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Reading 1 - Job  28
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v.28 - We cannot know everything (Deut.29:29) but there is wisdom in recognising that God does know everything, and that we will do when we have overcome the weakness of our current flesh to be granted that glorious position. Job's wisdom far surpasses that of many, and one large contributory factor was his suffering. Suffering brings about wisdom directly (James1:2-5).
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

Job continues

This chapter contains the things which Job said to instruct his friends. View what Job said against the background of the accusations that they have been making against Job.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.9 - Here we have a picture of the absolute power of God over creation, which we do well to dwell on in our meditations towards Him. We need to be aware that God is so great and so powerful and we cannot mess with Him. This will bring about the humility we need in order to be covered by His grace.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
28:16 Not really related to an understanding of the book of Job but it is useful to realise that the word 'valued' is the Hebrew word 'Selah' as found in the Psalms. So this use in a context helps us to understand the meaning of the word when it is used in the Psalms.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
28:18 When Job said 'the price of wisdom is above rubies' he is stating a principle which is later presented by Solomon (Proverbs 31:10,26)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Job 28:28. Man searches out many things, but cannot discover wisdom. Job here says that wisdom is to fear or reverence God, and depart from evil. Job has done this from the outset. Job 1:1,8.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to John
Job shows that he understands a lot about the natural world, in this chapter. He speaks of erosion by a river (Job 28:10). He also provides Solomon with a quote about wisom being more expensive than rubies
in Job 28:18(see Prov 3:15).

David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
V.13 Money can buy a lot of things, but certain things such as wisdom cannot be bought with money, not unlike Simon's desire to buy the power of the "Holy Spirit"(Acts 8:18). No man can fix a price upon them, as it is nowhere to be found in man's abode (Isa 38:11). Job implies both its valuable worth, and the impossibility of buying wisdom at any price.  
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

People of the world credit the happenings in the natural world to Mother Nature.  This mythical personification has its roots in ancient fertility goddesses.  The term Mother Nature should never be uttered by believers in Yahweh, the living God.  True believers, like Job, know that the LORD God is the one who has created all things, and continues to orchestrate all happenings in nature.  We will read confirmation of the LORD's creative and sustaining power in the latter chapters of Job.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

28:12  In asking where wisdom could be found Job is in a very direct way criticising his friends’ advise indicating that he thinks their advice is foolish.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

28:1-12 Job continues, like he did in chapter 26 to speak of the wonders of creation so that he can highlight the shortcomings of his friends saying ‘where shall wisdom be found’ – implying that his friends do not posses it.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

28:28   Job, in very poetical language, in this chapter has asserted that man does not know God’s wisdom and now he says that the fear of the Lord is wisdom – implying that though ‘man’ – that is his friends – do not know where wisdom comes from or what it is that he actually knows. This is a strong rebuke from Job of his friends.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

Job declares that man might be able to extract the mineral riches from the earth, but he is not able to discover the source of wisdom.

Wisdom rests with Yahweh alone and is not the domain of humankind. We are limited in our faculties, but Yahweh is beyond measure (Isa 55:9). The world thinks it is wise in its assumptions and presumptions, but Yahweh is not impressed (1Cor 3:19).

But, how does one acquire Godly wisdom? It first begins with a deep respect and acknowledgement that wisdom dwells only with Yahweh (Psa 11:10). The same attitude also belongs to knowledge (Prov 1:7). The acquisition of these qualities is gained through the Word of God (Psa 33:4; Prov 2:6). Yahweh has caused His Word to be written down so that we might learn wisdom, knowledge and understanding. It is to the scriptures that we must go to ascertain what Yahweh requires (Isa 8:20; Rom 15:4).

The Old and New Covenants of the scripture are equally important. Yahweh endorses the word of His Son (Matt 17:5). In turn, Jesus endorses the word of His Father (John 17:17). Also, Jesus endorses the word of those who will continue His work on earth (Luke 10:16). And so, the Bible is where we are to look for true wisdom. Let us make it a daily practice to read the Word.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

There is a little additional element to obtaining wisdom, and by the time God was finished with Job, he knew what it was. Suffering has the effect of buring away all the chaff, or impurities, in our knowledge. When our rigteousness is put to the test, as Job's was, we come out of the test with a renewed vision of what God is really like. This was the outcome for Job, as he said himself in v3, 5 "I didn't understand... but now my eye sees You". Job links this new wisdom with his near death experience by repeating the phrase "Death says 'we have heard a report of it with our ears' " (v22-23) again when his trial is over in 42:5 "I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear".

So whilst we may read the Bible a lot, know a lot, and be able to explain a lot; it is merely hearsay until we see God in action in our lives. This is why in Prov 3:1-14, in exactly the same context of the preciousness of wisdom, the writer goes on to say "do not despise the chastening of the LORD... happy is the man who finds wisdom."


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Rob

28:15 The word ‘valued’ is the word found as selah in the Psalms and as such helps us to understand what the word n the Psalms means – we are, where the word appears, being asked to ‘value’ the words – that is, maybe, meditate on the point being made in the Psalm


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
Job 28:5 - In recent years people have theorized that below the earth's surface is very hot; even more recently magma has been found by drilling only 2.5 km.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

28:11 Job’s comment about the floods being ‘bond’ is possibly a reflection on God’s words to Noah - Gen 9:15


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

Job 28:25 - that wind has weight was proven by science about 300 years ago.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles
Reading 2 - Zechariah 4 and 5
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5:4 - Here we have reference to the plague of leprosy, or at least we are pointed to consider that the two significances might be similar. Let us beware that we do not allow leprosy or thievery to enter our house. Lev.14:34-45
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

4:2 I saw seven golden candlesticks Revelation 1:12
4:2 and the seven golden candlesticks Revelation 1:20
4:2 seven candlesticks Revelation 1:20
4:2 candlesticks Revelation 11:4
4:2 seven golden candlesticks Revelation 2:1
4:3 the two olive trees Revelation 11:4
4:10 which run ... through the whole earth 2 Chronicles 16:9
4:14 standing ... the God of the earth Revelation 11:4

4:10 'The day of small things' reinforces the words of Haggai who said Haggai 2:3 'Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? [is it] not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?' and is an exhortation to appreciate that the work is God's and that whilst things might seem insignificant they should not be viewed with the eyes of the flesh.

5:2 'twenty cubits ... ten cubits' matches the size both of the porch before the house in Solomon's temple 1 Kings 6:3 and the altar of brass in Solomon's temple 2 Chronicles 4:1
5:9 wings like the wings of a stork - the stork is an unclean bird Leviticus 11:19
5:11 Shinar is Babylon see Genesis 11:2 Daniel 1:2.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
4:6,7 - Following on from the Job comment (2002) above we see here the strength of God is through His Spirit and that this extends well beyond the physical ability to shape and/or reshape the earth, but towards the shaping of mankind upon it too, if we are willing to be moulded.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

4:10 the eyes 'which run to and fro in the earth' quotes Daniel 12:14 and 2 Chronicles 16:9. The use of this language in 2 Chronicles shows that Zechariah is speaking of the all seeing nature of God.

Bring forth
Leviticus 14:45
The timber stones
Leviticus 14:45

The use of the language from the law of leprosy in a house shows that the Lord viewed the sinfulness of the people as rendering the house of God leprous. Jesus makes the same point (Matthew 24:3, Luke 21:6)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

4:14 There were two 'anointed ones' in Jerusalem at this time. Joshua the priest and in prospect Zerubbabel, the governor. So the heightened expectations of the people would look at these two men on hearing these words of Zechariah.

5:4 The timber and stones of Jerusalem were to be thrown down again - Matthew 24:3, Luke 21:6. So however the exiles looked at the events of this tie it most certainly was not the time of Messiah. The people seem not to have taken to heart the reproofs of the prophets who had told them that their sojourn in Babylon was because of their wickedness.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

Zech 4:1. This awakening points to the resurrection, showing that the fulfillment of the vision will be in the future when Zechariah will be raised from the dead.

Zech 4:9. This was true of the work of Zerubbabel in the past.(Ezra 6:15) and true also of the work of the Lord Jesus in the future.

Zech 4:14. We would suggest that these two anointed ones are the two branches and golden pipes that empty the oil into the lampstand.(v.12) They represent the immortalized redeemed gathered together. There are two such sons, because they have been drawn out of the families of the human race—Israel and the Gentiles.

Zech 5:1. Once again the prophet is aroused out of his sleep, and sees a new vision. This we would suggest shows that all these night visions were seen during one night. 1:18, 2:1, 4:1, 5:1, 5:5, 6:1.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to John

4:2 However we might try to understand the 'candlestick of gold' with its 'seven lamps' the returning exiles would doubtless have gone in their mind back to the lampstand that Moses made for the tabernacle and the lampstand that had stood in Solomon's temple.

5:11 Shinar is Babylon - Dan 1:2 - so there is no problem with identification here.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
4:7 The book of Ezra shows how that a great mountain of difficulty opposed the labors of Zurubbable in the building of the Temple. The surrounding nations bitterly resisted the Jews and were determined that their labors should fail.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

Although Zechariah's prophecies are largely messianic, care should be taken not to confuse references.  For example, the two olive trees either side of the lamp stand which represent two anointed ones (witnesses) (4:2,3,14) are not quite the same as the two olive trees; two candlesticks; two witnesses of Rev 11:3,4.  The reference in Zechariah is to Zerubbabel, the governor, who represents the kingly line of Christ; while Joshua represents the Lord's priestly line.  The two witnesses of Revelation represent the true church and a portion of the apostate church which, indirectly, helped the progress of the true church.

Wickedness, in the form of a woman, was transported to Babylon in a basket with a lead cover on top.  She would establish her power in Babylon (5:5-11).  Lead is poisonous, but is used to refine silver (Jer 6:29,30).  The wicked, poisonous agent Babylon would be used to refine the saints, those sanctified in Christ.  Peter warns of the trials ahead from the first century onwards (1Pet 4:12,13).  The latter-day Babylon will have to answer to the Lord for her misdeeds towards spiritual Israel (Rev 17:4-6; 18:21-24).  It should be noted that, at the time of the end, natural Israel will also be refined (Zech 13:9; Mal 3:3).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

This 5th Vision tells of the candlestick, (7 branched, I presume), which is automatically fed by pipes from two olive trees. The local meaning is given in Zech 4:1-10. The candlestick represents Israel, with its leader Zerubbabel. He was the civic leader. He was descended from the royal line, but as God had said that Zedekiah would be the last king until Jesus comes, (Eze 21:25-27), then Zerubbabel had to be mayor instead of king. The two olive trees could represent Jews & Gentiles, or men & women, or possibly something else.
Chapter 5 has two visions: a) Zech 5:1-4, which tells of the new law from God, portrayed as a flying scroll; and then Zech 5:5-11 tells of the wickedness which had been brought back from Babylon, which was to be transported back there, leaving Israel as a place of righteousness and peace.

 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

4:2 ‘what seest thou’ is a recurring question asked of Zechariah as he sees the vision. Ezekiel, before the return had seen a vision of a wonderful temple – Eze 47:6 – possible Zechariah’s mind would return to Ezekiel’s visions and be encouraged.

5:7,8 We might think of lead as just a way of describing something heavy. However ‘Lead’ is from time to time associated with judgment from God Exo 15:10, Eze 22:28


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
Zech 4 This vision of the world being illuminated by Divine light was revealed to encourage Zerubbabel, the builder, and his co-workers to be active in faith in the certain knowledge that their work was being supervised by the God of Abraham, through His eyes which roved to and fro through the whole earth. God knew of their problems, their strivings, and their hardships. God, here reveals to them how important their work is. It was an encouraging vision for both Zerubbabel and those working with him. It is likewise an encouraging vision for each one of us, as we patiently await the return of our king.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

4:1-14 the two who are the "word of the LORD" to Zerubbabel & the people at the time, are Haggai & Zechariah  Ezra 5:1, 6:14  - the two who are inspired by the Spirit & encourage Zerubbabel & the people in the building of the temple.

 


Wendy Johnsen [Nanaimo, BC, Canada]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Wendy

4:6 The people had returned with Ezra and had been involved in frenetic activity building the temple. However Zechariah reminds them that their achievements were not due to their might. This is something that we do well to remember in our own lives.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
 5:1-4 Up until this point in the readings of Zechariah's night visions, all have had in common the restoration of Israel's kingdom. In this vision we have a change of theme, but we are still looking at the general theme of purification. The old way must be put off. Both visions recorded in this chapter deal with the putting away of that which will not be acceptable in the kingdom age.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

 

Zerubbabel completed the temple by laying the headstone (capstone) (4:7-9).  This physical fact was a precursor of Jesus as being the capstone of the spiritual temple (Eph 2:20,21).  Note, also, that Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus (Matt 1:12,13).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

4:1   Zechariah – as if he had just wakened from sleep – is seeing things which will have their fulfilment after the resurrection which is typified by the sleep.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

5:1-3 The curse was written on a scroll. This implies that Yahweh’s will was written out for all to see. Therefore, this was irrefutable and could not be misunderstood, questioned nor debated. Today, we have the Bible as Yahweh’s credited Word.

The scroll was flying to indicate speedy dispensation. The dimensions of the scroll were the same as the temple porch from where the law was usually read (1Kin 6:3).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

4:9 The work of rebuilding has commenced and so now God gives encouragement to those who are building it in troublous times telling them that it will indeed be completed despite the opposition of the surrounding nations


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

4:6 The promise that the deliverance will not be achieved by man’s power echoes the words of the earlier prophet – Hos 1:7 – thus presenting an expansion of Hosea’s prophecy.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - Revelation  1 and 2
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2:28 - The morning star, which is given here to him that overcomes is a phrase used to describe Jesus himself in ch.22:16. He that overcomes is given the light of Christ. See also Luke1:78-79, 2Pet.1:19. Consider also the connection with Isa.60:1-3,19, Luke 2:32
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

1:1 Notice that it is the revelation 'which God gave unto him' So 'all scripture is given by inspiration of God...

1:3 If there is a blessing to all who read the Revelation then we all must be able to benefit from reading it. In the notes on Revelation in June I tried to show how that simple exhortation can be drawn from each chapter.

None of the ecclesias listed in chapters 2 and 3 exist any more. All of them had faults. Whilst they specify warning 'I will remove thy lightstand' Revelation 2:5 applied to Ephesus we can assume that each of the lightstands had served their usefulness and so passed off the scene.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

Chapter 1

clothed with ... and girt about the paps with a golden girdle
DAN 10:5
his eyes were as ... of fire
DAN 10:6
and his feet like unto fine brass
DAN 10:6
and his voice as the sound of many waters
DAN 10:6
fear not
DAN 10:12


Daniel 10 presents a picture of a glorious being giving instruction to Daniel. The use of language from Daniel 10 here shows that Daniel is speaking of the glorified Jesus.

Chapter 2

to him will I give power over the nations
PSA 2:8
and he will rule them with a rod of iron and as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers
PSA 2:9


Psalm 2 is used extensively in the New Testament to speak of the risen Christ and his power. The use of these two quotations here in Revelation 2 further develop this understanding of Psalm 2.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

The fact that Revelation starts with seven letters to seven ecclesias highlights the main point of the Revelation - to help brethren and sisters to live an acceptable life to God.

2:4 The 'first love' quotes Proverbs 4:6-7 'love principle' The subject is 'wisdom' so we conclude that the ecclesia had lost it's desire for God's wisdom


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

1:12,20 Like out comment on June 21st this year, the mystery of the lampstands is also explained here. We must be aware of and alert to the Biblical explanations of symbology in Revelation ad Scripture in general.

2:21 The way that God - and His son - respond to error and wrong behaviour is, often unlike us.  Notice that "space" was given for repentance. How often do we drive brethren into a corner when they have fallen? Surely we should allow them opportunity to repent. This is not achieved by taking a strongly adversarial approach and trying to extract a confession from the one in error.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

 

The Apocalypse (Revelation) is a complex book largely written in symbols. Therefore, to understand what is being said demands the interpretation of those symbols. There can be some difference of opinion over this, and so one should approach the work with humility. Care should be taken not to be dogmatic which could lead to bigotry. This attitude is neither acceptable to Christ nor conducive to learning.

The Apocalypse, written about 90 AD, was for true believers to know what would happen in the last days (from the end of the first century onwards through to the return of Christ) (1:1; 4:1). Therefore, to ascribe events that happened before 90 AD to the book, is to defy its own parameters. Most events foretold in the Apocalypse have already taken place in history, subsequent to 90 AD. This tells us that the return of Christ is close at hand. Reviewing the foretold events of the Apocalypse, in the light of history, will bolster our faith; and knowing that Christ will soon be here should spur us to put our house in order.

The seven spirits (1:4) are an echo to the seven eyes of our Zechariah reading from yesterday (Zech 3:9).

The Behold, he cometh with clouds of v.7 is a reference to Daniel's vision (Dan 7:13). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
2:7 The account in Genesis informs us that the tree of life could impart eternal life. It was denied Adam and his descendants; but will be made available to the second Adam (Jesus Christ) and his brethren.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
1:8 "Alpha" and "Omega" are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Heb 12:2 calls Jesus the "author and finisher of our faith". He not only "begets faith" in us, but keeps it alive to the extent that we maintain contact with him through the Word.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

1:11 Whilst the book of Revelation is recorded for all of us it was first designed and inspired for the seven churches which received the very specific letters. Therefore any reading in Asia must have been able to be edified by what he read in the book.

2:24  ‘put upon you no other burden’ quotes Acts 15:28 – another link with the council decision in Jerusalem.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

 

The spirit addresses all ecclesias throughout time (2:17).  All who overcome the world will, like Jesus, be given eternal life (Matt 10:22; John 16:33; 1John 3:2).  They will partake of the hidden manna, Jesus, who is the living bread available to His own, but concealed from the world (John 6:58).  They will be given a white stone.  The stone is a smooth pebble that acts as a counter - a token of acquittal (from the hold of sin and death).  It is white (Gr. leukos = light) because eternal life is possible through Jesus who is the light of the world (John 8:12).  They are the New Jerusalem and shall be given a new name (Isa 62:1; Rev 3:12; 21:2).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Michael

2:2 In saying’ I know thy works’ Jesus is making the point contained in Psa 1:6. There were faithful and unfaithful brethren and sisters in Ephesus. Their behaviour would determine the way in which God would view them.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

1:7     In speaking of Jesus ‘coming with clouds’ our minds are directed to Dan 7:1 where Daniel, in vision, sees future world events from God’s perspective. That is the nations are no better than beasts.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

1:16 The KJV translation is misleading when it says: And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father. There is one king, Jesus. Those accompanying him, in the Kingdom to come, will have a priestly role. The ESV has a better translation when it says: and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father.

1:13-15 John had seen the Lord in His glorified form before, at the Transfiguration (Matt 17:1,2).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

 

2:6,15  The Lord hated the Nicolaitans.  Scofield says that this word comes from the Greek words nikao meaning to conquer, and laos meaning laity.  There was a usurping of power and control of one group over the rest of the ecclesia.  A priestly order or clergy was developing which would blossom into the hierarchical system of worship we see today in apostate Christendom.  This is in direct contradiction to Christ's commands (Matt 23:8). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael
Pergamos (Pergamum) (2:12) was founded by the Greeks and derives its name from pergamene meaning parchment for which the city was famous in producing.  It became an important, rich Roman city and had the reputation of being the first city in Asia.  There were many splendid temples dedicated to the gods Zeus (Jupiter), Athene, Apollo, and Aesculapius.  The characteristic idol of Aesculapius was a serpent.  There was much opposition to Christianity in Pergamos and thus the title Satan's seat (2:13) is apt. The ecclesia at Pergamos had both faithful members (2:13) and those who followed un-Christ like behaviors (2:14,15).  It is interesting to note that the Lord does not suggest that the faithful members leave the ecclesia and their wayward brethren at this point.  Attempt to influence rather than abandon should be the first consideration.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

2:17 The ‘new name’ is spoken of by the prophet – Isa 62:2 – so we see here a fulfilment of the wonderful words of the prophet


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

Revelation after discussing the seven churches in the first three chapters goes into language which is heavy on symbolism and as Rev 1:1-3 explains, it is a prophecy.

One interpretation, which has been around for centuries, is the continuous historical. The continuous historical is probably the best known interpretation. A proponent of the continuous historical was the English Bible Scholar Joseph Mede (1556-1639). Writing about 150 years ago, Dr John Thomas was a more recent proponent. One of the references frequently quoted in support of the continuous historical is Amos 3:7 "Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets." Critics question to what extent prophetic detail need be assumed to fulfill the intent of Amos 3:7. Other critics suggest that such detailed prophetic interpretations of historical events are possibly lacking in accuracy and/or require periodic revision in the light of seemingly more spiritually significant recent events. The continuous historical takes the approach that Revelation is a continuous prophetic unraveling of spiritually significant history starting soon after 96AD (the approximate date many feel the Revelation to John was given/compiled) till the the future establishment of the millenial Kingdom on Earth.

A second interpretation of Revelation is the futurist view which tends to crowd much prophecy in what still remains future. A.D. Norris was one of its 20th century proponents. Some of the criticisms are it leaves centuries of relative prophetic darkness and much of it hasn't soon taken place after 96AD. Also, some critics would note there is an interpretation of Jesus' birth Rev 12:5 which would be prior to 96AD. The continuous historical would interpret Rev.12:5 as referring to Constantine. Proponents of the futurist interpretation would suggest that the account of Jesus' birth prior to 96AD provides background context and thus doesn't violate the prophetic validity.

A third interpretation of Revelation is the preterist view which has the Revelation given to John prior to 70AD with much of the prophecy (i.e. Seals and Trumpets) fulfilled prior to the 70AD fall of Jerusalem although there are some lesser elements of the continuous historical and futurist views such as the last days and the second coming of Christ. H.A. Whittaker was a 20th century proponent of the preterist interpretation which also has its critics.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

Where can we find resources on various interpretations of Revelation so that with prayerful study we can be better informed?

There are a number of venues containing books on or promoting the continuous historical interpretation. There are books such as "Eureka" (5 volumes) by Dr John Thomas , "Thirteen lectures on the Apocalypse" by Robert Roberts, "The Book of Revelation" (Expositor Series) by H.P. Mansfield, "The Apocalypse and History" by W.H. Boulton, "The Revelation - Which Interpretation?" by Graham Pearce, etc.

A book on the futurist interpretation is called "Apocalypse for Everyman" by Alfred Norris. It is freely available online. If you do a google.com search for "apocalypse for everyman" the first listing (as of this posting) is "- Apocalypse For Everyman - Carelinks - www.carelinks.net". This listing contains the book in its entirety.

A book on the preterist interpretation is "Revelation - A Biblical Approach" by H.A. Whittaker. As I live in the USA, I found it locally available at the Detroit Christadelphian Book Supply under the category of controversial subject matter.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles
Rev 2:26,27 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Gospel concerns God's Kingdom
The Gospel preached by Jesus and the Apostles concerns the Kingdom of God.
2. Invitation for men to participate
Matt 25:34, Luke 12:32, 1Thess 2:12, James 2:5, 2Tim 4:1,8, 2Pet 1:10,11, Rev 2:26,27
For more about the Gospel concerning God's Kingdom go to Matt 4:23 

Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

Rev 5:9-10 First Principles>Sure Mercies of David>Government
The rulership of God's Kingdom is not limited to the twelve apostles. The faithful will play a part as well.
For more information about the government of God's Kingdom, go to Matt 19:28


Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

2:23 We are ‘justified by faith’ –Rom 5:1 – so the ‘works’ that a man is judged by are works of faith – that is the life of the believer will be informed by his understanding of the gospel.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter