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Reading 1 - Exodus  28
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v.11 (and later verses - 13,14,25) - The word 'ouches'. (Heb. mishb'tsah - 04865) It seems that it suggests a setting for a gem stone, as you would find on a ring. The word is used extensively in Exodus, but only once elsewhere, where we have reason to associate it with much higher things. It is in Ps.45:13-17, where it is translated 'wrought'. This Psalm takes us through a number of ideas which tell us that the picture is one of the bride being married to Christ for eternity. All this from a consideration of 'ouches'.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.7 tells us that the two shoulder-pieces were to be 'joined together'. There is a picture here of the High Priest bridging the gap, as it were, a picture of our advocate Jesus, the Great High Priest, carrying the people of Israel - those whose names are written in the onyx stone - v.12, which were on the shoulders. This is referred back to, I assume, in the famous words of Isa. 9:6 where 'the government shall be upon his shoulder'.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:36 The 'holiness to the Lord' on the mitre which was on the forehead of the high priest testified to his personal commitment to service of his God. This commitment passes into the way in which the Nazarite was committed to God when we are informed [Numbers 6:8] that all the days of his separation he is 'holy to the Lord'. This shows that holiness is not something that can be developed by speaking words. Rather holiness is something seen in a way of life.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:1 In taking Aaron from 'among his brethren' we are being shown that the high priest must share the nature and experiences of those he serves. This is true to Jesus also Hebrews 5:1
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Exodus 28:12 - The names of the twelve tribes of Israel are very significant when we put them in order. Aaron would have had 6 of the names memorialised on each of his shoulders. To any thinking Israelite, he would have learned with the first six names - "Behold, a son," "hear him," "be joined to him," "praise him," and in the "judgement" you will "prevail after wrestling" with your nature. The second six names taught - "The company" of "the Blessed" will be "rewarded" by "dwelling with" and "increasing" the family of "the son of the right hand."
 
Exodus 28:34 - "A pomegranate and a bell..." - The bells would never have been silent whilst the high priest was active, so the sound of the gospel should ever be going forth. The pomegranates are a large red fruit, containing many compartments inside, each compartment whitish in colour, and each containing hundreds of edible seeds within a nourishing pulp. The pomegranate speaks mightily of the seed of Abraham, numerous in multitude, each nourished within separate communities, yet all bound together as one red coloured fruit.

Cliff York [Pine Rivers (Aus)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Cliff
28:38 The twofold mention of ‘forehead’ as the location for the ‘plate’ is a reminder that the iniquity of Israel came from their own mind – not from some external tempter.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

Exo 28:36 The golden plate on the front of Aaron’s mitre said "Holiness to the Lord". This purified the gifts of the people of Israel Exo 28:38 In other words, human gifts had to be cleansed before they could be acceptable to God.


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
Exo 28:21  "Every one with his name shall they be according to the twelve tribes" When we go to Num. 2  we see the order of the names with the four rows of three.  
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

Aaron's robe was made so that it could not be torn (vs.31,32). Christ's coat was not torn when his clothes were divided by the soldiers at his crucifixion (John 19:23,24).

V.34 (See also Exo 39:26).  Embroidered pomegranates were to be alteranted with gold bells on the hem of aaron's robe. According to Jewish tradition, a pomegranate contains 613 seeds, which would corresposnd to the 613 tenets of the Law. That is the reason Jews eat pomegrates on Rosh Hashonah (Jewish new Year).  Actually, the number of seeds in a pomegranate varies according to the size of the fruit.  But, anything can be incorporated into tradition, whether really true or not.  That is the reason we should always compare any traditon we hold with the Word (2Thess 2:15).

The precious stones, representing the tribes of Israel, were carried by Aaron, the high priest before Yahweh. Similarly, our high priest Jesus bears us before the LORD. We are living stones which make up the house of the Lord (1Pet 2:5).

