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Reading 1 - Exodus  22
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v. 28 - The 'gods' here are the judges referred to in v. 8,9. We have come across this before, and it is quite surprising the way that scripture uses this idea, to the ultimate praise of the overall ruler of the earth of course. Consider these passages: Ps.82:1-7, 138:1, John 10:34,35. Any ruler was a 'god', so we can include Ex.21:17. Regarding cursing the ruler of our people, consider examples in 1Sam.24:6,10, 26:9, Eccles.10:20, Rom.13:2-7.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.18 - Deut.18:10-11 expands this thought further. There has to be a lesson here for us to avoid any involvement with those who make claims about spiritualism or devil worship. The whole concept of this is so abhorrent to God that we should simply accept His judgement, and not even show an interest in these things. This is not just what we do either, it is what we choose to read, listen to, or watch as well. We must make informed decisions not to have anything to do with these things if we are to please God.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
The way in which the wrongs are dealt with in this chapter is designed to teach man that he 'owns' his own problems. So the person who accidentally sets fire to his neighbours field is still responsible for his actions :6. In like manner we should appreciate that we are responsible for our own actions. Whilst we would never try to attribute our wrongs to the 'Devil' we can easily try to pretend that the matter does not need to be addressed. This chapter clearly shows that this cannot be so.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:21 That they had been strangers in Egypt is given as the reason why they should not vex the stranger teaches a powerful lesson which Jesus develops in the parable to the two debtors (Luke 7:21)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

Exodus 22 - The people of God should ever be ready to show kindness and mercy, according to the spirit of these laws. We answer to God, not only for what we do maliciously, but for what we do heedlessly. Therefore, when we have done harm to our neighbour, we should graciously make restitution, though we might not be compelled by law to do so.

These scriptures lead us to remember, that if the grace of God has indeed appeared to us, then it has taught us, "that denying ungodliness and wordly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world,"Titus 2:12. The grace of God teaches us, that as the Lord is our portion, there is enough in Him to satisfy all our desires.

Exodus 22:2-4 - If a thief, in breaking into a dwelling in the night, was slain, the person who slew him did not incur the guilt of blood; but if the same occurred in daylight, the slayer was guilty in accordance with Exo 21:12. The distinction appears to be based on the fact that in the light of day there was a fair opportunity of identifying and apprehending the thief.

Exodus 22:22 - "Afflict" - 6031 Heb. 'to browbeat' - A word including all cold and contemptuous treatment. See how the Father feels Deut 10:18. Contrast the blessing in Deut 14:29.

Exodus 22:21-28  In this section, the Father reveals His abhorrence of abuse... in any form. And when His Son, the Lord Jesus walked among men, He too, took the leaders of His day to task over the abuse that they were perpetrating in the name of religion - cp Zech 7:9-10; Matthew 23.

God's laws for Israel of old, were written to instruct His children in all ages. The duties required are, not the keeping of fasts and feasts and the offering of sacrifices, but doing justly and loving mercy, which tend to the public welfare and peace. The law of God lays this restraint upon our heart, so that before thinking of ourselves, we might think on others.


Cliff York [Pine Rivers (Aus)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Cliff
22:28 It is so easy to fault those who have the charge over us. We see it all the time with politicians. Whatever one party suggests or does the ‘opposition’ opposes, as if there is some virtue is disagreeing with what is being said, whatever it is. We should not take part in this in the world’s political scene nor should we grumble about ecclesia decisions. This is not to suggest that those who make decisions in the ecclesia are ‘gods’ – rather the principle of regarding those charged with decision making should be given some respect.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
Exo 22:21  Learn from your own experiences, do unto others as you would have them do to you. Do what you can to change the situation. Psa 82:3; James 3:17
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

The commandment not to vex a stranger (v21) should have told the heathen that God’s people lived by God’s law. Visitors should be respected, not harmed. There was to be no xenophobic zealots in God’s land.


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David

 

These laws were designed to promote good societal order.
They were based on the underpinnings of respect for life and property.  The ethic of personal responsibility for individual action is paramount.  Restitution is a key ingredient in justice and equity.  Contrast western society today whose laws claim this Judeo basis.  Lawyers, in an adversarial system, clamor to win cases as a matter of argument not truth.
There is a direct correlation between the price of legal representation and success. Throw in plea bargaining and such legislation as Human Rights, and the justice system scarcely resembles its origin.
The decay of societal standards as described in 2Tim 3:1-4 is aided and abetted by modern jurisprudence.  The return to Godly justice will only occur when the Lord Jesus returns to set up his Kingdom (Psa 89:14, Rev 19:15).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
Zacchaeus refered to Exo 21:1, I feel, when he offered to restore that which he taken fourfold - so showing that he had made a study of the right responses for one that desired to serve. Luke 19:8
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter

22:22    There were going to be many widows and fatherless children by the end of the wilderness journey – though Israel were not to know this when the law of Moses was given. Israel wandered in the wilderness until the ‘men of war’ died off. Deut 2:14


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

22:10-11 That a man’s word that he had not taken the ox he claimed had been stolen or had died demonstrates the emphasis God places upon integrity. The man’s word was his guarantee. Is our word our guarantee? Are we amongst those whose word is their bond - Psa 15:4?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
6 The fire here, we would suggest is referring to the practice of setting fire to that which remains after harvest. This would prevent the ravages of rodents, it is also considered as a good preparation of the ground for next years crop. The lighting of such a fire could be very dangerous, considering that everything could be in a parched condition.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

22:31   The holiness that required an Israelite not to eat ‘that which dieth of itself’ but give it to the gods is the basis for Jesus’ teaching in Matt 7:6


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.25 Today, Jewish communities give interest-free loans to their members.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

22:11 Of course the pronouncing of an oath is no guarantee that the claim made about the animal is actually true. However God is teaching Israel that they must be able to be trusted. The integrity of each and every Jew was to teach them the integrity of their Gd. When He spoke He could always be relied upon. IN like manner we are to be utterly reliable. We offer to do something then we do it even f later it is not convenient to us to do it – Psa 15:4


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
Exo 22:28;Acts 23:5.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

22:5 This injunction about not lending money out on usury is seen to be violated in Israel’s history, for example in the days when Israel returned from Babylon – Neh 5:7


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

Consider the importance of this chapter in terms of the Israelite nation. It is only the second chapter of commandments after they have been made a new nation by God at Sinai. So they are listening carefully to Moses as he expounds God's laws to them. Laws to govern their new nation in their new land of promise.

We read in v22-24 and v25-27 that God will personally protect widows, the fatherless and the poor, and they should have taken great notice of this. Note the stark warning: "my wrath will become hot, and I will kill you with the sword".

So when God's righteous laws were cast aside, the widow, poor and fatherless would suffer. That's because much of this law exists to protect this group in particular. As you read on in the old testament account of Israel, notice how often God makes good on His promise to punish them when His laws are cast aside, and the poor suffer as a result (e.g. Eze 22:6-8). So God does not punish because He is vindictive, but because He is protecting the needy.


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Rob
Reading 2 - Psalms 75 and 76
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75:10 - The use of the word 'horn' in this context is quite common in scripture, but has fallen completely out of use in modern times (at least in English). It is the normal word for a horn - either an animal's horn or one that you blow to make a sound. It seems, by its usage to refer to a person's (or nation's) well-being, maybe their self-confidence. Here are some passages to consider. Jer 48:25, Zech 1:20-21, Psa 89:17, 92:10, 148:14, Luke 1:69
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
76 v.2 - When we read passages like this our minds go to Melchizedek and the piresthood to which Jesus belonged and to which we aspire. These passages will be helpful in consolidating the point made here: Gen.14:18, Heb.7:1-2, Psa.132:13-14, 2Chr.6:6. Isa.12:6
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
75 v.6 Respect of persons often has as it's motivation self advancement. Here the Psalmist shows that it is God who blesses. We must be careful to think about how we respond to others and to appreciate that God is in control in our lives.

76 v.12 Whilst we recognise that 'the most high ruleth in the kingdom of Men' Daniel 4:17 it is worth noting that this teaching is found elsewhere in Scripture.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

75:7 In telling us that God 'putteth down one and setteth up another' The Psalmist is stating what God himself says (Daniel 2:21)

76:1 We are so used to talking of Judah - the two tribes and Israel - the ten tribes - that we pass over this distinction in the Psalm without thinking that the Psalm was written before the division! But actually the split was already appearing before David was on the throne in Jerusalem. (1 Samuel 11:8, 17:52 18:16,)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

75:10 Whilst in the Psalm David has been stressing that promotion and judgement is from God he now says that he will ‘cut off’ the wicked. So David must have seen that he was doing the work for God.

76 - The way in which this Psalm speaks of the majesty of God and the way that both Israel and Judah worship and know God indicates that the Psalm speaks of the kingdom when Christ will reign from Jerusalem.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

Psalm 75   A song which expresses thanks for God's Power and Authority in the earth. Confidence is expressed in God's Judgement to come.

Psalm 76  This song extols the strength of Israel's God. It speaks of a time when God will be feared among all nations.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

The word congregation (75:2) is from the Hebrew word mo'ed which we saw translated yesterday as synagogues (74:8).
 
75:8 The cup of mixed (spiced) wine given by Yahweh is a figure of retribution meted out to the wicked (cf. Jer 25:15-16).

It is interesting to note that mixed (spiced) wine was refused by Christ on the cross (Mark 15:23).  Did He refuse this symbolic cup of wrath as a sign of His Father's acceptance?


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
Psa 76:2 is a useful verse to tell us without doubt that Salem is the same as Zion, or Jerusalem. This is useful in Gen 14:18 where Melchizedek is called King of Salem. It leaves us in no doubt that he was therefore a very early king of Jerusalem.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David
75:2  Although this comes over as the words of the Psalmist himself, the presence of the word 'Selah' at the end of v.3 indicates that these are words worthy of great meditation.  I suggest therefore that the Psalmist is quoting something that God has already said about Himself.  Oh to be part of that congregation that God will receive.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter

75:8      The cup which God holds contains both blessing and cursings. Blessings for the faithful and cursings – the dregs – for the wicked.

 

76:6     The destruction of Egypt’s army in the Red SeaExo 15:1,21 –was an example of what the Psalmist is speaking of.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter

76:7 God is to be feared because He is able to deliver His people and destroy His enemies. This is the point that the Psalmist is making having spoken of the demise of Egypt in the sea in the previous verse.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

76:11 ‘Vow and pay’ – how easy it is to make promises and then not keep them. Solomon has instructive words to say on this point in Ecc 5:2-4


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

75:4,5 The horn (Hebrew keren) is a symbol of strength, power and glory. But, the phrase to lift up the horn means to act in pride (Zech 1:12).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

75:5 The ‘horn’ is often used to speak of individuals. Clearly here is speaks of their own opinion of their status. The phrase ‘speak not with a stiff neck’ confirms this.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

76:10 The Psalmist is saying that God will not execute His full anger – He will be restrained. An example of similar language can be found in 2Chron 12:7


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - Mark  8
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v. 23-25 - There are a few other occasions that suggest that seeing the light is a two stage process. This makes for an interesting theory, I feel. Just as the New Covenant follows the old, the baptism by Spirit follows the baptism by water, the crossing of the Jordan into the promised land followed the crossing of the Red Sea into the wilderness. Consider Judges 9:36, Isa.29:18 - note obscurity first and then darkness, as if the eyesight improves with time. Isa. 32:3, 1Cor.13:9-12.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.3 One wonders how long we would be willing to go without food to listen to good exposition of the Word.
v.8 the baskets were large enough for a man to fit in because it is the same word used to speak of the basket in which Paul was let down the wall at Damascus. Acts 9:25
v.11 The request for a 'sign' from Jesus was a repeated feature of those who opposed Jesus. As if they were not willing to accept that the healings that Jesus did were real proof of his claims. Matthew 12:38 16:1 Luke 11:16 John 2:18 6:30
v.13 I doubt that Jesus had gone over to Dalamnutha just to tell the Pharisees that he was not going to give them a sign. That Jesus 'sighed deeply in his spirit' highlights utter frustration, I suggest. I suspect that Jesus did not stay and preach in Dalmanutha because the response, tainted by the Pharisees, was so opposed to his message. We can learn from this. It only takes a few dissenting or apathetic voices to dampen the hearts of the enthusiastic. We must take care that we are not one of those dissenting voices.

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
:10 this visit to 'Dalmanutha' is only mentioned in Matthew 15:39 (as Magdala) but is not mentioned in either of the other gospel records. Whilst Mark tells us [:11] that it as the Pharisees that tempted Jesus Matthew [16:1] informs us that the Sadducees were there as well.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:22 We may have noticed that Mark often tells us where Jesus went. There is value in just mapping these locations on a map so that we can see the extent of Jesus' travels and where he spent most of his time.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD

"What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his own soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" (Mark 8 v 36 - 37) The answer to these questions will point us to the answer to life.

With so many people searching for fulfillment in any way they can, they devote themselves to getting the most out of life. But in this search they either miss or avoid what they are really looking for. Riches, possessions, fitness, power, fame, good looks or lifestyle will not get us anywhere toward eternal life. On the contrary, many of these will hinder us from gaining eternal life. And there is nothing we can pay to keep our souls, when we have gained all we can in worldly ways. God is not interested in our riches, fame or fortune. But by focussing our search for fulfillment and life on God, we will gain them both - fulfillment and life. In giving our lives to God, we get to keep them.

When Jesus returns we will all be judged. If we have given ourselves to worldly riches, because that is what we have desired, that is the only reward we will have had. On the other hand, if we have given our lives to God - even though we may have lost everything for him, we will be rewarded with eternal life, peace and prosperity for ever. It is no use gaining the world and yet forfeiting your soul, and there is nothing we can give in exchange for our souls. The best we can do is to give God our life.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Robert

8:17-18, 21 In speaking to the disciples about their lack of understanding Jesus is quoting Isa 6:10. He has already used this area of Isaiah Mark 4:12 when speaking about parables. So there is a link between not understanding parables and missing the point about miracles.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
Mark 8:22-26  Only Mark records this miracle. It took place at Bethsaida. A blind man was brought to Jesus, with the request that he be healed. After Jesus for the first time laid His hands on him the handicapped individual saw "men as trees walking." After He again laid His hands on the man's eyes, his sight was fully restored.  Among the detailed restoration of sight narratives not two are alike, showing that God's love touches people individually.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

Jesus' healing of the blind man is curious (v.22-25).

Jesus had healed people by touching or just by pronouncement, in either proximity to or at a distance from the recipient.  And healing had been precise and complete.
This example looks like a bungling attempt and yet we know that could not be.  And so, what could it all mean.

Let's look at the components:
The act of spitting was an act of contempt.  The man who would not raise seed to his dead brother was denounced publicly by his sister-in-law who spit in his face (Deut 25:9); the contempt that Job felt (Job 30:10); the contempt Jesus would experience at the hands of the Romans (Matt 26:67).

And so, what was Jesus showing contempt for when he spit in the eyes of the blind man?  I think he was showing contempt for blindness - spiritual blindness.

But why two attempts before He got it right?

The first attempt brought partial sight and the second attempt brought full sight.  I think he was referencing the Law in the first attempt which brought partial light to the Gospel (Heb 10:1); and Himself in the second attempt which brought complete light (2Tim 1:10).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

V.3 It is difficult for us today, to be able to relate to the fact that this multitude of people (4000) have followed the Lord for three days and have not eaten. We do well to ask ourselves, under the same circumstances would have we remained with Christ for a similar length of time with out providing the natural man some food?


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John
v.2 - How often we find ourselves with 3 days being mentioned.  Here the people would be very hungry.  Let us remember that this is because they had given up food (amongst other things) for 3 days that they might follow this great teacher.  I really feel we have to ask ourselves whether we would have been willing to do that? Those that were received miraculous food, as we see here, and so do we if we also follow.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter
GOD PROVIDES
 
Jesus taught his disciples that if they trusted in God and lived for him, he would supply their needs and they would not have to worry about anything anyone else worries about. He said, "But seek first his [God's] kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things [food, drink and clothing] will be given to you as well." (Matt 6:33)
 
Now, through his ministry, Jesus had graphically illustrated God's provision for his people when they sought for him. Two times, when thousands of people had come to Jesus to hear the word of God, and had stayed late without thought for their need for food, the food had been supplied by God. With only a few loaves of bread and a few small fish, multitudes of people had been fed.
 
So on the boat when Jesus warned the disciples to "watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod," (Mark 8:15) and the disciples thought he was getting at them because they had forgotten to take bread, Jesus appears to get a bit frustrated. He asked, "Do you still not see or understand?" (v.17,21) He went on to remind them of God's provision in the feeding of the five thousand and four thousand. God provides for those who put him first. If we put him above our own needs, he will provide and make up the shortfall. What an amazing promise! Do we see and understand?

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Robert

8:12      The people wanted a sign, they were not happy with the evidence of their own eyes. The things we see - for example the existence of the nation of Israel - is something we might take for granted and yet this is a most powerful evidence that God is at work. What other sign do we need?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
V.38 To be ashamed of Jesus means to be so proud that one wants to have nothing to do with him. We are reminded of Heb 2:11 He is not ashamed (to proud) to them brothers Jesus knew that many were in that sense ashamed of him and his teachings hence, he speaks of this sinful and adulterous generation.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

Jesus went to the area of Caesarea Philippi. This was the most northerly point of His journeyings, and here, in Gentile territory He asked His disciples who people were saying He was (Mark 8:27-33). “But whom say ye that I am?” he then asked them, and Peter pronounced the wonderful statement of faith that Matthew tells us Jesus said was of God, and not of men (Matt 16:17-19). Peter became one of the prophets whose words were inspired by God (Mark 8:28).  But all human people are subject to sin and indiscretions.  Peter tried to say that surely Jesus did not have to suffer and die before He was glorified. This didn’t help Jesus at all, and despite Peter’s earlier pronouncement, he was rebuked. With disciples like this, Jesus would find His sacrifice even harder to bear, and so Peter was an adversary to Jesus at this time, and was told to walk behind Him and not along side.

 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to David

8:4In telling the disciples that he had compassion on the people and would not send them away hungry Jesus was ‘proving’ them as he had asked Philip a similar question - John 6:5-6 - at the time of the feeding of the 5,000. On neither occasion did the disciples rise to the occasion. They could not see beyond the physical to the spiritual. How often do we struggle with a difficulty because we cannot see a spiritual dimension?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
Mark 8:4 - Even here Jesus did not choose to turn stones into bread.  There seems to be a great significance in multiplying existing bread.
Small Reading Group [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Small Reading Group

8:8     In feeding the multitudes in ‘the wilderness’ Jesus fulfilled Psa 23:5.

 


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

Bread is symbolic of Jesus (John 6:33).  Just as bread gives life to the body, Jesus gives eternal life to those who are His (John 6:35).  Seven loaves fed 4000+ people.  That is a miracle in itself.  But, seven baskets of leftovers were also collected - another miracle.  By the way, these were large baskets (Gr. spuris), the same type in which Paul escaped (Acts 9:25).  And so, from the original seven loaves, a great amount of bread had accrued.  This episode is telling us that from Jesus Himself would grow an enormous quantity of believers from all nations who hear and believe the gospel (Matt 28:19, Rev 5:9).  Jesus predicted this growth in His parable of the mustard seed (Matt 13:31,32).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

8:2 Jesus’ ‘compassion’ for the people marks him out as being of the quality required of the priest – Heb 5:2 – Jesus saw a need and it moved him. How do we fare on this point? Do we see the need of our brethren and sisters and others and automatically seek to meet them?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

By asking them "do you not see?" and "do you not hear?" even though they had eyes and ears, Jesus was leading them to understand that they needed something more than physical sight and hearing. By healing a deaf man (7:32-35) and a blind man (8:22-25) he was showing them that he could provide what they still lacked.

None of use can see or hear unless it is given us to do so. This is confirmed in John 15:3-7. Remember the fruit relates to the fruit from the parable in Mark 4 i.e. understanding the words of Jesus. Notice the context is his spoken word (John 15:3) but that it will not help them unless they remain in Jesus (John 15:4) for without him they can do nothing (John 15:5). So the lesson for us is that we should always pray for understanding, having already listened to the word, and it will be given (John 15:7).


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

8:4 The response of the disciples here is rather like that of Moses – Num 11:22 – when God says He will feed Israel with meat in the wilderness.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter