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it quite frightening how easily these men draw the wrong conclusions from
the right knowledge and make it seem to stem from the correct logic. It
is frightening because it is a mistake that is so easy to make, and it is
frightening because of how difficult it is to assess whether the views of
others interpret scripture aright. We must have faith in God's guiding hand
in these issues. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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Zophar responds for the second time. This vitriolic invective which comes from Zophar's mouth is actually directed at Job. He is suggesting that each of the accusations that he seems to be making generally is actually true of Job. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.29
- It is clear that, like his friends, Zophar has concluded that Job deserved
what he got because of evil which he must have done, and has spent quite
a bit of this chapter speculating on what it might have been. These three
men, even if their true desire was to comfort, which I personally doubt,
only succeeded in making Job's life more miserable. We need to beware of
this, that when we comfort others, we do it according to the words of scripture,
else we may instead put a stumblingblock in our brother's way, as Job's
friends did, and make the problem far harder to bear. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 20:29
Zophar seems to be no longer concerned to help Job. This long invective
ends with Job being equated with 'the wicked'. Do we ever think of our brethren
like this - wicked because we cannot understand what they are doing or suffering? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 20:2
So Zophar is answering in 'haste' - 'Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry:
for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.' (Ecclesiastes
7:9) Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| JOB 20. Once again we see in Zophar’s response just how rough and crude this man really was. He displays no refinement in how he speaks to Job. He was incapable of understanding Job’s thoughts and argument. Zophar is saying that from the time of creation(4), the wicked might exult in his in his ways, but it would be short lived(5). A sinner could find no escape from God. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2003 reply to John |
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The popular saying: with friends like these who needs enemies rings true. Now the accusations have become more bitter and caustic. Zophar is talking about the wicked and their demise in general, but really it is a veiled accusation against Job. Zophar blames Job for becoming a rich man on the backs of the poor (v.19 see 1:3). Job's friends, who have equated his punishment with sin, are now rubbing it in. Their hypocritical self-justification will not be allowed to continue, as we will see. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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I find it hard to imagine that Zophar really believed Job was so bad. In almost every verse of this chapter he describes the thoughts and the actions of wicked, and says how God will punish such a man. But at the end of the book God reveals His Own view of these three friends, and asks Job to pray for them, for "ye have not spoken of Me the thing which is right, like My servant Job." (Job 42:8). This leads us therefore to realise that God does not always punish the wicked "when he is about to fill his belly" (Job 20:23), as Zophar says.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to David |
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| V.29 Having drawn his picture, Zophar stepped back to admire it, and hold it up, so Job might see himself in it; using similiar language to that of Bildad (Job 18:21) This he said was a portion of a wicked man. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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20:4-5 Zophar accuses Job of being wicked and implies that Job should have understood that his prosperity would be short lived. He tells Job that he should have expected to loose all his goods because he was wicked. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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20:10 The mention here of ‘children’ may well be a snide comment to Job about his own children whoa re all now dead. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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Zophar rails against the rich who have made their wealth on the backs of the poor (v.19). He infers that Job is one of those wealthy individuals. Job was indeed a wealthy man (1:3). He, also, was God-fearing and upright (1:1). As such, he would not have gained his wealth at the expense of the poor. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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20:5-7 It is no comfort, even if it is true which is often is not, to say that the wicked do not prosper for ever when one is in deep despair. This is tantamount to saying ‘don’t worry, things will get better’. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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The friends of Job are eloquent in their rhetoric, and some of the things they point out are true. However, they miss two very important points. The first is that God is the only judge of man - man has no authority to judge another. God will determine with absolute accuracy if man has been faithful to Him. God knows that man is not perfect, as all men sin and are worthy of death (Rom 5:12). But, He is willing to forgive man if his heart and spirit are right (Psa 34:18). And so, the second point is that God is merciful to sinners. The scriptures abundantly show the mercy of the LORD, for example (Psa 118:2,3,4,29) The friends of Job accuse him of wickedness and have condemned him to eternal death. First they have no right, or capacity, to determine the spiritual quality of a man (Rom 2:1). Paul tells us that we cannot even judge ourselves (1Cor 4:3). And then, they certainly have no mandate to pass the sentence of death on an individual (Luke 6:37). Job and his friends are under the watchful eye of the LORD. Divine justice will prevail (Psa 37:32,33). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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20:27 Zophar has, whilst speaking in the third person – that is generally – has, in fact, been directing all his venom at Job. And now he appeals to God! God will judge! But his inference is that God will judge because Zophar knows that he is right in his assessment! Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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20:3 Zophar’s arrogance is that he claims that he cannot but answer because of his wisdom! How often do we think that we know the answer and open our mouths without thought. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| v.12
- Here are some other passages where the idea of God destroying with His
own sword is intimated: Psa.17:13
Isa.10:5, 13:5 Jer.47:6,7, 51:20-23. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| 2:3
The phrase 'meek of the earth' Psalm
76:9 Isaiah 11:4 Zephaniah 2:3 provides comfort to those who are struggling
to maintain His standards in a difficult environment. The Psalm shows,
in principle, that He is concerned for those who are 'meek' in that He
has already saved some in this position. Isaiah shows that His judgment
will be on behalf of those. Zephaniah shows a specific occasion - the
Babylonian invasion - which will manifest His care for the 'meek'. This
is why Jesus says 'blessed are the meek ...' Matthew
5:5 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.15
- Here we see yet again God's description of the pride of man. Notice this
is man making himself God - using the phrase 'I am, and there is none beside
me' - the worst kind of pride, but that which we see about us every day
in our current Godless century. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 2:3
In saying 'it may be that ye shall be hid
' the prophet makes a play
upon the name Zephaniah which means 'Hidden with or of God'. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :2
As Zephaniah spoke during the reign of Josiah we will not be surprised to
see similar language to what we find in his contemporary Jeremiah the 'fierce
anger' is also found in Jeremiah
4:8, 12:13, 25:37,30:24,51:45. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 2:8 Moab and Ammon do not escape that judgment of God because of their hatred of, and scorn for Israel in her calamity. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.3 The meek of the earth are urged to seek the LORD. Their meekness is rather a humility, not primarily towards man, but towards God. A bowing down before Him.1Pet 5:6 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| V.8-11 Since Israel have never yet fully occupied the territory of Moab and Ammon, this prophecy still awaits its great fulfilment. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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| Not only does Zephaniah pronounce punishment upon Judah, but he also prophesies destruction against the heathen nations. The reprieve of Nineveh and Assyria, resulting from Jonah's visit there, has gone, and they now face punishment (v.13). (Nineveh was destroyed in 612 BC). The punishment of the heathen nations will take place again when Christ returns. Zephaniah forecasts that event in Ch. 3 in keeping with the dual nature of Hebrew prophecies. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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| As God speaks through other prophets, now Zephaniah lists God’s punishments on Judah’s neighbours, in Zeph 2:4-15. The Assyrians who took Israel in the north captive, are also to be reduced to nothing. Nineveh will be desolate, and dry like a wilderness. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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2:13 Josiah reigned when the Assyrians were in the decline and Babylon was in the ascendancy. The prophecy of the overthrow of Assyria was fulfilled shortly after the time of the prophet. However he also predicts the overthrow of Babylon – Zeph 2:15 – using language similar to the contemporary prophet Jeremiah. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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2:15 In saying ‘I am and there is none else’ echoes the language that Isaiah spoke about Babylon – Isa 47:7 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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2:4-9 The judgement upon the surrounding nations is echoed by the later prophet – Jer 46, Jer 47 - 49 which was fulfilled by the Chaldeans over running the middle east. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Vs.1-3 Zephaniah has pronounced the judgments that will befall his people. Nevertheless, he exhorts the people to repent and turn to the LORD. As was pointed out in the Job comment, the LORD is merciful. If one repents of his sin, the LORD is willing to forgive. He is not anxious to declare judgment (2Pet 3:9). We are told to emulate the LORD (Matt 5:48). Perfect in the KJV means complete in moral character. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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2:9 To anyone who was aware of what had happened to Sodom and Gomorrah the way in which God spoke of Moab and Ammon would have been terrifying. The faithless Jew maybe would have rejoiced but the faithful Jew would have been saddened that things had got to such a state in those contrived that God was going to bring judgement upon them. How would we respond if we heard such pronouncement against countries in the world? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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| This chapter's theme is pride and arrogance. Notice how it is developed in these verses: 3, 8, 10, 15. Who do these words apply to, and what is the antidote in the chapter? Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Rob |
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2:10 Moab and Ammon’s problem? Simply put is was a lack of compassion for Israel. God had said – Gen 12:3 that he would bless those that cared for Israel and curse those who did not. Here we see God keeping His word. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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v. 1 - The word advocate here is the only occurrence outside the discourse
of John 14-16 of the Greek word 'parakletos', translated 'comforter' in
that speech. Clearly here the reference is to the resurrected Jesus. There
is much to be gained, I believe, from transferring this piece of knowledge
back to Jesus words to his disciples just before his death in John 14-16,
where he promises that a comforter will come, and thereby drawing the possible
conclusion that he was talking primarily of his own resurrection, rather
than the visit of the Holy Spirit to the disciples in Acts 2. A consideration
of passages like John
14:16-18 with this in mind, I think, is quite instructive. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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1:4 In saying 'that your joy may be full' John is reminding his audience of things that he had already recorded of what Jesus had said on the night he was taken captive. John 15:11 16:24 Look for other language from John's gospel - particularly chapter 13-17 in the rest of the letter. 2:4 The threefold phrase 'he that saith' 1 John 2:4,6,9 shows that there is a direct relationship between what we claim what we actually do and what we are. It is what we do, not what we say, which actually speaks of how we are. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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1:4 Many times in his letters John quotes the words of Jesus as recorded in John's own gospel 'that your joy may be full' quotes John 16:24 - words of comfort from Jesus on the last night of his life. 2:19 In saying that they 'went out' John likens those who left the ecclesia to Judas who 'went out' (John 13:30) Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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1:8 'walk in darkness' quotes John 8:12. The contrast is being drawn between those who follow their beliefs and those who do not. Consider :6-10 where John contrasts what we might say with what we might do. 2:1 'Advocate' is the Greek word 3875 translated 'comforter' four times John 14:16, 26, 15:26, 16:7 So we see again John is developing what he has written in his gospel. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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Jesus' sacrifice is a representative one and does not cover the world's sin by way of substitution (2:2). He does not love the world at large (2:15-17; John 17:9). He came to save those who would turn to him from the world (Gal 1:4; Titus 2:11-14). Christ is only interested in those who will do what He asks (John 15:14). To be accepted by Him demands three stages of obedience: belief; baptism; and walk (continued acceptable conduct). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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| 1:5 What light is in the natural world, that God, the source of even material light, is in the spiritual, the fountain of wisdom, purity, beauty, joy, and glory. As all material life and growth depends on light, so all spiritual life and growth depends on God. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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(1:5) In saying ‘God is light’ John develops a theme which he has in his gospel(John 1:4,9, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35,36) The light of God was manifest in the ‘face of Jesus Christ’ (2Cor 4:6) (2:19) Continuing last year’s comment on ‘went out’ Cain ‘went out’ from the presence of the Lord (Gen 4:16) showing that sin separates from God which is one of the themes of this letter. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| A friend once said "remember the three L's. God is light, God is love, God is life" - 1:5; 4:8; 5:20. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Charles |
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2:1 Christ is a comforter to His brethren (advocate means comforter). Advocate in the modern sense means one who pleads your cause to someone else. A lawyer, for example in a legal setting, pleads your case before a judge or jury. But that is not the role of Christ. He is not sitting at the right hand of His Father pleading our case to Him. True believers have direct access to Yahweh if we approach Him in the Name of Christ. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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1:5 - God is - Light - Strongs #5457 - absolute & underived, Greek word Phos, were we get the english word phosphorous from (something that shines in the dark) - so God is absolute, without beginning or end - interesting that when Jesus was spoken of in John 1:9 - that was the true light, this is the same greek word phos, so perfectly did he manifest God's character v.7 - 'if we walk in the light...we have fellowship, fellowship is predicated upon walking in the light - this would now be the 1st of 7 tests of true discipleship v.8 - 2nd test - false sanctity produces self-deception v.10 - 3rd test - false righteousness 2:4 - 4th test - false allegiance v.6 - 5th test - false association v.9 - 6th test - false love 4:20-21 - 7th - the test of genuine discipleship We cannot divorce doing the truth - from just believing the truth!phosphorous Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2005 reply to Peter |
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1:6-10 A progression ‘if we …’ these are not unrelated issues. They all relate to each other. Having assented to the first four we need to recgonise that ‘the motions of sin’ still work in us. To deny this is to lose our understanding of the sacrifice of Jesus. 2:3 John emphasises ‘seeing’ as we saw when commenting upon chapter 1. Now he tells us that keeping his commandments is the evidence that one ‘knows’ him. So it is not simply a matter of knowing facts about Jesus. It is a matter of knowing how he responded to situations and emulating that behaviour. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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| 2:15-17 The world that we live in differs very little from that of John. Ours is filled with violence and immorality. In many sectors of society; bribery, theft, and deceit are woven into the fabric of daily life. We must at all times remember that each one of us has been bought with a price, a life. We have committed ourselves to serving our Master. We all live in the world, but not of it. For if we were of the world, then we could not be followers of Christ. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to John |
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2:9-10 The contrast between attitudes towards our ‘brother’ shows how simple it is to measure our love for God. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| Until it was recently pointed out to us, we never realized that this letter has no salutation, also there is no direct mention of the writer. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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2:8 Jesus gave the ‘new commandment’ in John 13:34 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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1:8,10 We are sinners, and yet we can have fellowship with the Father and the Son (1:13). This is only possible if we confess our sins (1:9). And so, the theme of mercy and forgiveness that we have seen in the Job and Zephaniah readings continues. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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2:9-11 We shall be judged on how well we treat our brothers and sisters. If we willingly separate ourselves from the community of Christ, we cannot hope for mercy at the judgment seat. We are in equal danger if we remain in the community but do not take an interest in the physical or spiritual welfare of our brothers and sisters. 2:15,16 The factors involved in loving the world are enunciated here. Pride of life in the KJV really means pride in possessions, and is translated that way in the ESV. 2:22 There are those who outright deny that God or Jesus exist. But there are those who do not recognize God and Jesus as separate persons. They lump them together as a trinity, with the Holy Spirit, as being one person who has three parts. This idea is both ridiculous and blasphemous. Both atheists and Trinitarians are both qualified to be called the antichrist. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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1:11 The one who first hated his brother was Cain. When he had killed Abel he went out, that language of Gen 4:16 is picked up in ‘knoweth not whither he goeth’. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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2:11 Whilst we might think it is light that ‘blindeth’ our eyes John says it is ‘darkness’ which has that effect. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS Have you ever wondered how to build a relationship with Jesus? It was probably easy for his disciples because they were with him, could speak to him, see him and hear him over the time they were with him. They became good friends. But for us it is a little different. Jesus is not physically here with us, and yet essentially the same thing that made the relationship between Jesus and his disciples so strong is the same thing that can grow our relationship with him. John, one of his disciples, talks about coming to know Jesus. How do we do that? He says, "We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands." (1John 2:3) He continues, saying, "The man who says, 'I know him'; but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1John 2:4) In order to get to know Jesus we need to obey him. By doing the things he tells us to do, we begin to live the way he lived, and we start to understand who he is and what he is like. Jesus took it further than knowing. He said, "You are my friends if you do what I command." (John 15:14) So let us begin to build a relationship - a friendship - with Jesus by doing the things he tells us to do. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Robert |
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