The display of HOLINESS TO YAHWEH (v.36) is picked up again in Zechariah in an image of the Kingdom Zech 14:20).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

V.34 The use of the bell seems to have been to announce to the people when the high priest entered the most holy place, that they might accompany him in their prayers.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John
The concept of garments has much spiritual meaning in scripture, and here we see the arraying of the priests, who by reason of death could not bring salvation.  Our high priest that did was clothed, as it were, as we are by God, in righteousness.  What a stark contrast.  No pomp, no ceremony - just righteousness. Let us learn.  The ceremony and ritual of the law has gone.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter
V.3 - "consecrate" Heb. "gadesh" (6942) means "to be clean, consecrate, purify, sanctify, holy keep, appoint, dedicate, prepare, proclaim, to set apart", etc.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Charles

28        Notice the threefold ‘heart (o 28:29,30,31) and twofold ‘forehead’ (28:38). The heart is the place where the names should be. The head is where the sins are borne. There is a need to understand that the sins destroy the relationship that one has with God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

Note the phrase 'Aaron shall bear' in v12,29,30,38 It firstly points to bearing the names of the children of Israel firstly on his shoulders (v12) and secondly on his brest (or heart v29,30). Finally Aaron may bear the iniquity of the holy things on his forehead (or mind v38)
Surely this points forward to our Lord Jesus in Heb 9:28, who was once offered to 'bear <399> the sins of many.' This should exhort us to 'offer <399> the sacrifice of praise to God continually' Heb 13:15.


Tim Collard [Hall Green, Birmingham, UK]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Tim

28:2 That the garments were for ‘glory and for beauty’ is like the way that Jesus was crowned with glory and honour - Psalm 8:5 which is quoted in Heb 2:7


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

Each Israelite was represented through the name of his tribe which was shown by a distinct colored stone (vs.17-21). Contrast this with the chosen spiritual Israelites who will all receive a white stone but a unique name (Rev 2:17).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

28:16    The breastplate, which carried the stones representative of Israel, is ‘foursquare’ which is reflected in the city of Rev 21:16


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

28:29 In bearing the names of the children of Israel upon his heart we see that Aaron should appreciate that he is representing the people in his ministry in the tabernacle.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

Moses was a Christ-type.  Let's look at a priestly parallel.  Moses was a priest (Psa 99:6).  Jesus is a high priest over His household (Heb 4:14,15 etc.).  Moses delegated priestly responsibility to his brethren (v.1).  Jesus will do that to his brethren in the Kingdom (Rev 1:6; 5:10).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael
Exo 28:30 - The Urim (signifies lights) and Thummim (means perfections - suggesting complete truth) combined may have represented the shining forth of complete truth where God would answer the people. It would seem there was perhaps some means where reflections of the gems/stones on the priest's breastplate were connected with the lot in providing an answer (Lev 8:8;Deut 33:8;Ezra 2:63;Num 27:21;1Sam 14:36-46;1Sam 28:6;Prov 16:33;Prov 18:18). Some of the preceeding was gleaned from The Book of Exodus  by H.P. Mansfield, p379-380.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

28:30 In bearing the judgment of the children of Israel upon his heart Aaron was to understand that his work was not simply a matter of following the ritual of the law. He was also to have the position of the children of Israel in his mind at all times. The matters of judgment were to be made in order that the people were clean before God’s eyes.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
There is a kind of perfection about this breastplate. Did you know that the colours of the first three gemstones (Ruby, Topaz, Emerald) could be Red, Green and Blue, with which any other colour can be made?
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Rob
Reading 2 - Psalms 83 and 84
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84 v. 5-7 - Here we have an account of one of the actions of those who are in Zion and appear before God - that they pass through the valley of Baca and make it a well. The word Baca (bakah - 10506 01507) is the same word translated 'mulberry trees'. When there was a stirring in the mulberry trees 2Sam.5:24 then it was time for action. That action brought water out of drought - the purpose of a well (or fountain - ma'yan 04599). Compare the use of this (fairly rare) word in 1Kings 18:5 (translated 'fountains') in the days of Ahab. So we, as inhabitants of Zion, should turn drought into living waters as we preach.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
84 v.4 - There are quite a number of references to dwelling in God's house. This refers to the abiding places that Christ's perfection of God's plan created for us by grace (John 14:1-3). See also Psa.23:6, 27:4, 65:4, 134:1-3
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Psalm 83 - Certain events in Israel's history seem to be spoken of a number of times. The defeat of God's enemies by Gideon being one. This Psalm draws upon these events. :11 Oreb Zeeb Zebah Zalmunna Judges 7:21, 25. We might like to give some thought as to why this is so.

84:10 Being a doorkeeper in the house of God was no menial task. So we should not think that it will be a job for the saints in the kingdom - as if we were to think that we would be happy if that was all we were able to do.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

83:6 The Hagarenes can be identified (1 Chronicles 5:10) as coming from the North East of Israel.

