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| v.7
This is all to do with giving God the glory. Whatever we do, and whenever
we do it, it is in His strength, by definition, as there is no other power
in the universe. However, recognising and humbly accepting that our achievements
are not our own is quite a different thing! Psa.92:4,
109:27, 111:2, Ecc.8:17 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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Elihu continues 37:1-13
Elihu observes that God works through nature Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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chapter sees the end of Elihu's speech, and we note that Job is not given
the chance to reply. God takes over the discussion now and brings Job to
his senses. It is as if God has been waiting for the opportunity to do this,
but it was not provided by the older men. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 37:19
And so now Elihu seems to taunt Job asking him to teach them (Elihu and
the three friends) how they should understand how to speak with God. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 37:1-13
The fact that God later calls Job to look at aspects of His work of itself
does not give credence to the words of Elihu. To just ask the questions
does not prove that Elihu was taking the correct approach to Job's problems.
We have already seen in the earlier chapters that he took to himself a status
that he had not been given. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| Job 37:14. Elihu pleads for Job’s attention. Job had demanded God to give him an answer. Man must learn to submit to the fact that what ever God does is for man’s good. Job, like us could not explain the wondrous works of God. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2003 reply to John |
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| POUNDING HEARTS "At this my heart pounds and leaps from its place." (Job 37:1) Elihu found that God's magnificent creation stirred his emotions like nothing else. He only had to look around him to be awestruck by the power and majesty of the Creator. As he urged Job later, saying, "Listen to this, Job; stop and consider God's wonders," (Job 37:14) so we should stop and consider God's wonders ourselves. Elihu began by looking up. Maybe we should do the same as we gaze at the vastness of the heavens, the ethereal blue of the sky, the beauty of the sunrise and the sunset - new pictures painted by God for us to marvel at every day. We can see the expanse of his power as we look up into space and see the millions of stars he has created in glorious beauty, shining in the blackness on the night sky. And when we see clouds we can be impressed by the sheer volume and weight of water that God suspends above the earth. Who has not failed to be impressed by the thunder and lightening of a storm - thunder that can be heard all over the land, and lightening that lights up the whole earth with one almighty flash. And what about the rain, the snow or the hot sun and the way that God can disrupt the whole of man's affairs by floods, snowstorm , earthquake or heatwave... May our hearts also pound and leap from their places as we stop to consider God's wonders. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Robert |
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| V.13 Disasters are to improve us, more than to prove us. We receivr not according to our merits, but by God's grace. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| Elihu concludes his speech by saying how great God is. Elihu definitely had a good understanding of God in nature. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to David |
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Vs.11-13 show how He can display His love or His anger through using the same natural phenomenon. He can bring the rain to grow the crops we need for sustenance. He can also use the same medium for destruction. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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37:5 On the one hand Elihu says that it is not possible to comprehend the words of God yet on the other hand he is telling Job what his problem is – presumably because he understands God’s words! Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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37:14 Having spoken about the inability to understand God’s involvement in the way that things work in the natural world Elihu now suggests to Job that he ought to reflect on that, implying that Job cannot understand the way that God works in the lives of men – but then claims that he knows how He works! Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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37:8 It seems that Elihu is referring to animals which hibernate in winter so we have to conclude that Job was living in a less hospitable climate than that in Israel especially as there are many references to snow and frost in the book of Job. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Elihu invites job to consider the majesty of Yahweh. He asks Job whether he had been a participant in creation with Yahweh (v.18). This question is a precursor to the questions that Yahweh, Himself, will shortly ask Job. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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37:15-16 Now Elihu stands in God’s position, so to speak, asking Job whether he knows what God does. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| v.8
- here we have the essence of God manifest in Jesus - the house of David
is clearly Zion or in the spiritual sense Christ, and here we are told it
will be as God. It is a wonderful picture when taken with the rest of scripture.
Psa.2:6-7,
110:1-2, Isa.7:13-14, 9:6-7, Jer.23:5-6 etc. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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12:6
Governors ... in a sheaf Obadiah 18 12:2 Jerusalem being a cup of trembling was a stark contrast to how she had been in the past and during the rebuilding of the walls and the temple. The adversaries of Judah and Benjamin were able to cause the inhabitants of Jerusalem to tremble. This message therefore, must have encouraged the inhabitants of the city. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.3
- Again we have Jesus language used of Zion. Here it is to be a burdensome
stone, which indeed Jesus was to those who did not understand. Isa.8:14,
1Pet.2:8 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 12:3
introduces a recurring key phrase 'in that day' seen in the rest of the
book (12:3
4 8 9 11 13:1 2 14: 6 13 20 ) We do well to realise that the chapters
are related to each other by this phrase. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 12:10
The 'only son' 03173 is in fact a reference
to Jesus. Consider how the word is used in other parts of Scripture. Genesis 22:12,12.16 Amos 8:10 Psalm 22:20 'darling' Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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ZECH. 12. As we come to the final section of Zechariah’s prophesy we see three themes being continually repeated. Zech 12:11. A special day was set aside for the mourning of Josiah. (2Chron 24:26) This suggests there will be a specific ceremony of mourning when Israel humbles itself before Christ and seeks divine help. (Eze 16:60-61) John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2003 reply to John |
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| 12:2,6 The repeated 'people round about' would speak to the returning exiles of those adversaries who sought to thwart their work in rebuilding the temple and then the city of Jerusalem. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.12-14 Though Zechariah says the land shall mourn, his concern is with Jerusalem, and more particularly with the royal line, as David's mourning had been. When the royal family mourns all the nation mourn with them. The royal house (David and Nathan) and the priestly tribe (Levi and Shimel) will lead the national repentance. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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When Jesus returns, He will save His people from those who have invaded Israel and Jerusalem (vs.8,9; see also Eze 38,39). The Jews will recognize Jesus as the Messiah (v.10). Before Jesus destroys the invading enemy, many Jews will have be killed and much destruction will have occurred. When relief is finally realized, there will be a great mourning for the loss (vs.11-14). This will be reminiscent of the mourning given to Josiah (Hadad-Rimmon is a place in the Valley of Megiddo where the people mourned the death of Josiah) (2Chron 35:22-25). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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Jerusalem will be “a burdensome stone for all people”, (Zech 12:3). This has happened. Now their position is decided politically as to whether they have many Jewish people in their country, such as America which needs the Jewish vote. Jerusalem is of-course to be the centre of the new world government. The new world order will require the complete acceptance of King Jesus, which will mean that the Jews mourn at first, but rejoice later.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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12:4 We are reading about God saving Israel and putting her enemies to flight. Israel had been told – Num 28:28 – that they would be smitten with madness if they were faithless. Now we see their enemies being struck I the same way. Israel, by now, have turned to God. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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| 12:8 Israel, in the past were placed in the care of angels (Exo 23:20), chief of whom, as far as this authoriy over the nation was Michael (Dan 10:21). But, the work of angels will be taken over by the saints in the coming age (Heb 2:5). In leading the nation to war, and later ruling them in peace, the saints will be "as the angel of God before them" John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to John |
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12:2 Having spoken about a regathering the prophet now speaks of yet another time of tribulation for Jerusalem. The people might have thought that was going to be just another accident of history. However the repeated use of ‘I’ in the rest of the chapters forces the recognition that the events that are to happen are at God’s instigation. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| 12:7 Judah, here is not just the tribe of Judah, but the nation of Israel. When we go back to the days of Zerubbabel and Jeshua we can clearly see that all the tribes of Israel are represented. (Ezra 6:17) John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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V.1 Zechariah confirms the creative power of the LORD as Elihu had in the Job reading. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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12:6 The governors of Judah’ devouring ‘all the people’ is a fulfillment of what God promised through Obadiah - 1:18 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Vs.12-14 The mourning for the Jesus will be shown by every faction of Jewish society. Three comprehensive classes are described. First the kingly class: from David to Nathan implies from the king down to his younger son (2Sam 5:14). Then, there is the priestly class: from Levi to Shimei implies from the highest priestly order to the lowest (Num 3:18). Then, all families that remain. They shall all mourn for the Lord, both male and female. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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12:3 Notice that with the use of the word ‘I’ God is making it clear that he is the one that makes Jerusalem a burdensome stone. Given that this is so we should realise that no matter how men try they will not be able to resolve the middle east problem. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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Messianic prophesy of Christ being pierced but with no bones broken; the scars of his crucifixion will be visible when he returns erasing any question that Jesus is the messiah - Zech 12:10;13:6;Psa 22:16-18;34:20;John 19:31-34,37. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Charles |
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I CAN ONLY IMAGINE Mercy Me sings a song called, "I can only imagine." It speaks about the time when we will finally meet Jesus face to face and asks us how we think we will react. I can only imagine what it will be like when I walk by your side. I can only imagine what my eyes will see when your face is before me. I can only imagine. Surrounded by your glory, what will my heart feel? Will I dance for you Jesus or in awe of you be still? Will I stand in your presence or to my knees will I fall? Will I sing Hallelujah? Will I be able to speak at all? I can only imagine. Zechariah leaves the Jews in no doubt as to how they will react to the return of Jesus. "They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. On that day weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves." (Zech 12:10-12) We need to ask ourselves how we will react at the time we come face to face with Jesus. Will we meet him in fear, rejection or love - or a bit of each? Will there be tears of regret over the way we have lived our present lives? Or will there be joyful praise for the strength, forgiveness and guidance we have received from the Lord? We can only imagine. But if we want to imagine or be sure of a better scenario, we can change the way we live. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Robert |
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12:1 The language here quotes the words of the prophet – Isa 42:5– encouraging the people to see their return from Babylon as the fulfillment of prophecy. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| v.13
- Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord. Not all the dead, but
those dead who die in the Lord. Only those die in the Lord who are in the
Lord when they die. The Christian life, begun by faith and baptism into
Christ (Rom.
6:3), is a life in Christ. To be assured of this blessed death one must
live a Christian life. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| 14:5
To be found without guile and having no fault is a twofold thing. We are
to ensure that we have no guile in our lips Psalm
32:4 34:13 1 Peter 2:1 1 peter 3:10. Such individuals are those who
will be blameless. Such individuals will be presented 'faultless'- same
word - before the throne of God. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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10:1-10 The sweet book which became bitter in the belly catches the circumstances of Ezekiel 3:1-14. The word of God is sweet as honey Psalm 119:103. However the message which it delivers to those who are rebellious is bitter. 11:2 The treading under foot of the court by the gentiles draws on Luke 21:24. It is a period of the desolation of the things of God. However just as Jerusalem will be restored so will be the fortunes of the nation of Israel for 'all Israel shall be saved ' Romans 11:26. This will happen when 'the fullness of the gentiles is come in'. Romans 11:15. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 14:4 following the "lamb" catches the command of Jesus. A typical example or many is Matt 16:24 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.3 The time of rejoicing and of singing for thr redeemed is yet to come. Notice how the sighing of Habakkuk was turned into singing as he lifted his eyes from troubles of his day to the glory that shall yet flood the earth.Hab 1:2, Hab 3:18 As the sighing of Israel in Egypt Exo 2:23 was turned into singing on the day of deliverance.Exo 15:1. So it will be with the redeemed in the future age. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| V.4 To follow Christ is to do his commandments. Those who follow him in his humility will follow him in all his glory when the day of his enthronement on Mount Zion arrives. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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| There are two classes of worshippers: those who worship Yahweh in spirit and in truth (John 4:23,24); and those who follow the gospel of error (Gal 1:6,7). The true followers of Christ will be redeemed (v.3), while those who have followed the apostate system of worship (v.9) will be destroyed (v.10). Notice that each class of worshipper is marked in the forehead; the redeemed (v.1); the condemned (v.9). Let us make sure that we bear the marking of salvation. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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14:9 There are many suggestions as to what the ‘mark of the beast’ actually is. There is no doubt it is the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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14:3 The ‘new song’ echoes what the redeemed sang in Rev 5:9 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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Again the LORD, in our third reading, is endorsed as the creator of all things (v.7). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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14:19 The treading of God’s enemies as in a winepress contrasts with Israel’s fortunes at the hand of the Babylonians – Lam 1:15 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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V.4 The true followers of Christ are called virgins, those not having defiled themselves with women. This is a reference to following the Truth and not the spirit of error. The Roman church is the apostate system which is characterized as the latter-day Babylon. Amongst other things, she is called the MOTHER OF HARLOTS (Rev 17:5). She carries the spirit of error and, anyone acceding to her ways, has committed spiritual harlotry with her. V.8 Babylon will, of course, be destroyed by the Lord Jesus when he returns to earth. What is of startling interest is the degree of destruction He will render. In v.20 His destructive rage will extend to 1600 stadia. This measurement approximates to 200 miles. The patrimony of St. Peter, as claimed by the Catholic Church, extends 200 miles from Rome. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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14:11 the ascending smoke echoes what Abraham saw when Sodom was destroyed – Gen 19:28 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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14:11 When the ‘recompense’ of ‘Zion’ is seen – Isa 34:8 the ‘smoke’ of her enemies will ‘go up for ever’ which is echoed here in Revelation. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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