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Reading 1 - Deuteronomy  5
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v.24 - With hindsight we can relate this verse to our position now in Christ, who has opened up for us, in a similar way to the way that Moses opened it up for the Israelites, a direct way to speak to God. The Israelites of old were too frightened and apprehensive. They knew that if they saw God they would die, and yet here was a reminder of an occasion when they 'saw' and certainly heard God, and were very frightened but lived. See also ch.4:33, Gen.32:30, Ex.33:20, Jud.13:22. We have access and are told that fear is not to enter into it - through faith we are expected to overcome this fear and become bold - Heb.10:19, 1John 4:17.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v. 22 'thick darkness' is a description of the manifestation of Yahweh at different times. Exodus 10:22 20:21 Deuteronomy 4:11 5:22 1 Kings 8:12 2 Chronicles 6:1 So when it is used to speak of the day of the LORD Joel 2:2 Zephaniah 1:15 We see the day of the LORD is a day of His glory being manifest. It is not just mindless punishment. Interestingly His glory is seen in the punishment of Judah. That is, He is justified by His actions.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.3 - It has always been the case that the covenant was for all generations - Gen.17:7 - so it is always true to make the statement that is made here. For each person who is alive at any one time, God's covenant is for them, but for those who have died, their time is over. So let us praise God while we have life. Deut.29:10-15, Psa.105:8-10, Matt.13:17
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
5:5 In saying 'I stood between' when referring to the mater of the golden calf Moses is showing that he was a mediator. Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant. (Hebrews 12:24) Moses was the mediator of the old covenant.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:9 The 'Third and fourth generation' being punished is a characteristic of the wilderness journey. (Exodus 20:5, 34:7, Numbers 14:18) - The third generation perished in Egypt (Ezekiel 20:8) and the fourth generation perished in the wilderness. See Genesis 15:16.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
In the very last verse of this chapter Israel are instructed to "walk in all the ways" that God had instructed them. Amos 3:3; records "Can two walk together, except they be agreed" the answer to this rhetorical question is no. To walk with and to be led by God means that we should be one in mind and purpose with him. Scripture makes it perfectly clear that man without God cannot direct his own steps. We have an example in the New Testament of two individuals who "walked with God"and were blessed in the process, It is recorded in Luke 1:6; that Zechariahs and Elizabeth, "were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless". These were sinners just like the rest of mankind but show us that to walk with God is to obey his commandments and ordinances I.e. all the duties of the faith made known to them, and this was not just an external observance, what motivated them was a sincere love for God and a sincere regard for his law. This is the hallmark of all those who "walk with God".
Roger Sharpe [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Roger

5:6-21 The en commandments are repeated - with some further explanation. Those standing here now would either not have been born, or been too young to fully understand the law when it was first given (Exo 20). So just before Jordan is crossed they are re-presented.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
 V.1 Like yesterday's reading, we have again been given a series of one syllable directions. "HEAR"  "LEARN"  "KEEP"  "DO". We must hear intelligently, and understand what has been spoken, we must allow ourselves to be taught as a child is, then keep them, and allow them to be part of our lifes.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

In  Deut 5:15 God tells Israel that on the Sabbath Day they must think about their deliverance from Egypt.  This is new.  God hadn't included this in the previous laws about the Sabbath.  But Deuteronomy is spoken to the new generation of Israelites. How important it was therefore to be, when they were to dwell in their comfortable houses in their Promised Land.  "Don't forget where you came from, and how I provided for you," God says.


 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David

 

Vs.7-21 The Ten Commandments are repeated from Exodus (Exo 20:3-17).  These are all relevant to the Christian believer except keeping of the sabbath.  Followers of Jesus can override the necessity of keeping this day as the Jews did (Luke 6:5).  The sabbath is still important as it represents God's day of rest.  True believers look forward to God's ultimate day of rest.  This period will occur when Jesus returns to the earth to set up His Kingdom (Psa 118:24).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

5:7       In calling Israel to remember that they should have no other God before Yahweh Israel are being reminded that God wanted an exclusive relationship with them. False worship destroyed that exclusivity. The same is true in our day.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

5:16 ‘Honour thy father and thy mother’ and ‘that it may go well with thee’ are joined by Paul – 6:2 – to show that the principles of the law of Moses applied to those who want to be in the kingdom, just like Israel who, when Moses spoke to them, wanted to enter the land of Canaan.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

V.2 The Israelites first received the Mosaic covenant at Sinai). Now, Moses reiterates it to the new generation of Israelites that is about to enter the land of promise (v.3). Before the Sinaitic covenant, the patriarchs where given the Abrahamic covenant. Christ brought a new covenant which made the Siniatic covenant obsolete (Heb 8:13).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael
 5:27 Once again we have the word "shama (8085)" which has a greater meaning than what we normally associate with the word "HEAR". It means as best as we can relate "hear intelligently". It has been translated "understand" Gen 11:7 "obeyed" Gen 22:18 "hearkened" Gen 3:17. The Children of Israel are being told to hear, to pay attention, and to obey. The lesson still applies to all in the 21st century.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

5:3-4  The generation who are about to enter into the land of Canaan were no older than 20 when the law was given at Horeb. In fact many of them would probably not remember what took place as they were either too young or not even born at that time. So Moses prevents them reasoning that they did not agree to the terms of the covenant by telling them that God spoke to them.  The word of God is relevant to all, whether present at the time it was spoken or not.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

5:9-10 Notice the contrast between the consequences of sin and the benefits of obedience. Whereas iniquity is punished for the third and fourth generation – those who came out of Egypt and those who died in the wilderness’ God’s mercy is limitless.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.4 The phrase face to face is figurative (Deut 4:12,15).

Vs.7-21 Here the Ten Commandments (Decalogue) are outlined again. The number ten is the number of completeness.

Vs.22-27 The voice of Yahweh announcing the Ten Commandments to Israel was a frightening experience (Exo 20:18,19). Contrast this with the way Yahweh speaks with His chosen individuals (1Kin 19:11,12).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael
Deut 5:16;Matt 15:2-4;Mark 7:10;Eph 6:2-3.   Deut 5:16-20;Matt 19:16-19;Mark 10:19;Luke 18:18-23.    Deut 5:17-18;James 2:10-11.   Deut 5:17-19,21;Rom 13:9.   Deut 5:21;Rom 7:7.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles

5:13-14 In the wilderness, as a homogenous group, sabbath observance would have been relatively easy to observe. All one’s neighbours would have been keeping the sabbath. Peer pressure would encourage sabbath observance. However once in the land and dispersed throughout it the nation would have been more fragmented thus sabbath observance would have been easier to violate. Hence the repeating of the sabbath law just before Israel crossed Jordan into their inheritance.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 2 - Ecclesiastes 1
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v.10 - The point that Solomon is making here is not that no-one ever invents anything that did not exist before - even in Solomon's day this would clearly have been untrue - but that human nature will never improve, and that each generation will not learn from the mistakes of the previous one. His writings are designed, as far as possible, to encourage those who are wise to notice this trait of human nature and work on it privately and seriously within themselves, thereby allowing God to shape our hearts and our lives towards everlasting peace in his kingdom. Matt.23:30-32, Luke 17:26-30, Acts 7:51,
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.2 'vanity of vanities' as a phrase only occurs twice in the book of Ecclesiastes here and 12:8 And nowhere else in Scripture Notice how 'all is vanity' is seen at the beginning and then once at the end of the book. here,1:14 2:17 3:19 12:8 This phrase does not occur outside the book of Ecclesiastes. The phrase and word seem to be marks of the objective of the book.
v.13 The seeming all embracing phrase 'under heaven' has a quite specific use in Scripture. The following references demonstrate the universality of Yahweh's judgement. Genesis 6:17 Exodus 17:14 Deuteronomy 7:24 9:14 25:19 29:20 2 Kings 14:27 Not that it always speaks of the whole world as a place but rather that the judgement that is to come is complete Thus the use here extends this principle to speak of those things which are happening in His domain. The two New Testament references Acts 4:12 Colossians 1:23 expand the theme to show that the Father is indeed concerned with salvation for those who will see that life without Christ is vanity. 'travail' here 2:23,26 3:10 4:4,6,8 5:14 The cyclical nature of our experience has been generated by our creator that we might learn from it. Those experiences are actually part of His chastening. Hebrews 12:11 Therefore these things which, from a natural point of view, are profitable. However it requires a particular frame of mind to benefit. We must have the frame of mind which acknowledges that our Father chastens us. Hebrews 12:5-8

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
1:13 Exercised therewith is quoted in Hebrews 12:11 in the context of chastening. This teaches us that the circumstances of life are used by God to develop in us a character which pleases Him. The whole of the book of Ecclesiastes is teaching us that God works n our lives. If we see His hand we see a point in life. If we do not see His hand then life seems pointless.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.4 substantiates the point we were making above, that we are but transcient beings in the eternity of God's purpose, unless, of course, we choose to accept His offer of a part in it. The whole issue of Ecclesiastes is to discuss and examine the futile nature of the work we do in this life, and to make us realise, by stark contrast, the wonder of the life to come. 2Pet.3:10-13
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:1 Whilst there is some discussion as to who wrote Ecclesiastes the way that the 'preacher' describes himself as 'son of David, king in Jerusalem' we are safe in concluding that Solomon is the author of the book.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
Solomon in this chapter has recorded how he had applied his heart to "search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven" and goes on to say that "this is a sore travail that God has given to the sons of men to be exercised therewith". This word travail is only found in the book of Ecclesiastes but it is clear from the way this word travail is used that this is speaking about the curse of God place upon man in the garden of Eden. What this is implying is that man left to his own devices cannot find out the wisdom of God. Divine wisdom, Proverbs tells us is that which is given by the Lord God for "out of his mouth cometh knowledge and wisdom". This true wisdom only comes through that which God has revealed. Through prayer and regular consistent reading of his word we can grow in knowledge and understanding.Solomon began to flaunt and abuse the wisdom of God. In doing this he showed that he did not fear the God of Israel and it took a lifetime for Solomon to come to the conclusion that Gods wisdom can only be discerned and reflected by those who fear him and obey his commandments.
Roger Sharpe [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Roger
1:8 How true this is! No matter what we have we always want more. Have we noticed that the more we have the more anxieties we have?  do you ever reflect on your life and think that it was easier in the past when you had less responsibilities? It is very difficult, if not impossible, to move back. We should think about this as we aquire possessions or status and responsibility in life.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
 As we begin to read through the book of Ecclesiastes, we may be asking ;What is the purpose of the book? Through out the history of man, they have sought to solve the problem of what is human happiness. The problem is still with us, today, men and women still seek the answer. The book of Ecclesiastes provides us with the account of one of the greatest attempts made to solve the problem, when it was undertaken by Solomon; it also gives us lessons that Solomon learnt from his experiment. Let each one of us take the opportunity to learn what the wise man learnt and his conclusion."Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

If Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes (as is generally accepted) then it would underscore the important point that wisdom and knowledge alone are not sufficient to worship God correctly (vs. 17,18). 

Solomon had wisdom and knowledge more than anyone else of his time (1Kin 3:12) and yet he sinned against Yahweh.  For example, he amassed horses (1Kin 4:26) which was against the Law (Deut 17:16), and women which turned away his heart from Yahweh (1Kin 11:1-3; Deut 17:17). 

The fear of Yahweh is the cornerstone to the correct application of wisdom and knowledge (Psa 111:10; Prov 1:7).  Solomon had forgotten that and had become embroiled in the pride of life (1John 2:16).  Perhaps Yahweh added riches to Solomon's request for understanding as a trial (1Kin 3:13).  When we ask Yahweh for wisdom and knowledge, let us use them to reflect His glory and not our own.

V.4 guarantees that the earth itself will never be destroyed.

Vs.9,10 are talking about human nature and behavior which have never changed since Adam.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
Solomon was king in Jerusalem, and he set his heart to find out, by the wisdom God had given him, the meaning of life (Ecc 1:12-18).  Life, he realised, is short. When we have gone others will take our place. So, the lesson for us must be, make the most of every moment God has given us.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

1 An overall view of the book of Ecclesiastes teaches us that life is either futile or there is purpose. How we view life is determined by whether we recognise God at work in our lives or not. If we do not see Him at work then our lives seem futile. If we do see God working in our lives then things take on a totally different perspective.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
V.18 Both "Wisdom" and "Knowledge" are excellent in their place. Perhaps, the best place to fully appreciate what is being spoken of here is by going back to the account of the exodus (Exo 31:3; 6). Here we are being told of the skills given to both Bezallel and Aholiah for the building of the Tabernacle. However, the greater the wisdom and knowledge one obtains of the ways of man (Ecc 1:13; 17), which the further it goes, gives one greater pain to see how "crooked" and "wanting "  they are ( Ecc 1:15, Ecc 12:12). 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John
V.6 - it was not known 200 years ago and possibly not understood until much more recently that winds whirl around in a circular pattern while continuing on their course. Here we have what appears to be an accurate scientific understanding of rotating wind and weather patterns circa 977 BC. The wind mentioned could also refer to wind currents, perhaps even the jet stream.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Charles

1:3The question ‘what profit …’ highlights that without an appreciation of God’s involvement in one’s life it is an endless, pointless cycle. This view has to be contrasted with Ecc 1:13 which shows that life is a learning experience.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

Solomon muses that life is full of futility and paradox. What's the point of it? Yahweh's creation continues in its endless cycle, but what does man gain? He comes and goes - but for what purpose? Who can understand it all? Is it worth trying to find out, or is this in itself a futile pursuit which can only bring pain? Seen, alone, in the light of man's post-Eden experience, life is useless. But, God has a plan for man beyond this present existence.  Understanding His plan puts everything into perspective, and gives hope to those who believe Yahweh.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

1:4-8  This is the first of a number of series of cyclical events recorded by the ‘preacher’.  They are designed to highlight that life is cyclical. The cycles we experience are all designed to teach us one thing. Life without God is vanity – empty.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

1:17-18 This seemingly negative presentation of the emptiness of life has to be seen against the background of not seeing God at work in one’s life. For that is what life is like without God. The contrasts has already been given in 1:13 where the events of this life, for the servant of God, are beneficial.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.1 The Preacher can be linked to Solomon via v.12. Preacher in Hebrew is koheleth which means collector, convener, assembler, and lecturer. In other words, this person collects and assembles a congregation to give public lectures. The interesting thing is that koheleth is a feminine word.

V.3 Solomon starts a diatribe on the usefulness of life. But, if we fast forward, we will find that his conclusion is significant (12:13,14).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

1:11 That there is ‘no remembrance’ catches the sentiments of the Psalmist – Psa 6:5 – and passes into Ecclesiastes as a recurring theme wit the final contrasting exhortation in Ecc 12:1‘remember thy creator’ – as if whatever else is forgotten our Creator must be remembered.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - John  17 and 18
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17 v.3 - Jesus prays first for all flesh, as every human being has the chance to turn to him, that they might know him, although later in v. 25 this prayer is more specifically aimed at those he knew had already responded and would continue to respond (Judas has gone now) ch.13:30, leaving Jesus the opportunity to speak all of the deep and wonderful words of chs.14-16 to them, which were not appropriate to Judas, and allowing him now to pray for them specifically. He prays for us here too. Let us remember that. 1Chr.28:9, Ps.9:10, Isa.53:11, Jer.9:23,24, 31:33,34, 1John 5:11,12,20.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

17 v.17 By asking the Father to sanctify his disciples 'though thy truth' and then commenting 'thy word is truth' Jesus indicates the route through which our sanctification comes. There is no mystical operation on our minds. What is required is our application to the Scriptures.

18 v.1 The crossing of the Cedron matches David's flight from Jerusalem from Absalom 2 Samuel 15:23 [the only other occasion in Scripture when crossing the Cedron is mentioned]. The gospel records wish us to see Jesus identifying with David. So when Jesus goes to prayer he withdraws a stone's cast [Luke 22:41] which echoes Shimei 2 Samuel 16:6. Jesus words 'thy will be done' Matthew 26:42] echo the sentiments of David's realisation of God's involvement in his life [2 Samuel 15:25-26].


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

17:9, 11 We might think that Jesus, having spent the night in prayer, actually chose the disciples himself we see here that actually he realised that they had been given to him by his Father. Do we think that God is involved in providing for our needs or do we think that we achieve everything by our own efforts?

18:17, 25, 27 We are all familiar with the fact that Peter denied his lord three times. However there is a stark contrast between Peter and Judas. Judas betrayed his lord - the betrayal of Judas is alluded to elsewhere in Scripture (1 Corinthians 11:23) whilst the denials of Peter are never mentioned again.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

17:2 'hast ... all flesh' quotes Psalm 8:6 beginning the New Testament application of this Psalm to the lord Jesus.

18:12 In binding Jesus we see fulfilled the type seen in Isaac (Genesis 22:9) Another link with the offering is 'and it was early' quoting Genesis 22:3


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
In John 17:1; we are told that Jesus "lifted his eyes up to heaven" and prayed to his father.
Why did Jesus do this? Well this was the night before his crucifixion and yet Jesus' concern was not for himself, for this prayer reflects his love and concern for his disciples and for those who would believe the gospel through their preaching. In understanding this background it is quite possible that Jesus was focusing on one of the promises made to Abraham. Gen 15:5; And God Brought Abraham Forth and said to him "Look now toward heaven and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them and he said unto him, so shall thy seed be". The prayer of Jesus harmonises beautifully with the promise God made to Abraham. Jesus was looking forward to the time when this seed being one with him and his father, would be with him and behold his glory in the coming Kingdom of God.

Roger Sharpe [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Roger
17:1 "The hour has come." This was the hour in which the son of man would terminate his labors by rendering the one and only atoning sacrifice for the sin of mankind; the hour of fulfilling prophecies, types, and symbols; the hour of triumph over sin; the hour of dismissing the old and of ushering in of the new dispensation. 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

17:2 God 'gave' Jesus his disciples. This is a recurring theme in this chapter (17:6,9,11,24). Do we think of ourselves as having been given to Jesus by God? That is what our calling is all about.

18:3 Judas was not simply a pawn in the capture of Jesus. Notice he was the one who was entrusted with the 'band of men'. This was the mind of Ahithophel (2Sam 17:1-3)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

 

17:9 Jesus was, and still is, only concerned with those who are His.  Firstly, these were His disciples  and then those believers to whom his disciples taught the true gospel (17:20).  He is not concerned with anyone else.

Jesus had asked His followers to purchase a sword, which they did (Luke 22:36,38).  He did this not as a defensive manoeuver but as an object lesson.  It was to show His followers not to use force to resist the evil in their lives (18:10,11,36).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
18:1 Having left the house, Jesus, in company of eleven disciples crossed the Kedron. This reminds one of David's flight before Absolom, but there is this great difference; Jesus was in complete control of the situation. He was not fleeing. His entire procedure was voluntary. He knew that Judas would meet him there. So he went there!
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

17:15   In praying that the disciples should be kept from evil Jesus is actually implementing the words of his own prayer that we should learn – Matt 5:13

 

18:5     The comment that ‘Judas stood with them’ is not merely an indication that Judas was there. He chose to stand with the wicked rather than with Jesus. He was not heeding the counsel of Psa 1:1


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

17:6 In speaking of the disciples as those ‘which thou gavest me’ Jesus is drawing attention to Isa 8:18 where Isaiah prophesies that Jesus’ disciples will be given to him by his Father rather than just being his own choice.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
Annas had been High Priest, and had now deferred to Caiaphas his son in law (John 18:13,14). But it seems that he was the wise old man, the power behind the throne. That is why the leaders took Jesus to Annas first, in the hope that they could formulate some charge that would justify the death sentence. Other versions then say “Then Annas sent him …” in John 18:24.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to David

 

18:4  Jesus' self-control was remarkable considering that He knew in advance what was going to happen to Him.  He knew the scriptures pertaining to events surrounding Him. For example, the confrontation of Judas with the band of men (18:3) had been described in Isa 50:11. It is a good thing that we do not know the future events concerning ourselves. Unlike Jesus, we do not have the character to handle it.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

 

18:22,23 Contrast Christ's reaction to being struck with that of Paul's in a similar situation (Acts 23:2-5). Christ did not react, even though He could have made the legitimate argument that He was the true High Priest. Paul had not yet learned how to react like his Lord (1Pet 2:21-23).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

18:19  In seeking the deliverance of the disciples Jesus is seeking to help to bring to pass the words he had spoken in John 17:12. We should not just pray for something and then simply sit back and wait. If we pray we should also seek to create the circumstances where the prayer can be fulfilled.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

17:9,16  Many sincere people believe that Jesus is their savior automatically. But, Jesus said: And you are my friends if you do what I command you (John 15:14). That means it is important to understand the true Gospel, be baptized, and continue living in the ways of Jesus.

These steps have to be taken for Jesus to become one’s savior. He is not the automatic savior of the world, as some suppose.

That is the reason Jesus only cares for His own followers and does not pray for the world. If we do not do what He says, according to what is written in the Bible, then we have no claim on Him, and we are not His.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

17:4 When the work of building the tabernacle – the dwelling place for God – was finished – Exo 40:33 – the glory cloud filed the tabernacle. In like manner when Jesus had ;finished’ his work he was glorified and given the Divine nature.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
John 17:3 First Principles>The God we worship
The Bible reveals God to be the Creator and Sustainer of all things. He dwells in the heavens in unapproachable light. He is all powerful, all wise, a God of love, mercy, holiness, righteousness and truth. God is a unity.
1. The importance of the subject
John 17:3 Life eternal. Jer 9:23-24
2. The Unity of God - see separate entry below.
3. The attributes of God - go to
Psa 148:1-5
4. The doctrine of God Manifestation - go to John 1:18
5. The Name of Yahweh - this was given in Exo 3:14
6. God is manifest in His son Psa 89:24-29
7. The Bible is God's revelation - go to 2Tim 3:15-17
8. Concerning Jesus - go to Matt 3:17
9. The Name of Jesus Christ - go to Matt 1:21
First Principles> For more first principle topics, go to Acts 8:12
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

 

17:5 This verse is often used to prove that Jesus was God.

Consider the phrase talking about the glory Jesus had: with thee before the world was. Doesn’t that prove that Jesus was co-equal with God?

Let us examine the preposition with. In Greek, with is para, which can also be translated from. There are many places in the New Testament where this is so. For example, when Paul received his authority from the chief priests, that word translated from is para (Acts 9:14; 26:10,12).

And so, Jesus received His glory and authority from His Father. That glory and authority existed before the world was because God knows the end from the beginning of all things. But, the glory and the authority were only dispensed when Jesus, the man, was born.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

In chapter 17 Jesus prays for his followers. In 17:9 he makes the distinction: "I pray for them. I do not pray for the world". In 17:14 he says that because he has given his followers the word of God, the world will hate them. So there is enmity between one and the other. Throughout this prayer we can see the continual reinforcement of this truth: that salvation is not universal. Whilst during his ministry Jesus had said "I came to save the world" (12:46-48) and in 3:17 "that the world through him might be saved", he now carefully defines who in the world will be saved. The world itself will remain condemned unless it accepts the word which has been given to the followers of Jesus Christ (again see 12:48, 18:36, 3:16-18).

So we each have a choice: accept fully the words of Jesus delivered to the apostles, and through the scriptures delivered to us; or don't accept them and remain in the world. The world which Jesus came to save rejected him, and therefore forfeits the salvation he came to give. Only by coming away from this world, to a "virtual" world away with Jesus, can we escape its judgement (17:15-16, 24). This is in effect a world of words, described in Heb 12:22-24 as a heavenly congregation. We gain entry to this virtual world of words when we daily absorb the words of God, gather with likeminded people to reflect on these words, and through them come to know God and his son 17:3,8.


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

18:14 We are now reminded of what Caiaphas had said – John 11:48 – to show how he unwittingly prophesied Jesus’ death.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

v13  When they returned to Jerusalem, they would presumably have re-traced the steps described in verse 1 - that is they would have crossed Kidron.  Kidron was known in Josiah's time as a burial place. 2Ki 22:6, Jer 26:23.

Since there would have been no bridge, in a sense, Jesus put death under his feet as he crossed on the way to his own death and resurrection.


Ken Trelfer [Kettering, UK]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Ken