84:4 Jesus knew that those who 'dwell' in God's house are blessed. This is why he encouraged Peter (John 14:1-2) telling him (and us) that he was going to prepare a place in God's house for us.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Psalm 83 - "A song or Psalm of David" - Are we about to see the fulfillment of this Psalm? As Iraq and 'the coalition of the willing' prepare to go to war, will the spin off be that Israel must face war too against her hostile Arab neighbours? They all want Jerusalem as their possession, but this Psalm speaks of Israel's victory and also Israel's preparedness to acknowledge that any victory as belonging to Yahweh - Psalm 83:18. The Psalm ends with the words appearing as the superscription of the next Psalm - "To the chief musician upon Gittith."
 
Psalm 84 - begins with "A Psalm for the sons of Korah" - it appears that this Psalm is based on the events recorded in 2 Chronicles 19 - after Israel returned from battle with the Moabites.
 
Psalm 84:2 - "and my flesh crieth out for the Living God" - Israel had been sojourners for 400 years and in the land of Egypt for 215 years, ending up in the hands of a ruthless Pharaoh before we read of their first cries to the Living God - Exodus 2:23. How long do we have to be under pressure before we take our cares to God in prayer?

Cliff York [Pine Rivers (Aus)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Cliff

83:9 We have already seen references to Gideon’s work notice also references to Deborah and Barak with the mention of ‘Sisera’ and ‘Jabin’.  Maybe the focus on these Judges tells us something about the location of the battle spoken of in the Psalm. Both Judges were involved in battles in the area of the Jezreel valley

84:5,12 Here is another Psalm where we learn how a man can be blessed and how to achieve that blessing (see also Psa 1:1, 32:3, 65:4, 94:12)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

Psalm 83  This Psalm is a prayer for the destruction of those who would destroy Israel.  V.6-11  "confederate against thee" Even though Israel has the odd friend to day, we see these few verses has having a present day application.

Psalm 84  A song of great joy and delight at the prospects of being in God's house.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
LEMONADE
 
"When life hands you a lemon, make lemonade!"  I was given this wonderful piece of advice a number of years ago and in taking it and putting it into practice have found that it greatly improves the quality and perception of life.
 
We are on a journey that is going to take us to the place God has prepared for us.  On the way we are going to experience hardships and trials.  What we do with these is up to us.  They will either make us bitter and hardened, or we can accept what we have been given, look for ways of overcoming what we can, and make the most of life, doing what we can with what we have.
 
The Psalmist described this part of the journey like this: "As they pass through the valley of Baca, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools.  They go from strength to strength till each appears before God in Zion." (Psa 87:6-7
 
The valley of Baca means the valley of weeping.  When we come to the valley of weeping we feel sorry for ourselves and mourn.  But not those whose strength is in God.  They may weep but they use their tears to make springs and pools of water so that things will grow!  The valley of weeping will then become a valley of strength and rejoicing.  The lemons have been turned into lemonade.
 
So when we are handed lemons or when we walk through the valley of weeping what are we going to do?  Will we sit there feeling sorry for ourselves or will we get up and go from strength to strength, making the most of what we have got and press on toward Zion?  Only we can decide for ourselves.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Robert
The word "amiable" in Psa 84:1is usually translated "beloved" as of people.  So is it fair to say that the psalmist here could be prophecying of the New Testament "ecclesia"? We are the temple of God
(1Cor 3:16).

David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David
83:1-2 - Maybe we sometimes feel that God is 'keeping silence' - sitting back and not intervening in the things of the earth.  We see His enemies making a tumult, just as the Psalmist did.  One day with the Psalmist (v.18) we will see the day when all shall know the God of Heaven.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter

83:18    We might think that God would simply punish nations. However the Psalmist, realising His desire, wants His enemies to ‘seek’ God’s name. Is this how we see God’s judgments? Do we se the judgments as bringing about repentance or do we see them as destruction?

