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v. 1 - It seems that the meat offering (which didn't involve meat) was made
to smell nice by the frankincense. It was important that the 'sweet smelling savour'
was literal and not just figurative. Do our 'offerings' reach God as a sweet smelling
savour, when we pray for His forgiveness? Do we put the effort and personal expense
into adding the 'frankincense' to them so that they do? Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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1:3
'of his own voluntary will' shows that it is a freewill offering, like that
of Jesus. 2:11
no leaven or honey was to be used in any meal offering. Leaven is a corrupting
influence - see Matthew
16:6 and honey is naturally sweet, Christ, who is typified by the offerings,
was not naturally sweet. He had to subject his fleshly mind to the will of his
Father. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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v.3 - There were a number of levels of sacrifice, and a number of criteria
decided what size of sacrifice you should bring, but the concept of voluntary
will must have had a bearing on it, as it is stated in this verse. God is always
interested in what we choose to bring Him, rather than our maybe reluctant response
to what we believe to be a command. This concept of a willing mind is one that
we should develop. 1Chron.28:9,
2Cor.8:12 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| Leviticus follows
on from the book of Exodus but we should not think it fits chronologically at
the end of the book of Exodus. In fact all the contents of the book of Leviticus
were spoken whilst Israel were at Sinai - 7:38
25:1 26:46 27:34. So the contents of this book fit within Exodus 19-40.
2:4 The word translated 'oblation' 07133 is also translated 'offering' [2:1] 21 times in Leviticus so whilst we might not be familiar with the word 'oblation' the way that the Hebrew word is used elsewhere in Leviticus shows us simply that the oblation is an offering. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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1:17 That the bird was not divided indicates that it was opened so that it's inside could be seen - 'all thinks are naked and opened' (Hebrews 4:13) 2:13 The seasoning of sacrifices with salt highlights the effect of salt - it both preserves and brings out the flavour - see also Colossians 4:6 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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ch 1 - We doubtless realise that the contents of Leviticus were given at Sinai. However this is confirmed by the way that we are told this (7:38, 25:1, 26:46, 27:34) 2:2 That the burning sacrifice is referred to as a ‘sweet savour’ is a recurring phrase in the law. However we would do well to realise that burning flesh is not an appealing smell to humans. So we understand that whilst destroying the flesh is not pleasant for us it is for the Father. Of course this analogy relates to our lives. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| Lev 1 There is no specific reason for the burnt offering. (It was voluntary) The offering appears to be the desire of the offerer. To be accepted by God, the means of achieving this would be complete dedication and destruction of the flesh, as the animal consumed on the fire. V.9, 13, 17 The priest shall burn it upon the alter. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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Burnt offerings were made on a purely voluntary basis. -Bullock However, Yahweh demanded only the best produce to be offered. With the grain offerings no leaven or honey were permitted. These commodities allowed fermentation which is associated with corruption (Matt 16:6). Salt was to be included in the offerings, however. Salt is a sign of the covenant. The nature of salt is that it is hygroscopic (i.e. takes moisture from the air). In doing so, it symbolizes the absorption of the Word (John 4:10-14). Thus, those who lose their desire to absorb the Word become useless spiritually (Matt 5:13). And so we can conclude that we ought to gladly volunteer our best offerings to Yahweh by way of service (2Cor 9:7). They should be without corruption and be fully persuaded by the Word. Then we shall remain in covenant relationship with our God. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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| I think our 'Frankincense' is our sincerity of heart that then is what makes our offerings and our prayers 'A Sweet Smelling Savour' to our Heavenly Father Kelly Coombs [Spalding (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Kelly |
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| Lev 2:12-16 Salt had to be included with every sacrifice. If there was no salt, then you couldn't offer to God. Is that why Jesus said, "Ye are the salt of the earth"? (Matt 5:13) In that sense we complement Christ's sacrifice. He was the sacrifice, we are the salt. God now accepts us through Christ Jesus. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to David |
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| 2:3 The fact that a portion of the meat offering being appropriated to the use of the priests distinguishes it from a burnt offering, which only they were allowed to partake. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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1:13 Whilst the sacrifice was to be ‘washed with water’ the animal was not dirty. Nor was it a procedure to wash away blood. The washing was to signify the need for cleaning which was required even though the animal was without blemish. Nothing that man offers is acceptable in itself. It has to be sanctified by God. This was achieved by washing according to His instruction. Likewise we are cleansed by the ‘washing of the word’ Eph 5:26 even though we stand righteous through our faith.
2:1 That the mat – meal – offering had to be according to God’s dictate is typical of all the sacrifices. They had to be according to Gods specification, not according to the inclination of the offerer. Likewise we must offer ourselves in accordance to His requirements, not our own convenience. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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| 2:13 The salt contained a preservative quality, hence it became an emblem of incorruption and purity. It therefore stands for the opposite of corruption in nature. To require salt in all meat offerings was an indication that their acceptability depended on their being offered with a hearty, pleasant, zestful, loving intelligence. A listless, savourless offering is of no pleasure to God. We are reminded of the words of Jesus. Mark 9:50 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to John |
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1:17 But the bird was not ‘divided’ echoes the way that Abraham was involved in the covenant sacrifice in Gen 15:10 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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2:2 It might seem an obvious point but is worth making anyway. All sacrifices had to be taken to Aaron’s sons to be offered. Even though the offerer was wiling there was the need for a mediator between the offerer and God. Jesus mediates the new covenant – 1Tim 2:5 Heb 8:6 – our sacrifices to God would be of no value without our involvement in the new covenant in Christ. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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1:9,13 The inward parts and the legs of the sacrifice had to be washed. Washing is a process to make clean. Yahweh is demonstrating that His people should cleanse themselves of all evil (Isa 1:16). The inward parts pertain to spiritual cleansing (inner purity) (Psa 51:6). The legs indicate a continuing walk in the ways of Yahweh (2John 1:6). The description of verses 9,13 is reflective of Jesus (Eph 5:2). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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1:3 Sacrifice is just that, there must be a cost to the offerer as David explained – 2Sam 24:23 - but that is not sufficient. The attitude of the offerer must be right also. Paul highlights this point when writing to the Corinthians, on this occasion about money but using a basic principle – 2Cor 9:7 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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Leviticus is derived from Greek and means Book of the Levites. Both the Septuagint and the Vulgate used this term, and it has been accepted by more modern versions. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the book is called Vayikra which means and He called.2:1 The grain offering of fine flour represented Jesus. After offering this sacrifice, Aaron and his sons had to eat what was left. Nothing was to be thrown away. Bread represents the body of Christ; whose body also represents His household. Aaron and his sons were priests; the members of Christ’s household are priests-in-training. The same respect must be given to Christ’s body as was indicated under the Law. No part of His body is to be discarded. The sacrifice under the Law was a memorial (2:9). The household of Christ remembers Him by the breaking of bread each week. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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Lev 1:3-7,9 - v3 the burnt offering was about dedication to God and Christ was totally dedicated to God - the offering was the total consumption of a life to the purpose of God; v3 Christ was an unblemished male from the herd; v3 Christ yielded to His father's will (of his own free will) v4 to offered what he could afford (himself) as an atonement; v5 Christ was slaughtered, the sprinkled blood reminds us how Christ's sacrificed blood covers many just as many share the cup of wine each first day of the week; v6 cutting into pieces reminds us of how by his stripes we are healed and that Christ's sacrifice is for many just as many share the broken bread symbolic of his sacrificed body; v7 the wood and altar echo the crucifixion of Christ; v9 the washing the legs and inner parts is like a cleansing baptism that effects our walk and inner being. Lev 2:12,14 - The Meal Offering refers to the dedication of labors as did the Drink Offering and together they formed the bread and wine foreshadowing Christ's poured out blood and offered flesh. V12 the usage "firstfruits" is from the Heb word "reshith" (7225) and it means "first or principal". V14 the usages of "firstfruits" are from the Heb word "bikkur" (1061) and it means "first or earliest fruit, ripe, hasty fruit". In the March 15th readings on Leviticus 23 re the Feast of Firstfruits, which took place at Passover, we have from David Simpson 2004, Peter Forbes 2002-3 and others more information about the firstfruits. Christ was the firstfruits. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Charles |
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1:8-9 Sacrifice does not stop with giving of one s time, for example. Once one has committed oneself to making the sacrifice, whatever it is, there is a responsibility o perform the sacrifice diligently and not in a slap dash way. So, for example, if one offers to take someone to the meeting it is part of the sacrifice to ensure that nothing is done to cause concern to the one being offered the ride. So one would always arrive to take the person at a time that they are comfortable. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| Abraham was about to offer Isaac as a burned offering, which foreshadowed Jesus' sacrifice. So we know that Jesus' death on the cross signifies a burnt offering. One might wonder "who offered Jesus"? It certainly wasn't the people, because they rejected him. It was in fact God who brought Jesus as His offering; a male without blemish, of God's own flock of Israel, and of God's own free will (1:3, Heb 10:5). Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Rob |
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| v.14
is very comforting, isn't it? There are a number of other passages that offer
the same comfort. Ps.78:38,39,
Job 10:9. Although
God demands an attitude from us that we always try our best, he nevertheless is
aware of our shortcomings, especially that of the flesh which we inhabit. Ps.89:47 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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103 This wonderful Psalm gives a number of reasons why we should bless the
Lord. We should reflect on each of these reasons as we read the Psalm. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.1,2,20-22
- The phrase 'Bless the Lord' comes a number of times. This seems an odd concept,
as we have nothing we can give to God which He would consider a blessing, not
in the sense in which His blessings to us cover our needs -as He has no needs
of that sort. But He does have desires and it is His stated desire that all should
come to repentance. Therefore by humbling ourselves to obedience, we bless Him
in furthering His desire to save us, which, conversely, can only come about by
Him blessing us. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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The Psalmist recognises that God has been merciful to him. This attitude is reflected
[Ezra
9:13] by Ezra. The context in Ezra 9 shows that this is not simply a statement
about our lives generally. Ezra had specific sins in mind when he echoes the words
of the Psalmist. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :13
That the Lord pities His children is presented (Malachi
3:17) again when speaking of those who 'spake often one to another' (Malachi
3:16). So we can know which of His children He will spare. Will we be among
them?
Against the background of the way in which God cares for His creation we learn that His mercy is seen in the provision of Jesus. Verse 17 is quoted by Mary (Luke 1:50) in response to the wonderful news she received. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 103:8 David is re-stating the character of God as revealed to Moses (Exo 34:6) and uses this understanding to reassure himself about how God will treat His servants. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| Psalm 103 A beautiful Psalm reflecting on the fatherly aspects of a God who is merciful and forgiving.(V.13) Those who have been blessed with children will appreciate what David is saying. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| This is a psalm of great consolation. We come and go but Yahweh is everlasting. And yet He is merciful in overlooking our sins. He knows we are weak and incapable and yet He has pity on us. He offers us life where we deserve death. How great is our God and worthy to be praised! Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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| This psalm reminds me of the parable of the lost son. It's a psalm, perhaps the psalm, about forgiveness. In v5 we have "(God) ..satisfies your mouth with good things". In Luke 15 vs 16 and 23 we see by means of the hunger of the son, the contrast between the state of a man before and after the forgiveness of His father. The picture painted is one of complete and gladly given forgiveness with no half measures. In v13 of the Psalm we get the most wonderful reasurance God could ever give us if we ever doubted His grace: "As a father pities his children, so the LORD pities those who fear Him. For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust". If ever there was a passage of scripture worth committing to memory, I would suggest it was this one. Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Rob |
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David is able here to even ask the angels in God’s presence, to praise Him (Psa 103:20-21). Of-course they will. They always have and they always will. But when he wants to praise and honour God to the uttermost, he not only says that the inanimate works of creation praise God, but even asks the angels to do so too. There is no limit to which we can go, when we honour God’s Name. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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103:15-16 The transient nature of man is to be seen against the majesty of God as seen in his character outlined in this Psalm. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Peter |
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| V.3-5 - Here we have our hope: v 3 we have the forgiving of sins; v 4 redeeming life from destruction (KJV) the pit (NIV) and crowning with mercy; v 5 youth being renewed like an eagle.... the eagle lives to a great age and as he grows old his beak becomes too long to eat so he flys alone and breaks it off by pecking a rock and he loses feathers during the fasting until the new bill grows and he takes food and his new feathers grow so he appears renewed like a young eagle (perhaps an echo of the new bodies received upon resurrection). Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Charles |
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103:15 The transient nature of man, as outlined here in the Psalm, is seen in James 1:10 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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103:3 In saying that God ‘forgiveth all thine iniquities’ the Psalmist is recalling God’s assurance e in Exo 34:7 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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103:1-5 There is great value in, from time to time, sitting back and simply recounting to ourselves the wonderful things that God has done for us. It is all too easy to take His benefits for granted. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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103:12 As far as the east is from the west shows the magnitude of God’s mercy. east and west never meet no matter how far one goes. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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- Here we have women joining in the worship - and the only requirement is
that they should be covered. There are a few examples of women doing this - Luke
2:36, Acts 2:17,21:9.
The shaving of the head was what a woman entering the camp of Israel had to do
for a month to humble her and prepare her for marriage to someone in the camp
- Deut.21:10-13.
To avoid this process, the new covenant allows for a head covering for women instead. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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If it were not for Paul's introduction to the 'Last Supper' we would probably
never think of introducing it with 'the same night in which he was betrayed'.
The reason why Paul does this is that there were those at Corinth who, like Judas,
had other things on their mind at the breaking of bread. Judas wanted to leave
to get the money promised him. There were those in Corinth who were more concerned
with their own pleasure that remembering the death of Jesus. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 11:18 In speaking of 'divisions' Paul is returning to the point he made (1:11, 3:3) - so important is the matter. Disharmony at a basic level impacted on every other action of the ecclesia. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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1Cor 11:12 For as the woman is of the man. (creation) Gen 2:22 even so is the man also by the woman. As the woman was first formed out of the side of man, man has ever since has been formed in the womb of woman.
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V.1 Paul emphazises that he is to be followed because he follows Christ. Christ is our leader and we are all followers. We should be careful not to be persuaded by knowledgeable, influential brethren unless it enhances our position in Christ (1Cor 3:4-6, 1Thess 5:21). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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11:7 If the husband is the ‘image’ of God in type in the marriage this makes clear how he should respond to his wife. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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The number of sisters not wishing to wear a head covering has increased in recent years. Unfortunately, the Women's Movement has persuaded the modern woman that she is equal to man and must assert her rights. This sentiment has crept into the ecclesia. Paul, who is not a favorite of the Women's Movement, is showing Yahweh's view. There is a divine hierarchy in terms of headship: God >Jesus>man>woman. Man, being made in the image of God should not have his head covered. Uncovered, he honors his head, Jesus (vs.4,7). Woman was made for man (her head). Therefore in recognizing the authority of her husband, the woman should have her head covered (v.10). An angel is always present with us as an individual, covenanted believer. And so, imagine the cluster of angels that must be present when these believers meet. Angels represent Yahweh, and so believers are, de facto, in the presence of Yahweh. Thus, it is a shame for a woman to be uncovered in His presence. For a woman to defiantly insist on being uncovered is an act of insubordination and rebellion which will be addressed in the day of judgement. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Michael |
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a) What a godly man Paul was! He was able to say that his readers should be followers of him (1Cor 11:1). It seems that just a Christ is a stepping stone to God, so Paul is to Christ. He’s a wonderful example.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to David |
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11:1 The call to the Corinthians to be followers of Paul echoes 1Cor 4:16 - but it was not the sort of following that others sought as Paul wishes his ‘followers’ to imitate Jesus. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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V.9 Paul uses another argument, going back to creation. (Gen 18:21-22) Just as spiritual Israel, the bride, is made for Christ, and yet in both the natural and the spiritual creations, the bride, while made for the bridegroom, in fulfilling that end, attains her own true glory and brings shame and dishonor on herslf by any departure from it. (1Cor 11:4,6) John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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PROCLAIM THE LORD'S DEATH
"For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the lord's death until he comes." (1Cor 11:26)
Perhaps, like me, you have either not given "proclaiming the Lord's death" much thought, or have skimmed over it thinking that what we do when we share bread and wine at church is like a sort of re-enactment to remind us of what he has done. Perhaps proclaiming the Lord's death is much more than eating bread and drinking wine.
The word "Proclaim" is translated a number of different ways: telling, preach, and reported, are some of them. This maybe gives a hint as to what Paul is talking about. The idea of proclaiming, preaching, telling or reporting means that there is another party involved. Just as a story teller likes to tell a story and needs someone to listen to him, so our taking of the bread and cup should be an outward show to others of what happened to Jesus.
Paul talks later of outsiders coming in to our meetings. (1Cor 14:23-25) When they do this, the words that are spoken and our actions should give the game away. Those who observe this ritual should be in no doubt that Jesus lived a perfect life, died a perfect sacrifice, and was raised from the dead to free sinners from the bondage of sin and death.
Do we proclaim the Lord's death when we eat the bread and drink the cup? Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Robert |
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11:2 Notice the repeated ‘I praise you (not) :2,17,22 The brethren and sisters in Corinth were remembering the death of Jesus – but in most inappropriate ways. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Some contend that v.15 suggests long hair is a sufficient covering for a woman. However, Paul is just contrasting the acceptable state of hair for a man and woman in vs.14 and 15. In v.15, the word covering comes from the Gr. peribolaion which describes something loosely thrown around, like a cloak. Thus, long hair is becoming for a woman. However, the word used for covered in v.6 comes from the Gr. katakalupto which means fully covered. Paul is saying that a woman’s head should not only be covered, but completely covered, hair and all. This should give pause to those women who think it acceptable to throw on a hankie-sized piece of headgear.Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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| For Paul to devote 13 verses to the subject of headcoverings suggests this was a very important issue. Much of the debate nowadays seems to be centred on whether or not women should wear hats, but perhaps the main issue was actually to do with the men? To understand the subject better we need to look back to the traditions in force at the time. Then both Jewish men and women worshipped God with heads covered. The Romans also (men and women) worshipped their gods with heads covered, but the Greeks worshipped their gods with heads uncovered. As the Ecclesia at Corinth would be made up of people from various traditions, it could be there was a mix of practices, and so Paul needed to lay down rules so everything would be done in an orderly manner, and equally importantly so those looking at the Ecclesia from the outside would see this to be the case. For the women the rule to wear a veil would not be so hard, as it was the accepted practice for everyday life. Indeed it would be seen as a shocking thing for a woman to appear on the streets without a veil. Tantamount to having her head shaved, which was the punishment for prostitution. The main change was for the men, who now they had put on Christ were not to worship with head covered, thus showing their reverence for him, and acknowledging Him as their head. How does this translate to our day? Well certainly it is still very important that all things are done decently and in order, not just for us, but also for those that look at us to see the example we set. Verse 10 may help those who are not sure, where the RV has the words "a sign of authority." Perhaps as the men and women are now one in Christ and the men no longer wear anything to show authority, the women now have this role on behalf of both the men and the women? Galatians 3:28 tells us "there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ." Kevin Charlesworth [Milnsbridge UK] Comment added in 2008 reply to Kevin |
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1Cor 11:3 The relationship between the man and woman and Christ is, to us, such a clear thing. However to the Corinthian – and to many cultures today – it was not. Evidence the way that Paul speaks about it elsewhere, focussing on the husband wife relationship – Eph 5:22-33. For us, however, the fact that we understand the principle is not sufficient We must, in this society which is so focussed on equality between the sexes, clearly demonstrate the Christian pattern understanding clearly why we are doing it. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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V.16 We have no such custom is Paul's plain retort to the contentious individual who espouses the idea that it is all right for men to have long hair; for women to pray or prophesy (engage in acts of worship) with their heads uncovered; or for men's heads to be covered while worshipping. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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To eat the Lord's supper, whilst nurturing divisions, is denying the whole reason for that meal. Jesus used most of those last hours before his death to encourage unity and selflessness. So Paul says "you're not eating the Lord's supper, but something else" (v20). Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Rob |
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| 1Cor 11:3 - the head of Christ is God - Christ is not God, he is subject to God. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Charles |
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11:10 The word ‘power’ <1849> carries the sense of ‘authority as can be seen where the same word is used as ‘power’ – 1Cor 9:6 as the RV margin renders it. So the wearing of the covering is a recognition by the sister of her relationship. Given that the relationship we have with Christ is wonderful it follows that we should joy to manifest that in our lives. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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