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Reading 1 - Job  13
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v.8 - Herein lies the problem so many seem to have - that they do not want to accept God's person, but instead create a 'person' of their own making and ascribe it to Him. We must accept God on His terms, by the revelation of Him from scripture, and not make up what we think He should be like. This is very hard for us and many fail.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
And Job continues his words.
13:1-2 He continues with the theme 'I know as much as you all do.'
On the matter of prayer he says that he will speak to God [Job 13:3] but they miss represent Him [Job 13:7].

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.4 - It seems Job is finally fed up with the advice of his friends which depart so seriously from reality.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
13:18 A rash statement from the lips of Job. Was he driven to this comment by the unhelpful nature of the comments of his friends?
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
13:23 Continuing last year's comment Job rashly asks his friends to be specific about his sins. He is seeking to justify himself.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Job 13:13. In view of the failure of Zophar’s arguments, there is no alternative for Job other than to rebuke him sharply and with a sense of resignation, to take his life in his hand(v.14), and wait upon God so as to plead his cause, even though it meant his death.(v.15)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to John
Bro Cyril Tennant in his book on Job (CMPA 1991), quotes other translations of Job 13:15, which alter the sense from the AV. Rather than showing his trust in God, this verse actually says that Job will continue to put his case, his view of his own situation, even though God killed him.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
V.3 Job at this point wishes to plead his cause before God (Job 9:34-35), as he is more and more convinced of the valueless character of his would be "physicians" (Job 16:2).
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

Vs.1-19 are a continuation of Job's reply to Zophar and his friends; vs.20-28 Job is addressing the LORD. Job has no confidence in his friends' ability to impart either comfort or truth (v.27). He realizes that he must plead his case before the LORD whom he trusts (vs.3,15). He feels sure of his innocence and states this before he approaches the LORD (vs.18,19). Then he asks the LORD for two things: to stop the torment (v.21); and give an opportunity to set the record straight (v.22). Job, driven to uphold his integrity, asks the LORD for an accounting (vs.23-28). He does not consider his request as impudent, but rather as a legitimate inquiry. It seems he understands that the LORD can be approached with frankness (Heb 4:16). However, care should be taken not to use a 'legitimate inquiry' as a forum for self-justification.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

13:15  Whatever Job’s problems was he certainly had a faith that God would be fair – but then he seems to slip into thinking that he is justified before God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

13:18  This rash comment contrasts with Job’s own earlier assessment of himself Job 9:2


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

13:2‘I am not inferior unto you …’ continues Job’s grievance against Zophar which started in Job 12:3. Miss-understanding sours relationships and sows bitterness.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.4 Job accused his companions of being forgers of lies and physicians of no value (KJV). The phrase Forgers of lies literally means those who stick on patches and twist the truth.  Job is indicating that his companions added things to their arguments so as to justify themselves.  Physicians of no value means that Job's companions were neither able to heal the damaged body nor heal the broken spirit.  In the ancient Near East, wise men asserted their skill in healing. These wise men demonstrated their lack of skill and exposed themselves as a sham. They were comparable to the Pharisees who continually justified their righteousness but demonstrated their hypocrisy. They could heal nobody, either physically or spiritually. And so, when they came up against the most powerful physician of all, they were defeated by His wisdom (Matt 9:11-13).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

13:4 Job now defends himself against his friends observing that they are all liars. One would hope that when we try to help our friends that they are not able to accuse us of telling lies about them.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