 

84:2      Do we ‘long for’ the kingdom? Or is it something that we feel we can wait for because there are so many enjoyable things to do in this life?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter
84:11 - "...the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withold from them that walk uprightly."  This reminds the faithful of the good gifts given (even if at times they may not seem like good gifts) including the ultimate gift of grace, eternal life Matt 7:7-14; Acts 15:11
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Charles

Psa 84:10 would have been an exhortation to the sons of Korah who faithfully continued to be engaged in service in the temple as opposed to their forefather who preferred to set up his own false worship amongst the tents of the wicked.  But this verse also reflects Samuel (another son of Korah: 1Chron 6:28) who opened the doors of the house of the Lord (1Sam 3:15) and saw each day the tents of the wicked outside.
There are other allusions to the early days of Samuel in this Psalm: the use, four times of the phrase "Lord of Hosts" first spoken by Hannah in 1Sam 1:11, and used also in 1Sam 1:3: the use of the concept of God's anointed in verse 9 being an echo of Hannah's use of the concept, again for the first time in scripture in 1Sam 2:10. And what about verse 3, is this not a beautiful description of what Hannah did in bringing her son to God's house?


Graeme Rudland [Crewe (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Graeme

84:11The promise that the upright will be blessed by God is seen also in Psa 34:9-10


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

The valley of Baca (84:6) is not a geographical location. In Hebrew the word Baca comes from the root word meaning to weep. Thus, the poetical play on words indicates that the LORD can turn tears of sorrow to those of joy and blessing.  He will do just that when Jesus returns to claim His own (Rev 7:17).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

84:4 Dwelling in God’s house is a significant concern of the Psalmist. See Psa 15:1, 24:3, 27:4 How concerned are we to dwell in the house of the Lord? Not just the kingdom but the ecclesia which is the house of God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

83:4  Israel’s enemies sealed their own fate when they decided to cut Israel off that they be not a nation for God had Israel in His thoughts all the year – Deut 11:12- and the certainty of the promises to David are as sure as night follows day – Jer 33:20-21. Whilst this promise in Jeremiah was doubtless spoken after the Psalm was written it still encapsulates an eternal truth about Israel. And His purpose.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

83:3 The enemies of Yahweh have conspired against His people and His hidden ones (KJV). The phrase, Hidden ones suggests hidden treasures. These can apply to the people of Israel, but also to things.  Perhaps, the temple and its treasures is meant.  In wanting to destroy the people of Israel, the enemies of Yahweh would want to destroy any symbols of their worship.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

 

84:10 Care should be taken not to read: I had rather be a doorkeeper… with the tone of: I would rather be just a (or a mere) lowly doorkeeper…

The word for doorkeeper in Hebrew is safaf. The word could have easily been translated gatekeeper as gates is translated from the Hebrew word saf (1Chron 9:19). These keepers of the gates were alternatively known as porters (Hebrew shoer = doorkeeper) (1Chron 9:17,22). Notice that they were chosen to hold that honorable position (1Chron 9:22). Notice, also, that those selected were priests (1Chron 9:18; 2Chron 23:4). But, these porters did not hold open doors for people to enter or leave a particular place, as we understand doorkeepers today. They were charged with preventing the unclean from entering the holy place. Moreover, they were to praise Yahweh with music (2Chron 23:5).

There are other things that could be said about the esteemed holy office of a doorkeeper. Suffice it to say, that a doorkeeper was not an insignificant, menial job. It was one of selection to the service of Yahweh from the priestly class.

The psalmist is saying that he would rather be in Yahweh’s service than having all the fineries of this life. For the true followers of Jesus, the same longing should apply. They should rather be (selected) a doorkeeper in Yahweh’s house in the Kingdom than having all the riches of this present life. After all, they would be eligible because they would be priests in that age (Rev 1:6; 5:10).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael
83:13-17 In asking for divine judgement against the nations, the psalmist's purpose is that of a godly one, concern for others.  "So that men will seek your name"(vs16) so "that they will know you"(vs18).  When we ask for God's judgement in the kingdom of men that we live in, our focus should be in asking for God's will to be done, that His name be proclaimed so that all might choose to commit their lives to Him. 
Rebekah Hunter [Saanich Peninsula]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rebekah

83:18 Notice that whilst these nations have sought to destroy Israel God’s concern for them is that, rather than simply destroying them, they might turn to Him and recognise Him as God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

Psa 83:4 "(God's enemies)  have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance." sits very nicely with the following quote from the BBC news website dated 30th October 2005: "The Iranian president's call for Israel to be 'wiped off the face of the map' has received a sympathetic ear in some Arabic papers"

The very next verse v5 talks of a confederacy of God's enemies which is surely reflected in Ezekiel 38, especially since it involves Iran (Eze 38:5)


Ken Trelfer [Kettering, UK]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Ken
Reading 3 - Mark  13
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v.10 - This, and other verses which we will consider here, ought to have a great impact on our efforts. We pray for the kingdom, and yet we know that it will not come until the whole earth have had a chance to hear the word. What are each of us doing to help to bring this about? Consider these passages - Mr.16:15, Matt.24:14, 28:19, Rom.10:18, 15:19, Col.1:6, 23 Rev.14:6.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.3 Peter, James and John are singled out a number of times in the gospels to be with Jesus for specific events on their own. Here is a list of them. Matthew 17:1 26:37 Mark 5:37 9:2 14:33 Luke 8:51. In the gospels there are a number of times when Jesus took himself away from the crowds up into a mountain. Matthew 5:1 8:1 14:23 15:29 17:1 24:3 28:16 Mark 6:46 9:2 Luke 6:12 9:28 22:39 John 6:3 15 8:1. It seems that this was either for solitude for himself of privacy in order to instruct his disciples. We should note that whilst Jesus went about preaching and teaching and devoting himself to the Father's work he did take time out to fulfil his own personal needs.
v. 14 The 'abomination' is a concept spoken of three times in Daniel (Daniel 9:27 11:31 12:11) and is taken up by Jesus Matthew 24:15 Luke 21:20 to speak of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem One can imagine that the Jews had often discussed what Daniel was speaking about when he spoke of the abomination. Jesus, the greatest prophet, when speaking of this part of Daniel has as his prime concern the welfare of the disciples, not a detailed understanding of Daniel. Our personal salvation is more critical than a correct understanding of the details of the time of the end if Jesus' example here is anything to go by.

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
Whereas we might think that this prophecy was given to show the disciples when Jerusalem was going to be overthrown by the Romans Jesus' focus is more personal. He is concerned to warn the disciples about the perils that would befall them at this time. Notice these words.
:5 take heed
:7 be ye not troubled
:9 take heed
:23 take heed
:33 take heed
:35 watch
:37 watch
Jesus' prime focus was to prepare his disciples for that terrible time rather than to tell them when it would be. Likewise we should view the prophecies about the events surrounding the return of Jesus as providing us with comfort and encouragement rather than try to work out in advance exactly what will happen, and then fall out with our brothers and sisters when they disagree with our interpretation.

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Notice that Jesus is speaking both of things which the disciples will see
:7, 9, 11, 13, etc:
And of events which will occur after their death
:26 'they'

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Mark 13:32 - "knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" - This was true on the day that Jesus spoke those words. However, on His ascension into Heaven, God has revealed much more to the Son and to the angels, so that they closely work together to bring to a climax, the great plan of the ages. Who knows the day then? To be sure, we don't - but we know the times and the seasons - and we have not much longer to go!!
 
Mark 13:35 - The Jews only had three watches through the night. The Romans had four. Because Jesus uses the four watches here, He is telling us that His coming will be whilst the Gentile Romish darkness still reigns supreme across the earth. Are we watching? How can we sleep with the world as it is? Are we ready? Behold, He comes, our Leader comes - I can't wait!!

Cliff York [Pine Rivers (Aus)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Cliff

13:1-3 Notice the details Mark provides. 'One' disciple comments about the temple, probably in the Kidron valley. When they had got to the mount of Olives and were resting Peter James and John question Jesus about what Jesus had said to the one disciple to whom Jesus spoke about the overthrow of the temple.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
Mark 13:33  Know ye not It could be during our lifetime, but it may not be. Be alert all your life, for the coming could be in your youth, in your maturity, or in your old age. We do know however, that it can not be far away. Therefore Take ye heed. 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

We do not know precisely when the Lord will return (vs. 32,33).  Yes, we should watch current events as they unfold in the geo-political heavens.  This will bolster our faith and spur us on, especially if we talk it up amongst ourselves (Heb 10:25).  Insistence on numerological precision, to conclude points of prophecy with an adamant promotion and defence of time frames is not helpful. And yet, some brethren insist on such practices.  Even some of our founding brethren, to whom we owe much, have foundered upon these shoals to the chagrin of many. This practice can be divisive, denying the greater reason for our sojourning together (Col 3:15).

Rather, let us just watch and pray, and stand firm (1Cor 16:13). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
v.1,2 - Not only do we learn of the salvation of Jesus here but we learn also that those things which man admires are nothing - the mere work of men's hands.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Peter

13:12   Whilst the betray spoken of doubtless took place in the time of the first century ecclesia the words had a poignant truth in the betrayal of Jesus by Judas.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

V.33 For the fourth time Jesus says "take ye heed" or perhaps better rendered "take careV.5; 9; 23; 33, He is telling the discipls to remain awake. They have been asking about the time when the Master's predictions would be fulfilled. (V.4) They should have been far more concerned about being ready, so they could arm themselves to spend their time profitably. They should be aware of the events that are taking place, so they would be strengthened (V.23)  Be on your guard, Keep watch.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John
Today’s chapter is of Jesus giving what we know as the Olivet Prophecy. He spoke of the time soon to come when Jerusalem would be overthrown in AD70, and then of the last days when He will come in His kingdom. “You don’t know when that time will be,” He said, “so keep working and keep watching” (Mark 13:32-37).
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to David

v 34 here we have the doorkeepers of Psa 84:10 in a present context. We each have our assigned tasks in the present ecclesial situation, and as we know from Matt 25:14-30 we each have been given suitable talents.

We have been given this end-time prophecy by the Lord, together with his end-time prophecy of Revelation, and it is helpful to meditate on them together, so that we may better understand them.


Wendy Johnsen [Nanaimo, BC, Canada]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Wendy

 

This chapter contains what is termed the Olivet Prophecy. Comparable accounts can be found in Matt 24 and Luke 21.  The prophecy essentially concerns the events of 70 AD - the destruction of the temple; the massacre of many (over 1 million) Jews; and the scattering of the Jewish people to different lands.  However, some parts of the prophecy pertain to Christ's second coming.  Careful examination is needed to understand which parts of the prophecy belong to which era.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

13:11 We have read these words before. Jesus spoke these words to the disciples - Luke 12:11-12. Jesus had been preparing the disciples for what it would be like after his death. He now returns to the same concern.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
V.3 It is interesting to note that it is Mark that tells us who the disciples were that asked the question "When shall these things be?" We also note that on this occasion that not only Peter, James, and John are with the Master, but also Andrew was there.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John
ASSIGNED TASKS
 
We don't know when Jesus is coming back. We have been given sign that tell us when his time is close, but Jesus said, "You do not know when that time will come." (Mark 13:33) He continued by telling a parable about what it means to be one of us waiting for his return. "It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch." (v.34)
 
Jesus has gone away. He has left his church, and left us, his servants, in charge. What an important responsibility we have! But it is not an overwhelming responsibility. None of us have been given more than we can handle. All we have to do is our assigned task.
 
Our role in our churches, families or communities may give us an idea of what we should be doing. Our talents and abilities can give us some idea. And circumstances and requests can also point us in the direction of our assigned task.
 
Jesus will come back. What will he find us doing? Will we be grudgingly grumbling through our task, wondering why no one else is helping us with it? Will we have abandoned the task to do our own thing? Or will we be willingly doing our very best to please the Lord? When he comes may he find us busy, willing and productive, doing our assigned task with all our hearts.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Robert

13:2   That one stone would not be left upon another catches the way in which a leprous house was to be destroyed Lev 14:45.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

13:12 The family discord about Jesus has already been spoken of by Jesus – Luke 12:53 – as we have shown in other comments on the Olivet prophecy Jesus’ warnings draw extensively things he had said previously to the disciples. Upon.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

DECEPTION

 

The twelve disciples were not ready for Jesus to die. Even though he had told them plainly time after time that he was to go to Jerusalem, be crucified and be raised from the dead, this concept just went staright over their heads. It was only well after it had all happened that the reality dawned on them.

 

Another similar era is approaching for us. Again the scriptures warn us time after time of what is going to happen in the last days, but because it all too often it doesn't fit with what we see happening around us right now, it's significance can be completely missed by us.

 

We are waiting for Jesus to return, just as the disciples were waiting for Jesus to restore the kingdom. But are we, as believers, prepared for a deception that might come, potentially strong enough to deceive even us? "At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. For false Christ's and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect - if that were possible. So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time." (Mark 13:21-23) This deception is also spoken about in Daniel 8, 11, Matthew 24, 1 Thessalonians 2, 2 Thessalonians 2, Revelation 19 and other places.

 

Let's be warned so that we don't get taken in by the signs and miracles that could so easily deceive us.


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Robert

13:18 It is common to see this Olivet prophecy as being a prophecy of the last days, doubtless t is. However it had an immediacy relating to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans so ‘your flight be not in winter’ had an immediacy for the disciples.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter