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Reading 1 - 2Chronicles  20
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v.9 - This reflects the words of Solomon's prayer back in ch.6:28-30. It has always seemed to me that the building was an aspect of the Old Testament only, and that the building itself was superceded by Jesus, and that forgiveness and the way to God is now through him, but it seems this is too simplistic a view, because Ezekiel describes what appears to be (and certainly is accepted to be by all who I respect in these matters) a literal building - even involving animal sacrifices, portrayed as a feature of the kingdom. I find this idea confusing. Anyone any thoughts?
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
20:7 Here we learn that Abraham was the friend of God. This is from where James draws his language James 2:23 The prophet Isaiah 41:8 appeals to this feature spoken of in Jehoshaphat's reign as an exhortation to faithfulness.
If we wish to be God's friends we must do His will. John 15:4

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.17 - We do well to heed this for the 'battles' in our lives. Here is the ultimate reliance on God. Ignore the enemy - stand still - do nothing - let God do it. It is a direct quote from the words of Moses as the Children of Israel stood before the Red Sea and the Egyptians pursued - Exo.14:13-14. Stand still does not just denote the need no to be involved in the battle, but also the need not to run away. There is much for us to learn from this concept.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
20:20-22 Jehoshaphat shows his true allegiance here. Rather than seeking to build a formidable army he organises the people to sing praises. It seems that the fact that the people believed' and sang praises was sufficient for God to intervene on behalf of the king.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
20:32-33 It may seem odd to see that Jehoshaphat is described as a good king and yet he did not remove the high places. However it is clear that he did not have the full support of the people. So we see that God can take account of a man's environment when passing judgement about his commitment to Him.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
20:3  Whereas a man who trusted in his own strength would have marshalled his army Jehoshaphat 'proclaimed a fast' because he trusted his God.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

V.35 In V.32 we are told that Jehoshaphat was a good king. But, here in V.35-37 we see his one weakness. He was prepared to join those who feared not God. We see here an important lesson of doing that which God had warned the nation against.(Deut 7:4) Jehoshaphat would have seen both his son Jehoram and his grandson Ahaziah turn away from serving God. Ahaziah we are told followed the wicked ways of Ahab.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

Vs.14-17, 20 Yahweh gives His Spirit to specific people for specific purposes.  Here, we see that Jahaziel was given instructions for Judah in regard to the threat from the Moabites and the Ammonites.  Belief in the prophets of Yahweh is confirmed. 

The same pattern of Yahweh's giving His Spirit to particular people for particular purposes is a constant throughout the scriptures.  And so, to hear the prophet is to actually hear the words of God. 

The Bible was written by men who were inspired to do so by the Spirit of Yahweh.  Thus, when we read the Bible, we, like Judah, are actually listening to God's instructions.  There is no need for any extra-ordinary manifestation of the Spirit today (as some would suppose).  All the information we need for salvation has been given - it is up to us to read and believe (John 5:39; 2Tim 3:16; 2Pet 1:21).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
Judah had been told that "Ye shall not need to fight in this battle" (2Chron 20:17).  How true this came!  They simply 3 days collecting the spoil (2Chron 20:25), after Ammon and Moab had slain the men of Mount Seir.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
FROM PROBLEMS TO GLORY
 
For those of us who want the knowledge of God to spread, then there are some wonderful examples throughout this chapter that give us an action plan resulting in people understanding the fear of the LORD.  This action plan arose from a problem.  We all have problems, but the way we deal with those problems can give us quite different results. 

Jehosophat, in dealing with his problem, proclaimed a fast.  Most often fasting and prayer go hand in hand.  This was certainly the case in this scenario.  Step 1, then, is to ask others to join in fasting and prayer as we seek a solution to our problem.

There are some great action words in verse 4 "The people of Judah came together to seek help from the LORD; ... they came ... to seek him." (2Chron 20:4)  Step 2:  Come together to seek God.

Then Jehosophat and the people of Judah prayed.  Don't stop at getting together:  Step 3 is to get together and Pray.

After the prayer all the people worshipped.  We could call this step 4:  Worship the LORD (v.18).

Step 5 is to praise the LORD.  We read, "Then some ... stood up and praised the LORD, the God of Israel, with a very loud voice." (v.19)

Jehosophat's next encouragement was to tell the people to have faith in God.  Step 6 is to have faith in God.

Then before the problem was even solved they sang praise to God, giving thanks to him for his victory. (v.21)  Step 7 is to sing praise and give thanks in anticipation of God's help.

At this point God solved Jehosophat's problem.  But we cannot finish there.

Step 8 is to be joyful in the victory God has given us - let it show!

And step 9 is to give praise and thanks for God's work for us (v.28)

It was only after this that "The fear of God came upon all the kingdoms of the countries when they heard." (v.29)  Let's follow this example.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Robert

 

Vs.35-37 Again, family ties interfered with Jehoshaphat's walk.  He joined himself to Ahaziah, the wicked king of Israel.  Ahaziah was the son of Ahab, the brother of Athalia, who was the wife of Jehoram, Jehoshaphat's son.  Athalia and Jehoram had a son also named Ahaziah, who was then the nephew of Ahaziah king of Israel.  Again, Yahweh was displeased with Jehoshaphat's liaison with the house of Ahab and frustrated his plans


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

20:17  The call to Jehoshaphat to "stand ye still and see the salvation of the Lord" would remind him of the deliverance that God gave Israel from Egypt (Exo 14:13)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
V.6-12 This prayer of Jehoshaphat covers many topics, which as king of God's chosen people could ask on behave of his people. It concludes with an earnest appeal to the justice of God to protect those who were attacked, and were unable to defend themselves against the overwhelming numbers of the Moabites anf the Ammonites.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

20:20-23 The use of singers to win the battle forced the king and the people to realise that the battle was the Lord’s and that he did not man to fight for Him. What he required of man was praise. He could do the rest.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

20:23 The way in which the enemy destroyed one another is reminiscent of the days of Gideon – Judg 7:22


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.36 The port of Ezion-geber (man’s backbone) was probably situated about 10-15 miles north of where the port of Eilat stands today. That is because the Red Sea used to cover the marshes of the Arabah. The sea does not reach as far inland today, and the marshes have, subsequently, dried out.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

20:4 There would have been little point in Jehoshaphat proclaiming the fast unless the nation were as faithful as he. So we see that in fact the nation were as responsive to God as the king and they did as he suggested. Not only that they ‘sought the Lord’ – that is they did not just fast but also consulted Scripture.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.3 Fasting is an act of self-denial and humility which is overshadowed by a sense of unworthiness. These attitudes are useful when appealing to the greatness of God for help.

V.35 It is important with whom we associate. A righteous person and a wicked person do not mix (Prov 29:27).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

20:2 The ‘sea’ referred to is the Salt Sea.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

2Chron 20:1-3 - Jehoshaphat feared perhaps because he knew this was the expression of divine wrath (2Chron 19:1-2).

2Chron 20:12 - we need to call upon God to help us overcome spiritual obstacles that threaten our salvation.

2Chron 20:14-15,22-23 - God gives us the victory.

2Chron 20:16 - "Jeruel" [(3385) means "founded by God, taught by God"].

2Chron 20:24-26 - death followed by three days followed by blessing/praising God as there was deliverance from the enemy; "berachah" [(1294) means "blessing, praise"].

2Chron 20:27-30,5 - returning joyfully to Jerusalem, temple of the Lord, new courtyard, music, all countries in fear of God, the Lord fights against the enemies of Israel, "realm" [Heb. "malkuth" (4438) means "a rule, kingdom, realm, reign" etc.], royalpeace/quiet, God providing rest - the previous has almost a millenial day echo.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles
Reading 2 - Daniel 2
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In v.23 and 36 Daniel speaks in the plural of himself, saying us/we. Who else is he referring to? In the context of v.36 and what he has said to Nebuchadnezzar before, it would seem to be Daniel and God, but in v.23 that is not the case as he is saying that God has made the kings matter known to us. Were there others around that were with Daniel that we are not told of? Were his friends there?
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
2:21 The 'times and seasons' are events which are in God's, not man's control. Thus even though the nation of Israel had been taken captive by the Babylonians and the temple had been destroyed God was still in control of events. This must have been a great comfort to those who understood these things.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.5,6 - Along with many other things, one of the things we are shown here is the change in Nebuchadnezzar, who eventually turned and worshipped God. Here is the man of extremes - the man corrupted with power - the man whom no other man could gainsay. This is the man that God humbled
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
2:1 This is the same time as Jeremiah 36:9 - see Daniel 1:1
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS

What staggers me when looking at this prophecy in Daniel is that we are living in the last days of man's domination on the earth. According to this overview of world history - no matter what variations of interpretation we take - it puts us into the time of the feet and toes of iron and clay. Following this time in history there is no more opportunity for men to rule the world. The next item on the agenda is the stone that crushes the feet of the image and then grinds the whole thing to powder. The stone then grows and becomes a huge mountain that fills the whole earth.. It will be a completely new order of things for the world. It will be a kingdom set up in righteousness that will fill the whole world.

But the point is this: We are living in the last days before Jesus returns to set up this kingdom. We probably haven't got a lifetime to think about it - it could happen any day. Are you ready for him?

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Robert
2:35 That 'no place was found for them' is developed (Revelation 20:11) indicating that the final fulfilment of Daniel 2 is the time when the kingdom is established.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
I have always understood the plural spoken of was of Daniel's three friends. He told them (17) of the thing, so that they (18) would seek the assistance of their God. I can see your point in v36 of we being God, but I would still think that it was Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to John
2:34 When Daniel spoke of the stone which "brake them to pieces" he uses language which Jesus uses in Matt 21:44 when speaking to the leaders of his day about the end of those who rejected the "stone".

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.16 It appears that Daniel did not go in, in person, but by the mediation of one who had access to the king. Daniel's first direct interview appears to have been recorded in Dan 2:25
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

V.4 Most of the Old Testament is written in Hebrew, but this portion of scripture is recorded in Syriac.  Syriac is alternatively known as Chaldean or Aramaic (which has several regional forms). 

Aramaic became the language of business and diplomacy in the Near East. It was the court language of the Persian Empire. It was still the common language during Jesus' time. For example, Jesus demonstrated this when He exclaimed the opening words of Ps 22 in Aramaic: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? (Mark 15:34).

V.13 The authorities did not distinguish between wise men, and lumped Daniel and his companions with everyone else to be killed.  Daniel set about making a distinction which ultimately won him honor. 

Are we considered Christians like everyone else, or do we make a point of being distinct?  If we do not, we shall be lumped together with the rest, destined for destruction.  If we do, by witnessing the Truth both in doctrine and walk, then we, like Daniel, will be ultimately honored.  The king who will honor us will be the Lord Jesus when He returns to earth. 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
PRAY TOGETHER
 
It was a time of urgency.  Daniel knew that God had the answers Nebuchadnezzar had asked for, so it was time to ask God to reveal those answers.  Daniel could have gone into his room alone and prayed to his God for the solution that was needed, but instead he called his friends and asked them to pray with him.  "Then Daniel returned to his house and explained the matter to his friends Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah.  He urged them to plead for mercy from the God of heaven concerning this mystery, so that he and his friends might not be executed with the rest of the wise men of Babylon." (Dan 2:14)  Their prayer was answered that very night.
 
Daniel decided not to pray alone.  Of course God hears our individual prayers - even Daniel, as he prayed at a later time, was heard and answered even though he prayed alone - but there is special power in the combined prayers of a group.  Jesus said, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." (Matt 18:20)  Again, even if we are alone he is with us, but there is something special about fellowship and prayer together..
 
So instead of trying to go it alone when we pray, let's follow Daniel's example and call our friends so that they can pray with us.  There is power in prayer and especially when we can unite with others as we give thanks and make requests to God.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Robert

V.46 We may be sure that Daniel, who refused to compromise those things that he believed and stood for (1:8) , he did not give up prayer when his life was at stake (6:28), and disclaimed all personal merit in the matter of the dream (V.30), attributing all glory to God (V.45), did not compromise on that occasion when an oblation and sweet odors (divine honors Ezra 6:10) were ordered to be offered him, that is his God, in the intent of a pagan king. 


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John
The dream of Nebuchadnezzar is sometimes thought of as outlining the four world empires – but surely there have been far more than four? What about the Indian, Chinese, British etc?  Surely the answer is that these four empires controlled the Middle East when Israel was a nation.  What the rest of the world got up to is of little importance.  One Brother used to say that there was a large time gap at the ankle stage of the image, while Israel was out of it’s land. From AD70 until the early 1900’s the Jews were dispersed. But then on their return the “feet” stage began. So today with Israel there, the strong and weak nations have been pulling in different directions, and will do until Christ returns – then a REAL world empire!
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

2 Chapter 1 sets the scene. Chapters 2-5 form the first part of the prophecies. The king’s view of world affairs.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

2:10-11 The response of the magicians, like the response of the magicians in Egypt - Exo 8:19 - is an open admission hat there is a God who can do things that they, with their trickery, could not.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
2:9 till the time be changed Until a new state of things arrive...either by my ceasing to trouble myself about the dream, or could it have beem that Nebuchadnezzar was troubled by suspecting the Calaldeans of plotting against him, to overthrow him, by setting up this dream?
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

 

The metals of Daniel's image are interesting.  They comprise:

- Head of gold

- Chest and arms of silver

- Belly and thighs of bronze

- Legs of iron

Technically, the density of metal is measured by the product of grams multiplied by centimeters to the negative cubed root.

The densities of the metals in the image are:

Gold - 19.3

Silver - 10.49

Bronze - 8.75 (bronze is an alloy usually made from 88% copper and 12% tin. The density of copper is 8.96, and that of tin is 7.265).

Iron - 7.86

Notice the diminishing values of densities in descending order.  What this tells us is that the image is top-heavy.  It stands on feet, whose mixture of iron and clay presents the least dense and stable of all the components of the image.  Thus, the stone hitting the feet of the image has no trouble in bringing down the top-heavy statue.

Christ (the stone) will have no trouble in bringing down all opposing earthly authorities (represented by the four empires) when He returns to earth.  He will then set up His kingdom which will never be destroyed (v.44).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

2:16 The king had already told the Babylonian astrologers that they could not be told the dream beaus they wanted to ‘buy the time’ –2:8 – and yet Daniel asks for time. The difference being that Daniel wanted the time to pray to God with his companions whereas the Babylonian astrologers wanted the dream so they could invent an interpretation.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

In the 4th.Century AD, the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity. He convoked the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. This Council determined that God was a Trinity.

All who did not believe in the Trinity were called heretics. Thus, there was created a sharp division between those who held to apostolic beliefs, and those of the militant camp of Constantine. This division has lasted right through to the present day. Through Constantine, Imperial Rome was transformed to Ecclesiastical Rome (the Catholic Church).

In the 11th.Century AD, the Catholic Church broke into two parts: Roman Catholic; and Eastern Orthodox. These two sections are represented by the two iron legs of Daniel’s image. The feet are a mixture of iron and clay. Clay is symbolic of humanity, and here represents nations.

Different toes represent different nations. But, these nations are partly iron. That means, this collection of nations is influenced by ecclesiastical Rome. In the end times, this group of nations will form Catholic Europe. It will be hostile towards Jesus and try to destroy Him.

But, Jesus (the stone) will destroy them. In doing so, all nations will become subject to the Lord, who will grow together with His saints, to fill the whole earth. Then, the peaceful Kingdom period will begin.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

2:44 That the kingdom that is to be set up "shall never be destroyed" is a refrain which runs through the prophecy – see 6:27, 7:14 and is contrasted with the end of ‘raiser of taxes’ – 11:20 who will be destroyed.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
Dan 2:44  First Principles>Kingdom of God>To be Everlasting and world-wide
The Kingdom of God will be a visible, irresistable and everlasting dominion to be established on earh in the place of all existing kingdoms for the purpose of subjecting, blessing and perfecting the world.
Dan 2:44, Dan 7:13,14,27, Psa 2:8,9, Hag 2:22, Zech 14:9, Rev 11:15, Rev 19:11-15
First Principles>Kingdom of God> Go to Gen 12:1 to see more details about the Kingdom of God.
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

Christ's future kingdom on earth will triumphantly replace the succession of earthly world powers - Dan 2:44-45;Luke 1:32-33;1Cor 15:24;2Pet 1:10-11;Rev 11:15.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

 

Vs.48,49 Daniel was the highest official in the palace and the chief confidant of the king. Daniel’s companions were trusted administrators of the Province of Babylon only. For the rest of the Babylonian Empire, Daniel and his companions had no power.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael
Usually when thinking about this chapter we might go straight to the prophecy in the latter half. But that's a shame. If we study the first 30 verses of this chapter we can learn for ourselves how to petition God in communal prayer like Daniel did (v17). How to thank God when we have received what we asked for (v20-23). And how to make sure we acknowledge God as the source when others want to congratulate us (27-30).
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

2:5 In saying that he could not remember the dream we maybe have an indication that Nebuchadnezzar did not trust the astrologers especially when we see his comment (verse 8). The fact that he allowed Daniel ‘time’ (verse :16) seems to indicate that Nebuchadnezzar is more favourably disposed towards a belief in Yahweh.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - John  20 and 21
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21 v. 14 - Jesus' appearances to the selected believers after the resurrection were tiny snapshots of time. It clearly was not the case that he walked around freely as he had done before and we are just told of small amounts of what happened. It seems he was not around at all except on these special occasions.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

20:1 In saying 'Morning after the sabbath' John is wishing us to notice the link with the offering of the firstfruits. Leviticus 23:10 15 Jesus was the firstfruits of them that slept His resurrection is our guarantee 1 Corinthians 15:23.

21:3 In telling the disciples 'he goeth before you to Galilee' we have the reason why the disciples went to Galilee Matthew 28:7 Mark 16:7 It was all part of Jesus plan to commission the disciples for their preaching activities.
Doubtless Galilee was where Jesus was seen of above five hundred at the same time 1 Corinthians


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

20:15 We might think it quite natural that Mary would think that Jesus was the gardener in the garden. However there is a beautiful parallel and contrast with the first Adam. Adam was given the job of tending Eden. He was indeed the gardener.

21:9 The mention of a 'fire of coals' echoes John 18:18 when Peter denied Jesus. This encounter which has a threefold questioning of Jesus was the route through which Peter's recovery was achieved. By contrast there was no recovery for Judas. By now he had hung himself. Denial is forgivable. Betrayal was the behaviour of a man who did not appreciate the true character of his lord and God. Consequently there was no place for repentance.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

20:7 There is a contrast with the coming of Lazarus out of the tomb (John 11:44). Jesus was not bound in the graveclothes because, unlike Lazarus, he had conquered death - death no more had dominion over him. This was not true of Lazarus.

21:14 In telling us that this was 'the third time' that Jesus had been seen by the disciples we are being reminded of Deuteronomy 17:6. We know that there were many appearances of Jesus to the disciples (Acts 1:3) so unless the majority took place after these three here mentioned we have to conclude that John's selectivity is to make the point of the fact that Jesus' resurrection is attested to by (two or) three witnesses.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

20:8  John - 'That other disciple' 'saw and believed' Thomas says that he will not believe unless he sees (20:25). These two comment are taken up by Jesus ( 20:29) when speaking to Thomas.

21:12 Jesus 'shewed himself alive after his passion ... being seen of them forty days' (Acts 1:3) so why were the disciples frightened to ask 'Who art thou'?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

20:.25,27 We must place the words of Thomas and those of Jesus next to each other, in order to see how precisely, and fully the demands of Thomas are met.
The demands of Thomas
The commands of Jesus
Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails.
Behold my hands
Put my finger into the print of the nails
Reach hither thy finger
Thrust my hand into his side
Reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side
I will not believe
Be not faithless, but believing
For every demand of Thomas, there is a command of Christ.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

20:16 That Mary called Jesus Rabboni  underscores the fact that the common speech of Jews at this time was Aramaic and not Hebrew.

20:28 Thomas is not claiming that Jesus is God as some suppose.  He is witnessing the Son of God who had been immortalized and had been in the presence of His Father in heaven.  As such, Jesus had the Father truly manifest in Him and bore His Name.  Jesus and God were still separate persons but truly bound in the same Spirit.  All true followers of Christ will attain the same status of having God manifest in them, and will also bear His Name (1Cor 15:28; Rev 22:3,4).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

21:15-19 - Jesus asks Peter three times if he loves him and Peter replies three times yes that he loves him. The first two times Jesus uses the agapeo (25) form of deep love and Peter responds with the phileo (5368) form of friendship love. The third time Jesus uses the phileo (5368) form of friendship love and a grieved Peter responds with the phileo (5368) form of friendship love. After each asking of love Jesus says to feed my sheep. Matt 26:33-35 - Peter had said he would never deny Christ. Peter was likely grieving over his three time denial as Christ noted the contrast in asking the degree of his love three times particularly with the last time asking if Peter even loved (5368) him as a friend. But Christ reassures Peter that he would become stronger spiritually even to the extent of glorifying God in a death of crucifixion. 


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Charles

20:29 We are amongst those spoken of by Jesus in this verse – we have not seen but still believe. We should remember the wonderful blessing that God will shower on those who not having seen still believe.

21:25 In saying that there were more things that could be written John is reflecting, it seems, on Psa 40:5. The miracles are not simply evidences of Jesus’ Messiaship. They are some of God’s ‘wonderful works’


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
FEED THE FLOCK
 
Three questions, three answers, and three replies. '"Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my Lambs."' (John 21:15) Each of the three times this dialogue was  repeated, the phrasing was a little different but the essence of it was very similar.
Jesus: "Do you love me?"
Peter: "Yes I do."
Jesus: "Feed my Lambs, Care for my sheep, Feed my sheep"
 
Can we ask ourselves the questions Jesus asked Peter? Do we love Jesus more than these? (More than our livelihood, the activities or the people in our lives?) Do we truly love him? Do we love him like a brother? I hope that our answers, like Peter's, are all positive answers: "Yes, you know I love you." If this is the case and we do love him, then it follows that we must also take note of his instruction and put it into practice in our lives as Peter did in his. We must care for and feed the flock of Jesus.
 
Jesus' flock is made up of his people - those who follow him. We can care for them by meeting their needs, helping, giving, praying, serving and loving. And we can feed them by our encouragement, discussion and by opening the word of God together. So let us, if we love the Lord, make sure we care for and feed his flock.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Robert

20:11 Mary has already been at the tomb – John 20:1 – and had ran back to the home where Peter and John were. She had run back to the tomb, by now a bit out of breath. Peter and John, not surprisingly, had arrived at the tomb before her. By the time she arrived both Peter and John had left. So even thugh Mary had set off to go back to the tomb with Peter and John she was there alone.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

21:1 It is only John who refers to the sea of Galilee as the sea of Tiberias – John 6:1,23 and here. The previous occasion also involved feedings – the feeding of the 5,000. Here Jesus feeds the disciples and then tells Peter to feed the brethren when he is converted


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

20:7 The chief priests tried to deny the fact that Jesus had risen from the dead. They bribed the soldiers to say that the disciples stole Jesus dead body (Matt 28:12,13). However, the evidence made them out to be liars. Who would strip off the corpse’s clothes and fold them into different piles, when kidnapping a body?


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

20:17 Mary’s natural reaction, upon seeing Jesus, would be to grab hold of him in joy. However Jesus had other things for her to do – go and tell my disciples. Mary’s mind must have been full of all sorts of ideas but that Jesus was going to leave again would doubtless have been the last thing on her mind, though doubtless she did not grasp fully the implications of what she was experiencing!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

20:9 For as yet they knew not the scripture (KJV) is better translated: for as yet they did not understand the Scripture (ESV). Undoubtedly, the disciples knew the Scripture, which was Psa 16:9,10. But, they did not understand its significance at this time.

20:16 Rabboni was the greatest title for a teacher and master. Smith’s dictionary says: The titles were used with different degrees of honor; the lowest being rab, master; then rabbi, my master; next, rabban, our master; and greatest of all, Rabboni, my great master.

20:17 Touch me not (KJV) seems to utter a prohibition against touching Jesus. However, the sense is better understood by: Do not cling to me (ESV). It was not the touching that concerned Jesus, but the delay which the clinging caused.

21:11 The significance of the 153 can be seen in the following way. In Hebrew, each letter has a numerical value. This relationship is called the gematria. In the Old Testament, the phrase Sons of God occurs seven times. The numerical value for the Sons of God: בני האלהים (b'nei elohim) is 153.

The disciples had been told that they would be fishers of men (Matt 4:19). And so, the catching of 153 fish in the net represented the many who would be brought to Jesus, via the Gospel, to become Sons of God. Notice that the net was so full that it was a miracle it did not break. Such would be the bounty of those coming to Jesus (Luke 10:2; Acts 2:24).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

21:8 The little detail that the disciples came ‘in a little ship’ tells us that they had been using a larger ship to fish and that the disciples on the shore also had a ship so that they could work with two boats to bring in the net. In this little details we learn something about the way in which fishermen fished on Galilee.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

LOVE FEEDS SHEEP

 

Peter and Jesus had a discussion about love. Theree times Jesus asked the question, "Do you love me?" The first two times Jesus asked the question, the word he used for love was Agape, a love of absolute devotion, a choice to love, a love that continues far above feelings. But when Peter replied he used the word Phileo which is the love one has for a brother or a family member, a fondness. And the third time Jesus asked Peter if he loved him, he also used the word Phileo. No wonder Peter was hurt.

 

I wonder how we would go being asked the same questions? Are we really prepared to go all out Agape for Jesus? Are we prepared to give up everything for him? Are we prepared to be totally selfless while we live for Jesus? But whether our answer is "Yes," or whether, like Peter, we are unsure of how devoted we could really be and answer "You know that I am fond of you," Jesus' request of Peter and of us is still the same.

If we love Jesus at all then he wants us to "Feed my lambs." (John 21:15) "Take care of my sheep." (v.16) And to "Feed my sheep." (v.17

 

Our love of Jesus must be shown to others who love Jesus, to our fellow believers, to those who are seeking Jesus. Let us show the love that we would show to Jesus in practical ways for the well being, and spiritual well being of all those who are also following Jesus.


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Robert