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Reading 1 - Nehemiah  5 and 6
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5 v.7 Expecting repayment with usury of the people of the Lord was against the law of Moses - Exo.22:25, Lev.25:36, Deut.15:2,3, 23:19,20, 24:10-13, Psa.15:1,5, Eze.22:12, 45:9, Luke 6:35. It is, as we see in the last reference, against the law that Christ introduced too. We need to let the underlying attitude here infiltrate all of our thinking towards our brethren and sisters.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

5:7 The nobles, in exacting usury of their brethren were violating the law of Moses Exodus 22:25. Nehemiah in calling for them to restore that which they had taken was calling for a spiritual revival. Thus we can see that it can be that there is a spirit to work in the ecclesia and at the same time there can be those with a different spirit.

ch.6 Because Nehemiah would not walk into the trap that Sanballat and his company were attempting to set for him Nehemiah 6:1-4 he changes his approach and begins to slander him instead. Nehemiah 6:6-7. Thus his true motive can easily be seen.
However the plot had not ended. Sanballat had hired a prophet of the Lord - but again Nehemiah, because of his trust in his God would not follow his plans.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
6 v.9 - Let us, like them, turn to God at all times for our strength and not try to go forward in our own.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

5:14 This verse demonstrates that Nehemiah was in Jerusalem for 12 years from the time he first arrived until he returned. Such was his commitment to the work of rebuilding the physical and spiritual life of the city of Jerusalem.

6:18 The relationship between Tobiah and Shechaniah did not only corrupt them. It had an impact of the rest of Judah - so we see that our actions do not only affect our own lives. Others maybe caused to stumble because they see the things that we do.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
BUT I PRAYED, 'NOW STRENGTHEN MY HANDS'
As the wall neared completion the enemies of the Jews got more and more desperate to stop the work. We read that "They were all trying to frighten us, thinking, 'Their hand will get too weak for the work, and it will not be completed.'" But Nehemiah prayed a short and specific prayer for the time, "Now strengthen my hands." God answered his prayer and strengthened both his hands and the hands of those that were working on the wall. It was completed in record time. From start to finish they took only 52 days. Nehemiah gives all the credit for this to God.
There have been times in my life when I have been doing the Lord's work, when the task and the opposition have seemed too great to carry on. In the end God has always seen me through it - but I wish I had thought of praying this prayer, "Now strengthen my hands." Maybe next time I will remember. But there are times like this in the life of every believer - if not yet - it will come. Remember this prayer at that time, "Now strengthen my hands," and then get on with the work God has given us to complete.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Robert

5:6 Do we think 'anger' is becoming for the servant of God? If we doubt this then think on these examples of anger. Exodus 32:19 Numbers 11:1 1 Samuel 20:34 Mark 3:5. Clearly anger is appropriate in certain circumstances. Maybe we do not get angry often enough when we see the things of God being undermined.

6:9 Whilst it appears that Nehemiah was in control of events in that he did not fall into the trap Sanbalat had laid for him we should appreciate that he was still afraid of his actions. The fact that we are doing the right thing does not remove anxieties about how things will work out.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
TEST THE SPIRITS.

The opposition to the rebuilding of the wall was so great that the enemies of the Jews, as they got more and more desperate, tried every trick in the book to stop Nehemiah and the rest of the Jews from building. Nehemiah was tested in almost every way possible as they tried to get him off the job into a place where they could kill him. They invited him to deserted places to 'talk', and sent letters to him accusing him of traitorous motivation, and they even stooped to making someone Nehemiah should have trusted give him bad advice.

So how did Nehemiah manage to avoid all these temptations and resist being led from the job? I believe there were two things that helped.
Firstly, the fact that Nehemiah had an aim, was totally determined to do the job that God had set him and would not be distracted until the work was completed helped him to avoid the temptation.
And secondly, Nehemiah was equally determined not to sin. So when instructions or suggestions came telling him to do something that was wrong, he knew straight away that it was not from God.

So let us also be so dedicated, involved and determined not to sin that nothing will distract us from doing the work of God.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Robert
Neh 6:15-16. With the wall now completed, do we realize that the wall would have been just short of 3 miles long. This would have required huge scaffolding and the using of many burnt stones, which would have required a lot of preparation to make the mortar stick. We must appreciate the amount of work that this must have been before we see how large an undertaking this would have been. If there were approximately 40 building sections,(CH.3) then each building group would have averaged about 80 yards apiece. This would have allowed 2 miles of wall.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to John

5:1-5 In contrast to those who built the walls suffering privations there were some who were still more interested in gaining wealth - even when it meant impoverishing their brethren and violating the law (Exo 22:25) Such self centredness is not limited to those in Nehemiah's day.

We can be self centred and selfish by ignoring the needs of our brethren and sisters.

6:4-5 We may resist opposition a couple of times. Nehemiah, on the other hand, had to deal with the same opposition five times. There had already been those (Hag 1:2) who excused themselves from working to build the temple when there was opposition. How easy it would have been for Nehemiah to excuse himself on the grounds that the opposition was a sign from God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
It took 52 days to rebuild the wall of Jerusalem (Neh 6:15). That’s just over 7 weeks of very hard manual work.  It was the broken down wall which pained Nehemiah so much when he was still working in the palace in Shushan (Neh 1:3). Now he was “home”, and the job was done. Nehemiah is a great example of a single-minded and God-fearing leader.  He led from the front.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

5:14 Nehemiah here points out that he lived the truth as well as proclaiming it. His integrity was unimpeachable, he never accepted these offerings. It appears that the servents of the governor (V.15) usually extracted goods from the people, but Nehemiah's servents had not done so. Because of the fear of God.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

6:1 Tobiah allied himself with Sanballat to hinder Nehemiah and the restoration of Jerusalem. 

There had been intermarriage of some remnant Jews with non-Jews and there had been extensive worship of foreign gods. This group lived in Samaria and became known as the Samaritans.

The returning Jews' deep hatred and mistrust of these idolatrous half-Jews, at this time, passed down through the ages to form the backdrop to Christ's dealing with the Samaritan woman and his parable of the Good Samaritan etc.

What made matters worse for Nehemiah and company were the relationships of Tobiah and Sanballat, by marriage, to the returning Jews. Tobiah's son, Johanan, had married the daughter of Meshullam, who had helped Nehemiah build the wall (3:30; 6:18).  Sanballat's daughter married the high priest's grandson (13:28). 

This was divisive as family loyalties clashed with the common goal of completing Yahweh's work.  Thus, this enemy drew a number of people away.  

We must make sure that family allegiances, in our ecclesias, are not allowed to detract from unity and the work of the Truth. 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

5:9 The quotation ‘fear of our God’ from Lev 25:36 is most appropriate for the situation in hand. The passage in Leviticus is encouraging Israel not to take usury of their brethren so that their brother can live ‘with thee’ – echoed in the way that the wall was built recorded in Neh 3:2 etc:

6:14 A lesser man than Nehemiah would not have left things in God’s hands but would have sought to deal with Sanballat himself.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

5:9 Nehemiah we would suggest, is alluding to Deut 10:12. Human nature being what it is, requires the fear of failure or punishment as well as the offer of blessing. The fear of God enhances reverence; a godly attribute befitting the relationship of weak, sinful mortals before their Creator. Nehemiah's godly conduct is said to be " because of the fear of God" (V.15). Of what value was it to build a wall to keep the alien and the world outside, and thou act like an alien inside the wall?


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

5:19 Despite his enthusiasm for ding the work of God it seems that Nehemiah does not think highly of himself. He, in prayer, asks God to remember him for good. Not for his actions.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
6:3 What an incredible response by Nehemiah. Yet he shows no arrogance, dispite his successes in his work. It was also a very tactful response.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

1:6‘without number’ when speaking of the enemy as grasshoppers, echoes Judg 6:5. On that occasion Gideon was fearful of the large number but God delivered the nation.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

6:1 In 4:3 we saw that Sanballat and Tobiah could only mock. Now another enemy joins the opposition. He has a plan. Verse 2 gives us the plan. So the opposition was an ongoing thing which changed as time passed. Just as Nehemiah and the people had got used to dealing with one problem another arises. That is just like our lives. However we should not simply lament our situation but, as Nehemiah said, recognise that we are doing ‘a great work’ and not be knocked off course in our building the temple of God – the ecclesia.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

6:1,10,14 Nehemiah had the physical difficulty of rebuilding Jerusalem.  Added to that was the constant opposition of Sanballat and Tobiah.  Now we see another oppositional person to deal with, Geshem (Geshem means rain in Hebrew). 

But, probably the most heartbreaking situation was that prophets within Nehemiah's assembly turned out to be false, and in the pay of Sanballat and Tobiah.  Shemaiah, a descendant of Zerubbabel; and Noadiah, together with other prophets, were the troublemakers from within. 

But, Nehemiah trusted in Yahweh, and Yahweh guided him through. This is a valuable lesson for us.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

5:1-4 The return from captivity and the rebuilding the city of Jerusalem was all part of the fulfilment of Bible prophecy. However this did not mean that the people were guaranteed an easy time. But notice the difficulty that the people had was worsened, rather than eased, by the behaviour of their brethren.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

5:7 Exacting usury from a fellow Jew was forbidden under the Law (Exo 22:25).

5:14 The twentieth year of Artaxerxes was in 446 BC.

5:15,17,18 The people were obliged to furnish the table of the governor. But, Nehemiah declined to be a burden to the people. Instead, he furnished his own table and invited 150 of his brethren to dine with him.

Nehemiah acted as governor for 12 years in this manner. He must have been a man of means to be able to afford such a table. He would have acquired his means in Babylon. Perhaps the position of cupbearer to the king was well paid.  The king might have also rewarded Nehemiah from time to time for his valuable service.

6:2 Ono was a town in Benjamin about 30 miles (48 km) north-west of Jerusalem.

6:6 Gamshu (KJV) was Geshem.

6:10,12 Shemaiah had been bribed by Sanballat and Tobiah to frighten Nehemiah.

6:14 Noadiah and other prophets had also been bribed by Sanballat and Tobiah to frighten Nehemiah.

The enemy from within is more difficult to deal with than an external enemy.

6:18 These inter-marriages had taken place before Nehemiah came to Jerusalem. But, Nehemiah was left to deal with the negative results of such alliances.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

Nehemiah attitude in with the Governor bread reminds me of the same principle with Daniel in chapt 1 ,we see as Nehemiah chose not to partake because the bondage was heavy on the people. Like wise Daniel chose the children who had no blemish and had them eat of his wine and meat and he ate beans and drank water   for ten daysand it showed the beautiful out come as quoted before in


Keyon Thomas [Mt Grace Tobago]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Keyon

5:1 This chapter summarises events which took place over a twelve year period – the time that Nehemiah was not in Jerusalem between his first and second visit.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

Neh 5:6-11 - the usury and slavery perhaps reminds of how the religious leaders or nobles of Christ's day enslaved the Jews keeping them from the new covenant in Christ (Matt 5:17;Matt 28:1-15); also reminds how Jesus was angry at the money changers for taking financial advantage of their own  people (Matt 21:12-13); Jesus paid the tax for others and himself (Matt 17:25-27); Jesus feeds us freely (Matt 14:16-21;John 6:27,51) while promising to return (Acts 1:9-11) and establish a kingdom on earth with Jerusalem as capital (Isa 2:1-4;John 10:9).  

Neh 5:14-15,17 - Jesus, like Nehemiah, make their subjects burden light (Matt 11:28-30).

Neh 5:5,8,9 - both did away with slavery (Rom 8:1-3);

Neh 5:18 - both Jesus and Nehemiah provided bread and wine for themselves and others (Matt 26:26-27).  

Neh 5:16 - faithful workers did not acquire any land (Heb 11:13-16).

Neh 6:6-7 - false talk to get other authorities involved (Luke 23:1-3;John 19:12-15).

Neh 6:10-13 - attempts to betray Nehemiah and Jesus by his brethren for money; Nehemiah would not go in the temple as he was not a priest while Jesus was the temple (Matt 7:15-20;John 2:19,21).

Neh 6:15-16 - God was with them in rebuilding the walls (Neh 6:9;James 5:16 - "...the prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.").


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles
Reading 2 - Joel 1
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v.3 - The concept of passing down the knowledge of God from generation to generation goes right through scripture. We are even told that Pharaoh's heart was hardened (Exo.10:1-2) that the experience might be such that it would be remembered as the glory of the eventual deliverance might be passed down from father to son for ever.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

1:4 the locust hath eaten Deuteronomy 28:38
1:5 the wine ... is cut off Isaiah 32:10
1:6 whose teeth ... a lion Revelation 9:8
1:7 laid my vine waste Isaiah 5:6
1:10 the land mourneth Hosea 4:3
1:10 the new wine is dried up Isaiah 24:7
1:12 vine Isaiah 5:5
1:12 joy is withered Isaiah 24:11
1:14 sanctify a fast 2 Chronicles 20:3
1:14 assemble ... all the inhabitants 2 Chronicles 20:13

1:4 the locust hath eaten Deuteronomy 28:38 is the beginning of the evidence that Joel provides to prove that Judah have gone astray from their God. Deuteronomy 28 promises blessings to Israel if they were faithful but curses and punishment if they were unfaithful. The language quoted here is from the section of the curses.

A Jew would know the blessings and cursings and on hearing Joel quote the curse about the locusts should have appreciated that their current experience was a demonstration of their faithfulness. The fact that their God was bringing the curses to pass on them should also have taught them that they worshipped a loving God who would forgive if repentance was manifest.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.1 - Joel's father's name - Pethuel - means 'vision of God', though it seems it was his son in the end that fulfilled the appropriateness of this.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
The use of language from Judges 6:5 'Palmerworm' 6:6 'without number' should have taught Israel that God can save by a few - He did so in the days of Gideon.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
THE DAY OF THE LORD IS NEAR
The day of the LORD is coming! It is near. There is a real urgency about this message from the prophet Joel. The day of the LORD could be here at any moment - and you are not ready. You need to repent and plead with God for deliverance from the day of his wrath, Joel told the people of Israel - and you need to do it now before it is too late!

This message to the people of Israel and Judah is just as applicable to us in our lives today. In the days Joel spoke, Israel and Judah were about to be taken into captivity. Nations had invaded them and had sapped their strength and the final day of the LORD was just around the corner.

We know that we live in the last days. Nearly everything God has said will happen before the return of Christ, has happened. When the rest begins to happen we may find ourselves caught up in what is going on, and it may be too late for us to do anything about it. The day of the LORD is coming for us. The message is urgent because we must act while we still have the time - but time will run out.

Will you be ready for the day of the LORD?

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Robert
1:17-18 The rotten seed, the fires, the lack of pasture would all seem quite natural to the Godless man. However the faithful would see them all as signs that God was displeased with the - see the use of the curses of Deuteronomy
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
1:12 In speaking of the vine being 'dried up' Joel is drawing on the way in which Isaiah speaks of the way in which God had dealt with His vineyard Isa 5
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.13 The priests were to gird themselves in a token of repentance (Isa 32:11, Jer 4:8). This was to set an example for the people, and to acknowledge that their guilt was greater because they were God's ministers.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

V.1 Joel means Yahweh is God . Scholars disagree on the exact dates of Joel's prophecy.  Some put him in 835 BC when Jehoash began to reign (2Kin 11:21).  Others say that he prophesied in 870-865 BC during the reign of Joash.

Joel prophesied to Judah and his theme concerns the Day of Yahweh.  The Day of Yahweh consists, of course, of the second advent of Christ and the Kingdom (2:30-32), but it also concerns the intervening events of Yahweh's dealing with His people Israel (v.15). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael
I understand that the mention of 4 different insects in Joel 1:4 is a poor translation, because in English we do not have appropriate words. What was intended were the 4 stages in the growth of a locust: baby, child, teenager and adult.  In other words there will be successive invasions on the land of Israel, each one getting worse. The Romans did indeed bring the worse trouble in AD70, when the Jews were dispersed worldwide. Of-course this last invasion could also represent the northern host to come against the land in the last days.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

1:7        Laying the vine wast echoes Isa 5:6


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
Parts of this passage tie in perfectly with Hosea 14 which you might have read yesterday. The grain in v17 is withered and shrivelled and the vine in v12 is dried up. In Hos 14:7 the grain is revived and the vine back in growth. Most of the symbols in these two chapters are used by Jesus in his teaching. He was the one who came to revive Israel and bring renewed growth, but they didn't realise it.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Rob

1:5,12 The cutting off of the ‘new wine’ is like Isa 24:7 The withered joy is seen in Isa 24:11 possibly indicating that Joel was contemporary with Isaiah.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

V.4 The enemies of Judah are not specifically stated in Joel's prophecy.  There is a hint that Judah would have many different invaders.  Four different developmental stages of the locust are discussed, which suggests that there would be four invasions.  Locust in Hebrew is arbeh which means many.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

1:6 The way in which the invader is described as having teeth ‘are the teeth of lions’ is picked up as a description in Revelation 9:8 to described the invaders spoken of there.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

Vs.3,4 Joel urged Judah to tell subsequent generations of the invasions suggested by the four different insects. This suggests that the four invasions of Judah would be over an extended period of time.

For the identification of the four invasions of Judah, Jamieson suggests: The Hebrews make the first species refer to Assyria and Babylon; the second species, to Medo-Persia; the third, to Greco-Macedonia and Antiochus Epiphanes; the fourth, to the Romans.

Vs.6,7 These verses are talking about actual locusts coming into the land and devastating the vegetation. Joel’s prophecy intertwines both the plague of real locusts and the figurative use of the insect to depict invading nations.

V.8 Virgin is a poor translation. The Hebrew word betulah indicates in this verse, a young woman, or a bride. A virgin, in the exact sense would be expressed by the Hebrew word almah (e.g. Isa 7:14).

V.15 The Day of the LORD applies to many situations, but they all involve judgment. For Jews, judgment would come upon Judah with the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC. It would also come upon Jerusalem in 70 AD.

But, the end-time application of the Day of the LORD will occur when Yahweh renders judgment on the nations and people which oppose Him. The action shall be taken by Jesus and the Redeemed (Rev 19:15).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

1:10 The way in which the wine dries up and the oil languishes is echoed in Isa 24:7 highlighting, along with the other links with Isaiah 24 that we have shown in earlier years, a link between the events of the two chapters.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - 1Thessalonians  5
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v.22 - This small verse carries with it so much. Consider the following passages in the context of this verse - ch. 4:12, Exo.23:7, Isa.33:15, Matt.17:26,27, Rom.12:17, 1Cor.8:13, 10:31-33, 2Cor.6:3, 8:20, 21, Phil.4:8, Jude 1:23.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

5:6 Much of the warnings in the letter relate to the impending destruction of Jerusalem in Ad 70. 'let us not sleep' in the context of AD 70 takes on new meaning. Paul is alluding to the parable of the virgins which was spoken at the same time as the 'Olivet prophecy'

5:7 the 'night' catches 'at midnight the bridegroom cometh' Matthew 25:6


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
5:13 be at peace among yourselves echoes the words of Jesus (Mark 9:50). How many more quotations of Jesus' words from the gospels do you see in the New Testament letters?
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:22 'Abstain from all appearance of evil' matched 1 Thessalonians 4:12 'walk honestly …' and is one of the most difficult things to do. We have to try to put ourselves in the position of someone who may be critical of us and view our actions and thoughts from their perspective. The natural reaction is to think 'I have no evil motive' but that is not the issue. What others might think is important.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

5:8 The attire which the brethren and sisters were to put on match details of what Paul said to the Ephesians,

 
1 Thess
 
Eph
 
Breastplate of faith and love
breastplate of  righteousness
Helmet hope of salvation  
Helmet of salvation


There is not a significant difference between the breastplate in both passages for it is faith which brings righteousness (Gen 15:6)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.8-22 - the dual importance of living in the light (with uplifting mutual encouragement) and seeing the light (v.21).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Charles
V.11 "edify" (3618) oikodomeo to build, to constuct, a house builder. The exhortation comes to us load and clear, we must encourge, build up others, build up the ecclesia. what a wonderful example Paul provided , not just to the first century ecclesia, but to us today.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

Vs.1-11 Following on from Joel's consideration of the Day of the Lord, Paul likewise exhorts the Thessalonians on the same subject

In terms of Yahweh's dealing with Israel, this could be referring to Jerusalem's demise in 70 AD.  In terms of end time prophecy, it could  refer to the second coming of Christ.  Of course, it could have a dual application. 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

5:3 ‘travail …’ catches the language of Jer 13:21 where Jeremiah is warning about the Babylonian invasion – a patter of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

5:10 The ‘wake’ / ‘sleep’ here speaks of being alive or asleep in Christ awaiting the resurrection. And is not the same concept of ‘sleep’ as we find in verse:6. We must take care to not assume that when the same word is used that the same principle is being developed. The context will show us how to understand the words.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

V.1 Paul is much less concerned about times and dates than he is for brethren to be constantly prepared for the day of the Lord.  Our preoccupation should be watchful, daily preparation without trying to pinpoint the exact day or hour as is the wont of some (Matt 24:42).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

5:11   Notice that the ‘comfort’ has to be ‘together’. The way in which we meet together and talk to each other is to be a comfort to us. If we do not spend time with each other talking about God’s plan and His word we cannot be comforted together.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.2 The return of Jesus to the earth will come as a surprise to the world at large. However, to those believers who are expecting and watching, His return will not be a surprise (v.4).

V.27 Here is another example that Paul spoke and wrote with the authority of the Lord, and that he did not just express his own personal opinions.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

5:8 We have already seen that some of the language in this verse is similar to Ephesians 6. Additionally the idea of the breastplate can be found in Isa 59:17 where the ‘faith’ here represents ‘righteousness’ in Isaiah. Faith and righteousness are inextricably linked – Gen 15:6


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.3 This certainly applied to 70 AD. But, it also applies to the time of Jesus’ return, and the judgment of the nations (Matt 24:37-39).

Vs.9,10 If we are following the commandments of Jesus, we need not be afraid of judgment because Yahweh wants us to succeed (Luke 12:32; 2Pet 3:9).

V.14 Even if we have to admonish our brethren, we must approach the task with humility and patience (See 2Tim 2:24,25).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

v9-11 Paul appears to be suggesting here that exhortations about judgement have no place in our ecclesia. Instead, he says "we have been appointed to obtain salvation!" That means that God has pre-ordained (commanded / appointed) that we will "live together with him (Jesus)" (v10). Judgement is only ordained for "those who do not know God, and those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2Thess 1:7-9). We should be careful not to get confused and apply it to ourselves for whom there should be no fear (1John 4:17-19).

There is a great deal of confusion over this, partly because of the English word "judgement" which can mean either "condemnation" and "decision". So when we read "there is now therefore no condemnation for them that are in Christ Jesus" (Rom 8:1), that's the same word translated judgement elsewhere. This verse is obviously saying that this judgement (condemnation) doesn't apply. Also from the mouth of Jesus himself it is abundantly clear that judgement (condemnation) doesn't apply to believers (John 5:24). What does apply to us is a judgement (decision) by Jesus himself. Does he know us or not? (Matt 7:23, Matt 25:11-12).

Our time should really be spent listening to how we might know Jesus and his teaching better, not worrying about condemnation. If he didn't condemn the tax collectors, harlots and other sinners who came to him, why do you think he would want to condemn you or me? The more we read and learn about his mercy and compassion, the less we will worry about this.


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

5:23 This is the second time in this letter that Paul has told the believers that he wishes for them to be preserved ‘blameless’. The first being 3:13


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

PATIENT WITH EVERYONE

 

"And we urge you, brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be patient with everyone." (1Thess 5:14)

 

Isn't it frustrating when someone is less capable, less motivated or less willing to take a risk than we are? What we really want to do with those people is to put a bomb under them and shock them into action. It would be nice if that worked, but usually it doesn't. Instead, let us follow the urging of Paul to warn those who are idle, encourage the timid and help the weak. These are the people that frustrate us, that make us want to do everything ourselves. They are often the people we think are holding us back from being all that we, or from all our team can be.

 

After explaining the way we should treat these different groups of backward people, Paul adds one more piece of advice that he urges us to follow. "Be patient with everyone." This piece of advice is not limited to one person or another, nor is it limited to any particular group. It is a blanket instruction for use in our dealings with everyone. Even when we think things are going backwards because of the idle, weak and timid people around us, we need to be patient with them all. It might be hard to have such patience with everyone, but because Paul urges us to do it, let's do it. After all, to someone else, it might be us who is considered idle, timid or weak. It is likely that we will need their patience.


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Robert