13:7 Job’s friends have at least implied that they are speaking God’s teaching. Now Job accuses his friends of misrepresenting God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 2 - Nahum 3
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v.13 - This is one of 4 passages (the other 3 are Isa.19:16, Jer.50:37, 51:30) where a concept is used which is highly offensive to our 21st century ears. I would be very keen to hear from others how they cope with God using this type of analogy.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
3:4 'Because of whoredoms' as the reason for the destruction of Nineveh helps us to realise that Assyria was not overthrown because of the fact that he had taken Israel captive and come against Judah.
Indeed these invasions were at the instigation of Yahweh. Isaiah 10:5 However the Assyrians, rather than recognising that Yahweh had given them the dominion placed their trust in their own gods. 2 Kings 18:30 Isaiah 36:15 This is the 'whoredoms' of Nineveh.
Just like Israel and Judah, they trusted in their own imagination rather than Yahweh. Thus the reason for the taking captive of Israel and punishment of Judah and overthrow of Assyria were for the same reason. A failure to recognise Yahweh as the true God.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.8 - No is the Greek place Thebes, famed for its many gates and massive population. It was the place where the god Amon was worshipped.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
3:10 That lots were cast for the children of the Assyrian matched the way that the Assyrian invasion of Israel had caused the same fate to fall upon the children of the Jews (Joel 3:3)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
3:4 Isn't it interesting that a gentile nation was to be punished because of it's idolatry - for that is what is implied in 'whoredoms'
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

 

In time of war, women (and their children) are the most vulnerable of the population.
It is clear that, even in the 21st. century, largely a woman's lot is not a happy one.  But nothing has changed over history which has catalogued women's relative weakness, vulnerability, and fearfulness.
And so, it is with no surprise that the prophets mention this in their description of fearful nations at war (3:13, Isa 19:16, Jer 50:37, 51:30).
Under Christ, we accept the respect, love, and dignity between genders while deferring to the hierarchical role that Christ has with His ecclesia (Eph 5:22-30).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Michael
3 So here we have the 'comfort' of Nahum. He speaks of the overthrow of the Assyrian.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.14 During this siege we have the exhortations going out to defend herself, she must be prepared. 1)"draw waters" As not to be without water to drink if the Assyrians sieged the fountains. 2) 'Make strong the brick kiln". To have a supply of bricks formed of kiln-burnt clay, to repair the breaches in the ramparts, or to build new fortifications inside when the outer ones are taken by the Assyrians. 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John
Nineveh, and the Assyrian empire, are to perish. The Lord God of Israel has said so. Mighty nations come and go, but when God speaks against them, there is no hope of survival. Nineveh fell in about 607BC, to a combined assault of Babylonians and Medes. Samaria had been taken captive about 721BC, and then Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians in 587BC. The Medes conquered Babylon in 538BC, and it was within  the first year of Cyrus the Mede that the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David
The destruction of Nineveh is forecast (v.7).  It is compared to the fall of the city of No (Thebes) in Egypt (vs.8-10).  Thebes had been the mighty capital of Upper Egypt for over 1300 years.  She sat securely on the banks of the Nile, just as Nineveh sat on the banks of the Tigris.  Upper Egypt was also secured by its friendly neighbors - Libya (Put and Lubim) to the west and Sudan (Ethiopia) to the south.  But then in 671 BC Egypt was invaded; and in 664 BC Thebes was destroyed.  The invaders were the Assyrians.  The tables turned, when just over 50 years after the decimation of Thebes, Nineveh was destroyed at the hands of the Babylonians and Medes.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

3:5 As we saw in chapter 2. The misfortune was God’s doing. It was not the result of a powerful nation coming against them.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

3:5 We might have thought that God was only concerned to punish those who were in a covenant relationship with Him. However the way that God pronounces judgements upon Assyria and then executes them indicates that God is not willing to tolerate wickedness in men just because they are not His people.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
3:19 Not only was Assyria bruised, it was fractured beyond repair. Nineveh has fallen to rise no more, her mighty men have passed off the scene, never to be numbered among the living. Many oriental cities have risen from their ashes to be rebuilt, but not with Nineveh.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

 

It is prophesied of Nineveh that: thou shalt be hid (v.11).  After its destruction in 612 BC, the site of Nineveh became buried until it was discovered in 1842 AD.  The city was hid for a long time.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

3:14-15           It seems ironic that Nahum encourages the Assyrians to prepare for a siege which they would not survive!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

The multitude of chariots mentioned in v2-3 is a feature of Assyrian warfare, as we can see in 2Kin 19:20-23. It was these chariots of war that caused Sennacherib to boast against God, and led to God destroying his army (2Kin 19:35-37). When Nineveh was found in 1830, these exact scenes were found displayed on the walls!

Click the following link for an example (v3 horsemen charge with glittering spear ... they stumble over the corpses):

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BzsEAAAAYAAJ&dq=eunuch%20warrior%20battle%20nimroud&pg=PA212&ci=107,728,784,715&source=bookclip


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Rob

3:7 When the nations see Nineveh laid waste they will see God’s hand at work. Now whilst this did not happen when the Assyrian nation was destroyed it certainly will happen when Jesus returns


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

3:13 In saying that the gates of Nineveh would be wide open the prophet actually describes how the Medes took the city. Whilst the gates were closed the Medes diverted the river that ran through the city gates so the men could walk under the gates,


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - 1Peter  1
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v.4 - There are a number of passages that keep assuring us that we have a place in God's plan, as this one does. We do well to take great comfort from a constant reconsideration of the state of grace to which we are called. Col.1:5, 3:3,4, 2Tim.4:8
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
1:2 elect ... foreknowledge of God Jews would think of themselves as 'elect' because of their birth. Isaiah 45:4 'Israel mine elect'. Peter is stressing that election in Christ is a consequence of God's calling, not birth.
1:2 sprinkling of the blood. Whilst drawing on the Passover blood the election through blood is presented as relating to the work of Jesus

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

Doubtless we see many sacrifices under the law of Moses which foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus. One that is greatly highlighted in the New Testament is the Passover. Peter quotes two pieces of language to remind his readers of the links

1:13   gird up the loins  Exodus 12:11 
1:19   lamb without blemish   Exodus 12:5 

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:16 The quotation from Leviticus 12:4 is simple and straight to the point. Holiness is a requirement because that is how God is. After all we are made in His image (Genesis 1:27)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

1:23 'born again' more accurately would be translated 'begotten'. It is the same word as 'begotten' in  1Pet 1:3. The sense is different from Jesus' words (John 3:3,7) Whilst Jesus is talking about something we must do Peter is describing what God has done for us.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.2 Grace encompasses the concepts of mercy, love, and the forgivness of sin. Grace is that which God extends to man. Peace, by contrast, is that which the possessor expressses externally to his fellow man. in a sense, the concepts grace and peace relate to each other as cause and effect. That is God's gift of grace results in peace.  
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

1:13 In saying "gird up the loins of your mind" Peter is quoting the words of Jesus (Luke 13:35) adding the word "mind" to expound the words of Jesus


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
1:24-25 In these two verses we see a unity of scripture. The readers in the 1st. century received the Old Testament as the Word of God. When the apostles preached the gospel of Jesus to them, they accepted it also as God's Word. For them both the Law and the Prophets, along with Christ's gospel had equal authority and validity. (2Tim 3:16)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

1:8 Peter had heard Jesus tell Thomas that those who had ‘not seen’ John 20:29 the risen Jesus will be blessed. Peter is speaking to a group of brethren in this category.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

1:12     In saying ‘which things the angels desire to look into’ Peter teaches us that the angels are not all knowing but that their knowledge of the way that things will unfold in the future is limited.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

Vs.9,10 The hope in Christ is firmly established in the Old Testament.  Therefore, it is imperative that one reads the whole Bible, not just the New Testament, to understand the Gospel message.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

1:13 As well as maybe having the words of Jesus in mind – Luke 13:35 – the Passover details may well also have been in Peter’s mind – Exo 12:11


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

Consider if you were in place of the Jews receiving this letter from Peter. Would you tolerate these insults on your nation, religion, family and your own conduct? 

Verse
Implication
Your hope was dead. You need something else to make you alive.
Your inheritance was corrupt and defiled!
You were ignorant, just following your impulses
The way of life your fathers passed down to you was aimless 
So you need to be born into a better family, of better stock

This goes a long way to explaining why the gospel received such resistance from the Jews. It could only be accepted through extreme humility. Do we have this humility when the Bible tells us something we don't want to hear?



Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

1Pet 1:18 The way in which Peter speaks of Jesus as ‘a lamb without blemish’ quotes Exo 12:5 – the Passover.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter