those who worshipped idols. They thought their God was small enough to copy with an image - in fact their god was like unto them. Our God is not. He is all powerful - and we are made in his image and likeness (Genesis 1:26) What a wonderful privilege!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

 

6:20,21,26,34,38 Solomon petitioned Yahweh to accept any prayer that was directed towards Jerusalem and the temple. Daniel shows this practice when he prayed (Dan 6:10).

That living-place, the temple, where God dwelled with man really reflects the Lord Jesus. All Solomon's pleas for forgiveness in a repentant turning towards the temple equally apply to humankind today if they would turn to the Lord Jesus. He has bridged the gap between God and humankind (1Tim 2:51Tim 2:5).  He is the spiritual temple where God dwells (Col 2:9). He is the true atonement (Rom 5:11).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Michael
5:10 (suggested meaning)
Since Aaron's rod that budded is not present in the ark(budding meaning resurrection), it typifies that in the Kingdom age, resurrection will have already taken place.
The absence of the manna is representative of the removal of the reproach of Egypt(see Josh 5:9)
Israel ate the manna until they reached their "kingdom", symbolic of "the bread of life" we partake of now.

Matt Drywood [Hamilton Ewen Rd (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Matt

5:9 In drawing out the staves of the ark Solomon was showing that the ark was now in it's final resting place. Exo 25:15 which records the instructions for the manufacture of the ark states that the staves are not to be removed. God walked with Israel in their journeys (2Sam 7:6) but now the 'place' (Deut 12:11) had been established. It as now a time for no more wandering.

6:2 In saying  that the temple was 'a place for thy dwelling' Solomon is confirming the reason for the removal of the staves from the ark  (2Chron 5:9)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
6:38 These words gave rise to the favorite usage of the ancient as well as modern Jews, of turning in prayer toward Jerusalem, where ever in the world they may be, and of directing their faces toward the temple when in Jerusalem itself or in any part of the holy land. (1Kin 8:44)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
The ark of the testimony was put in its place, and the music sounded in perfect harmony ("to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the Lord", 2Chron 5:13), God's glory filled the new Temple. The Lord accepted Solomon's work.  This all took place, probably, at the Feast of Tabernacles (2Chron 5:3). How appropriate therefore, that God's House should be built on firm foundations, and completed to the very best ability of the nation, at a time when Israel; was remembering its 40 years in tents.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
6:22 In cases where the testimony of witnesses could not be obtained and there was no way of settling a difference or dispute between two people but by accepting the oath of the accused, the practice had gradually crept in and had acquired the force of consuetudinary law, for the party to be brought before the alter, where his oath was taken with all due feeling, together with the calling down of a curse to fall upon himself if his disavowal should be found untrue. We would suggest there is an allusion to such practice in this passage.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

5:3  The feast in the seventh month was Tabernacles – most fitting for the time when God’s glory tabernacled with man in the temple.

6:5  Solomon quotes the words that God spoke to David his father –1Chron 17:5 – thus demonstrating, as can be seen by many other quotations of either David’s words or God’s words to David that Solomon is to be seen as the fulfilment of the promise to David. Of course this is the immediate fulfilment, the greater fulfilment is to be seen in Jesus.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
6:41 arise, O Lord God into thy resting place. .These words are not found in the record of this prayer in 1 KINGS 8, but they do appear in Psa 132:8, which is thought by many to be written by Solomon in reference to this occasion.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

6:17 In saying ‘let thy word be verified’ Solomon is quoting David – 2Sam 6:18 – which shows that Solomon saw himself as continuing the work of David with respect to the promises.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
5:2-3 The feast of the dedication of the temple was on the eighth day of this seventh month. This account is also recorded in 1Kin 8:1-10
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

5:13 ‘as one’ signifies that the priesthood was united in its service to God. Oh that we could be so united!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

6:9 Solomon was the son of David who built the physical temple.  Jesus is the son of David who built the spiritual temple.  The brothers and sisters of Jesus constitute His body, and are, therefore, part of that temple (1Cor 3:16).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

6:2 In speaking of the place where the temple was and the ark placed as ‘dwelling’ it contrasts with what God said to David –2Sam 7:6


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

5:3 The seventh month is called Ethanim (1Kin 8:2). Ethanim is a Phoenician name signifying living waters which arrive every year.

After the Babylonian exile, Ethanim was changed to Tishri which corresponds to Sept/Oct. Besides representing the seventh month of the sacred year, it also represents the first month of the civil year. Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, occurs at this time.

6:6 Jerusalem has been chosen by Yahweh. It is the capital of Israel, the Promised Land. It is the future capital of the world from where Jesus will rule (Mic 4:2).

Despite the claims on Jerusalem by Moslems and Christians, and the political wrangling that occurs, Jerusalem belongs to the Jews, and will always be jealously guarded by Yahweh, Israel’s God (Isa 62:6,7).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

5:1 We learn here that not only had David dedicated silver and gold to the work of the temple -1Chron 18:10-11– but he also made items as well.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

2Chron 5:5 - "congregation" [Heb. "mo'ed" (4150) means "appointed place, appointed time, appointed meeting, appointment, an assembly, the congregation"]; 2Chron 5:6 - "congregation" [Heb. "edah" (5712) means "congregation, gathering, fixture, a stated assemblage, a concourse, multitude"]; 2Chron 6:3 - "congregation...congregation" [Heb. "qahal" (6951) means "assemblage, assembly, company, congregation, multitude, convocation"].

2Chron 6:26-27 - spiritual drought yielding natural drought and prayer yielding life sustaining rain (1Kin 17:1;18:45).

2Chron 6:32-33 - mercy to Gentiles (2Kin 5:13-17).

2Chron 6:36-39 - going into captivity as a result of sin and release from captivity as a result of repentance (2Chron 36:15-23;Ezra 2:1).


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles
Reading 2 - Ezekiel 41
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We are told so much detail about the measurements of this temple that they must be of more significance than just to help us to reconstruct or visualise it. Those who have done a great deal of study into the significance of different numbers in scripture could, I am sure, enlighten us on this subject.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
41:18 The mention of Cherubims and palm trees echoes Solomon's temple 1 Kings 6:23, 29, 32, 35, 7:36. Further the only other place in Scripture where Cherubim and trees are found together is Genesis 3:24. So we conclude that Solomon's and Ezekiel's temple are drawing on this imagery from Genesis. The Cherubim and trees are to remind the worshippers that the only way to God is through the method of worship that he has ordained. If this is followed access to the tree of life will be open see Ezekiel 47:12.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.25,26 - The word used for planks in each of these verses is different. In verse 25 it is 06086 ates which is a common word normally translated 'tree', where in v. 26 the rare word 05646 obe is used - the same as the 'weaver's beam' of the Samson story. This is a prepared beam, as opposed to a natural one.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Despite all the details of the temple that Ezekiel saw it is to possible to either draw an exact drawing or make an exact model of the temple. There are vital details and measurements missing. The same is true of both the tabernacle and Solomon's temple. From this we conclude that the details are not given for us to construct models - though there is benefit in making models to help us to understand the general size and shape of these structures. The lesson is that the language of the description should be carefully reviews to enable us to draw valid Scriptural lessons from the description.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Whilst Ezekiel clearly saw a large building the vision draws on the first tabernacle that Israel made in the wilderness. 41:1 'tabernacle' is the word translated 'tabernacle' In Exodus 26:22 etc.: and is the word for 'tent'.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
41:18,20,25  The combination of Cherubim and tree echoes the situation in the garden of Eden (Gen 3:24) where a Cherubim protected the way to the tree of life.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.18-19 As has been said in other comments; the cherubins and palm trees echo Solomoms temple. (1Kin 6:29) But, does this suggest both Jew and Gentile in the House of the Lord? "a house of prayer for all nations" 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

Vs.18-20 The display of cherubim, palm trees, and lions are found in both the temple of Solomon (1Kin 7:36) and in Ezekiel's temple. 

Cherubim represent the righteousness of Yahweh; lions are representative of Christ who is righteous; palm trees represent the righteousness of true believers (Psa 92:12,13).  

Unlike Solomon's temple, Ezekiel's adds the representation of man (the face of man).  Could the inclusion of man's image in Ezekiel's temple signify the presence of the redeemed (the immortalized saints) which were not present in Solomon's time?


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

Why did God give this very detailed vision of the temple to Ezekiel? The suggestion which makes sense to me is that this temple will be built in Jerusalem for the millennium reign of Christ, and will be used for the world to come and worship King Jesus. It’s interesting to note the series of plans God has brought into the world for worship:  a) Adam to Abraham – God was with the righteous; b) Abraham to Moses – God called the Jews, and was the centre of their lives; c) Moses to Jesus – the Law of Moses was operative, so the tabernacle and then the temple were the places where God met with His people; d) the age of Christianity, where God dwells in His people (see 1Cor 3:16,17); e) the millennial reign of Christ on earth, probably with Ezekiel’s temple being the centre of world government; and f) after the 1000 years, when God is all in all.

 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

41:1 The word translated ‘tabernacle’ <0168> is in fact the word that is elsewhere translated ‘tent’ and used in the description of the tabernacle in the wilderness – Exo 39:33 for example showing how what Ezekiel saw, even though a temple has its roots in the tabernacle that Israel built in the wilderness.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

41:6 Ezekiel is not an architect, he is a prophet of God and rather than describing a building spiritual principles are being highlighted. The detail here is that each room above the lower is smaller than the one below because the floor of the room above rests on the walls of the room below. The floor joists do not penetrate the walls of the temple.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.7 There appears to be a winding staircase running through the three stories.  The staircase widens as it passes upwards through the inner wall.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

The doors in 23-24 are folding doors, hinged in the middle, made up of two doors into one door. Would this be to save space when opening them, or is there some deeper meaning?

 


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

41:4 In describing the ‘most Holy Place’ as 20 by 20 cubits we see a match with Solomon’s most holy place – 2Chron 3:8


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - John  7
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v.15 is interesting, and since Jesus makes no attempt to deny it, we are left to conclude that Jesus had had no formal education in reading and writing, and yet he is clearly able to do both. Was this by his own power, or that of God?
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
7:6 On a number of occasions in John it is said of Jesus that 'his hour is not yet come' John 2:4 7:6,30 8:20 11:30 This demonstrates that the things which happened to Jesus were not chance happenings. Rather his God was in control of things even thought at times it looked as if the rulers of the Jews had the upper hand. In fact all of these things were done at God's hand Acts 2:23
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
7:41-42 The Jews certainly had a correct understanding of Micah 5. They saw Bethlehem as the town from which messiah would come. However they had only one interpretation and so could not take account of the birth of Jesus whose mother and step father came from Bethlehem because he was not born there. Their blindness to other options should serve as a powerful warning to us when we consider the 'rightness' of our interpretations of prophecy
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
As we saw in Chapter 5 here (:16) Jesus shows that he is not speaking his own words. He claims to be speaking the words of his heavenly Father.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
7:43 The division among the people is exactly what one would expect from the preaching of Jesus. It was to set families against each other (Matt 10:35)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.50 This is the second time that we read of Nicodemus. As we look at each one of the three times we hear of Nicodemus we see a steady progress of his spiritual developement.
Came to Christ at night. (it would have been dark and could not be seen by the masses.)
Is quietly defending Christ
Has now developed to publicly step forward to declare that he is a follower of Christ, by bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes for the burial of Christ.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

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Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

 

Vs.47-49 Anyone who thought that Jesus was the Christ was quickly persuaded otherwise by the religious leaders of the day. 

A similar pattern will present itself when Jesus returns to earth. When He proclaims Himself from Jerusalem, the religious leaders of that day will claim that He is the Antichrist. 

The seeds have been sown already by the leaders of the apostasy who are expecting a Jew to (falsely) proclaim His kingship from Jerusalem.  And so when he does appear, it shall be a self-fulfilling prophecy for them.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

7:19  In reminding the people that Moses had given them the law that they were breaking Jesus was showing that in reality they had no respeoct for Moses even though they appealed to his teaching. Respect for Moses would be seen in observing the law of Moses.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

7:23 Jesus is not finding fault with the leaders who on the one hand observed the Sabbath and yet circumcised a child on the sabbath if it was the eight day since the boy was born. He is highlighting that the law is not a set of rules which are independent and inviolate. The law of the sabbath was indeed an inviolate rule. Likewise that a man child should be circumcised on the eight day was also inviolate. The resolution was to be found in recognizing that the laws had to be integrated into a complete whole and so when an apparent conflict appeared one had to appeal to matters of principle to work out how to deal with the conflict. So it is in the Christian gospel. Principles have to be worked together and at times decisions made which seem to violate one teaching because another teaching takes priority.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

7:7 The world could not hate his brethren because the world loves its own – but it truly does hate those who are ‘other worldly’. We should, therefore, not be at all surprised when we do not fit in to the way n which our neighbours live. The only way in which we can fit in is by being like them. Beware!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.53 and 8:1-11 are omitted in some manuscripts. Nevertheless, these verses might have been included in modern versions. However, you might see them surrounded by brackets, to suggest that there is some uncertainty about them.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

7:1 We saw – 6:66 – that many of his disciples ‘walked no more with him’ but this did not stop Jesus continuing to ‘walk’. Likewise we should not be discouraged if fellow disciples fall away. We must continue in our walk.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
John 7:42 First Principles>Sure mercies of David>King
Jesus, son of David is also the Son of God. For more about the King, go to 2Sam 7:12-16

Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

 

V.1 Jewry (KJV) is translated Judea (ESV).

V.3 Brethren (KJV) means the other offspring of Mary and Joseph. The disciples were those believers who Jesus had convinced over two years previous (John 2:23).

V.5 After Jesus’ resurrection, His brethren did believe in Him.

V.8 Jesus did not categorically say that he would not go to the feast, but only that he would not go at that time: I go not up yet unto this feast (KJV). I think modern versions make an error when they say: I am not going up to this feast (ESV). This makes Jesus’ later decision to go seem like He told a lie.

V.24 We are asked to employ the same right judgment (e.g. James 2:2-4).

V.27 The Jews believed that the Messiah would mysteriously appear. But, Jesus had been around for over thirty years. His family was known; His city (Nazareth) was known; His occupation was known. All this knowledge about Jesus did not fit any mystery.

V.28 Jesus addressed the Jews’ misunderstanding about the mystery of the Messiah.

V.31 There were those Jews who believed because of Jesus’ works (See John 14:11).

V.33 Yahweh had indeed sent Jesus on a mission, but He did not send Jesus from heaven as Trinitarians suppose. Jesus had not yet been to heaven. That would occur after His resurrection (v.34).

Vs.40-42 Many people thought Jesus to be a prophet but some doubted that he was the Messiah. Their error was in not connecting the two roles.

V.53 Further provoked by Nicodemus' question, the Pharisees retorted defensively: Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet (KJV). This means, perhaps, no major prophet.

The Pharisees might have been aware that Jonah (and perhaps Nahum) was from Galilee, but the four pillars of Hebrew prophecy, Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were not.

Thus, from the Pharisee's viewpoint, the argument could have been: You are saying that this Jesus is a major prophet, but search the scriptures and see that no major prophet has ever come from Galilee. However, the Pharisees knew that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (v.42; Mic 5:2). But, they probably did not know that Jesus was born there.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

7:5  In saying that his brothers did not believe we are being reminded what we have already learnt – Mark 6:4


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter