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| This chapter shows
us just how quickly after sanctification people naturally turn away from God.
All of us have this very same nature. We all desire the 'accursed things' whatever
they are for us. We sanctify ourselves daily in prayer, and yet turn away to our
own evil thoughts and practices. Any evil of this sort should be removed permanently
(v.15,25)
and should be done without hesitation (v.16).
How much we need the grace and mercy of God! Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.1
In coveting some of the accursed thing Achan tried to deceive his
God. In this Ananias and Sapphira were the same. They kept back part
of the money that they received when they sold their land [Acts
5:2]. They were summarily
judged by the One who sees all. Our covetousness may manifest itself in equally
unacceptable ways for Paul told Titus [Titus
2:10] that we should
not purloin which is the same word translated kept back
in Acts
5:2 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.2 - Ai (05857)=
"a heap of ruins" - Bethaven (01007)=
"the house of vanity". There is much to be added to our quality of knowledge
by realising these things. Removed, we are told, to the east of Bethel (01008)=
"the house of God", these two cities stand away from the truth in the
hands of men and their thinking. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 7:24
Have you noticed in this detailed description of the removal of Achan and his
family and goods that there is no mention of a wife? What does this signify? Was
he a widower or was his wife not party to his deeds and so was spared? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| DEVOTED TO
DESTRUCTION When Achan sinned by taking some of the devoted things from Jericho and keeping them for himself, God gave Israel and ultimatum. He said, "I will not be with you any more unless you destroy whatever among you is devoted to destruction." (v 12) Fortunately we are not in a position to be tempted by the riches of a city devoted to destruction. However, Paul reminds us that in our human nature there are certain things that are devoted to destruction. He says, "Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry." And then he continues, "But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage malice, slander and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other." (Colossians 3 v 5 - 10). The things that Paul has just listed for us are the things in our lives devoted to destruction. It will be a lifetimes work to remove them all from our lives but we must always ensure that we are making progress and eliminating the piece by piece. God said he would not be with Israel. He does not say the same to us. Instead he says that "those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." (Galatians 5 v 21). So let us destroy the things that are devoted to destruction in our lives and replace them with truly Godly qualities. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Robert |
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Achan was a descendant of the one who was born to Tamar. Zarah was the one wearing
the 'scarlet thread' (Genesis
38:30). A 'scarlet thread' was hung out of Rahab's window. A rarely used phrase.
So we should see the link between Genesis 38 and the deliverance of Rahab. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 7:21 One wonders when Achan thought he would be able to wear the garment he had taken from Jericho! The lesson for us is that there is no value coveting things from the world. We cannot share them with our brethren. We have to keep them hidden from our brethren and sisters and eventually they will be our downfall. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.3 As the population of Ai amounted to twelve thousand. (Josh 8:25) It was a large town. In a hasty and distant observation made by the spies, it probanly appeared small in comparison to Jericho; this may have been the reason for their proposing so small a detachment to capture it. We see in tomorrow's reading that they did take Ai. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| Jericho was the firstfruits of the cities. That possibly explains why Achan's sin was so bad. He stole from God. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to David |
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Achan sinned, and the consequences of his sin affected the community. Yahweh was not with Israel until the matter had been cleared. Similarly, we must realize that our actions affect not only ourselves but our community. It is the responsibility of the community to deal with any member's actions which negatively impact it (1Cor 5:6,7). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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7:21 Achan’s sin is likened to that of Eve – Gen 2:6 ‘saw’ ‘coveted’ – (desired) ‘took’. So we see one of what will be come a number of occasions in Scripture when others emulate Eve’s sin. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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7:1,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26 - v1 - Achan took some of the devoted things; v19-26- Achan admits his guilt but all Israel stoned him in the Valley of Achor (NIV notes "Achor" means "trouble"); v24 - an interesting note is Achan was the son of Zerah and we remember (Gen 38:28-30) Zerah had a scarlet chord on his wrist and was thus a sign of Christ's sacrifice applying; Hos 2:14,15,19,20,23 - perhaps Achan will be in the kingdom as the valley of Achor is called here the Valley of Hope, thus the scarlet chord perhaps applies to Achan too. 7:5,6,7,8,10 - Joshua becomes depressed and somewhat goes to pieces after an unexpected defeat. In v10 the Lord says "Stand up!" thus providing practical advice for us when we are depressed, disappointed, despondent, etc. that we are to pick ourselves up, be active, and not wallow in an imobilized state that will only make our depression worse...naturally, this is not to suggest that medical intervention may not be necessary in some situations. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Charles |
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V.2 After the sacking of Jericho, the next step was to penetrate into the hills above. Accordingly, spies went up the mountain pass to view the country. The precise site of Ai, or Hai, is pointed out to us in Gen 12:8, Gen 13:3 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to John |
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Yahweh is capable of successfully achieving any goal alone. But, when He works with His people, He helps in the process rather than doing everything Himself. It is an exercise of faith. For example, when Israel fought its enemies, it was with the help of Yahweh (Deut20:3,4 ).Yahweh knew that it was Achan who had sinned. He could have indicated that fact directly to Joshua. However, He involved Joshua in a process of elimination, with His help. The tribe of the offender was indicated (v.14). The phrase the LORD taketh literally means the LORD chooses by lot. There are many examples of this procedure, in the Bible, where it appears man's doing but is actually direction by Yahweh (Prov 16:33). Later, we shall see Joshua using this method to divide the land into tribal allotments (Josh 13:6). Achan was executed for his sin together with his family and possessions (v.24). His sons and daughters must have abetted him in the sin (Deut 24:16). There is no mention of his wife, who if alive at the time, would not have had complicity. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Michael |
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7:11 Whilst it was just Achan who had taken the spoil from Jericho as far as God was concerned all the nation had been involved. –‘Israel hath sinned’ ‘they’ ‘their’. That God did nothing immediately and the whole nation suffered when they came to take Ai indicates that some at least in the nation were aware of what Achan had did but had said nothing to Joshua. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| HIGH PRICE Achan probably thought that the souvenirs he stole from Jericho would not affect anyone. After all, a robe, a piece of silver and a piece of gold were not going to be missed by anyone. And after a few more cities had been conquered, no one would know where they came from - then Achan's secret would be safe. Not in his wildest dreams did Achan realise the cost of his coveting and stealing. God had seen what he did and the consequences would be paid. As a result of Achan's sin, thirty six men lost their lives. But that was not all. Israel fled before their enemies - a thing they would have thought impossible just the day before. He caused the courage of Israel to melt and the LORD to leave his people as they attempted to conquer the land. It also led to Achan's public humiliation, his death and the death of his whole family. Was a Babylonian garment, a piece of gold and a piece of silver worth the price that was paid? I think not. Just as Achan's secret sin had big repercussions, so ours can be just as deadly. We may think that no one will find out, but God sees our every move. The cost of sin is far too high. Let's choose not to sin so that neither we, nor anyone else, has to pay for the consequences of our actions. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Robert |
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7:16 Whilst the selection process was taking place Achan clearly knew that he was the one to blame – unless he had persuaded himself that his behaviour was not sinful. So he must have known that he would be found out, yet he remained silent. How often do we, when our heart convict us, remain silent? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Achan , whose name means troubler, was personally responsible for the sin at Jericho. Nevertheless, Yahweh judged the community as a whole. Notice that He said Israel has sinned not Achan (v.11).He knew that it was Achan who sinned but, nevertheless, indicted the whole nation. The lesson to be gleaned here is that the people of God are responsible for the welfare and conduct of their fellows. Yahweh is interested in His people as a whole. That is not to say that the individual sinner would not be punished for his or her sins (as was ultimately evident in the case of Achan). However, the exercise would serve to show that one sinner in the community can adversely impact all members of that community. Therefore, it is incumbent on members of the community to be vigilant towards the bad behavior of their fellow community members as well as their own, and correct the situation as soon as possible. It also behoves the leaders of the community not to compromise the welfare of its members. David did just that when he committed sin in numbering the people. His sin cost the lives of 70,000 Israelites despite pleas for his punishment alone (2Sam 24:1,13,15,17). The same principles outlined above apply, equally, to members of Christ’s ecclesia. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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7:4 No mention that God gave any instructions! The people just did as they wanted. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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V.1 The injunction had been made not to take any personal booty from Jericho (6:17-19). This was the first divine campaign in the land of Canaan and Yahweh was sending a message to the inhabitants of Canaan not to expect any mercy as His people expanded their presence. He was also sending a message to His people that any spoil would be given to them by His command only. In the very next campaign, against Ai, Yahweh would allow His people to take personal booty (8:2,27). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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The tale of two brothers When you think about how many people are mentioned in the Bible, you begin to realise how little is said about each. God is selective with what He tells us because He's making specific, important points for us to learn. So no word is lost in the scriptures. So what does God mean by calling Achan "the son of Zerah" in v24? In Gen 38:27-30 we have the tale of twin brothers. As they were being born, one was coming out first, but drew back (Zerah). One was last but struggled to come out first (Perez). In this chapter a big deal is made of the firstborn, and of two phrases in particular. A scarlet thread is placed around the wrist of Zerah as he came out: but then he drew back. Perez was last but broke through. In Hebrews we are told that only those who draw near to God will be saved (Heb 10:22) and those who draw back will be destroyed (Heb 10:39). The rest of the chapter mentions Achan in detail (Heb 10:26-31). There is, then, in scripture a clear commentary on the birth of these boys. They represent those who draw near/break through to God, or draw back from Him, even though at the time they knew nothing of it. The lesson for us is clear. If we draw near to God in faith we will be accepted, like Jesus the son of Perez (Matt 1:3-16). If, however, we come to know God and accept Jesus His son, and then turn back, we will perish as Achan the son of Zerah (Heb 10:28-29). Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Rob |
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| Josh 7:19 (NIV - a solemn charge to tell the truth);John 9:24. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Charles |
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7:3 ‘Let not all the people go up’ indicates that Israel were looking for an easy life rather than waiting for God to advise them what to do. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| v.1
- The word translated rod here 02415
is only used twice in scripture, here
and Prov.14:3. This is all we have to discover its meaning. Given the use
in Proverbs, is this saying, like Isa.53:2,
that Jesus would not be comely to look upon - ie. as ugly, as it were, as the
pride of man? I pick this up to point out that this word is different from all
other uses of rod in scripture. The significance of this may be totally different.
This is just an idea. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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The phrase 'meek of the earth' [Psalm
76:9 here Zephaniah 2:3] Provides comfort to those who are struggling to maintain
His standards in a difficult environment. The Psalm shows, in principle, that
He is concerned for those who are 'meek' in that He has already saved some in
this position. Isaiah shows that His judgment will be on behalf of those. Zephaniah
shows a specific occasion - the Babylonian invasion - which will manifest His
care for the 'meek'. This is why Jesus says 'blessed are the meek ...' [Matthew
5:5] Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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- It is a matter of amazement to me that God recognises the worth of David so
much as to describe Jesus as a branch from his root. Jesus, who was to be the
saviour of the world is here presented as 'growing from' David, so giving David
a place of great honour in the purpose of God. This place of honour is afforded
to all who are written in God's book of life, and we do well to rememeber that,
expecially at times of feeling the weight of our own inadequacy. God forgives,
and forgets, as we can see here. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :14-15
The association of Edom, Moab, and Ammon is matched in Daniel
11:41. The destruction of the 'Egyptian sea' is matched in Dan
11:42. The battle described here in Isaiah is the same battle Daniel speaks
of.11:10
In mentioning the gentiles specifically here I think that this is the first time
that Isaiah has spoken so clearly about the call of the gentiles, which becomes
a major theme of the prophecy. These words are quoted (Romans
15:12) as part of Paul's inspired reasoning that the gentiles were always
part of Gods plan of redemption. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| JESUS AS KING It is not IF it happens, but WHEN. Jesus will return to rule over the earth as King. But he will not be like all the kings who have been before - self centered, greedy, weak, tyrannical, unjust, driven by power and wealth, oppressive or stupid. On the contrary His reign will be in wisdom and understanding, in the knowledge and power of God. He will be righteous and just, firm and faithful. In short, Jesus will be the most perfect king that has ever ruled over the earth. But it doesn't stop there because unlike all the other kings that have been in the past, Jesus will be immortal - he will never die and his reign will never come to an end, it will last for ever and ever. And there is more again. There will be perfect peace right throughout his kingdom among all the people of the earth because his kingdom will cover the earth. That peace will also extend to the animal kingdom and in Isaiah 11 we read that most beautiful passage of when the wolf will dwell with the lamb and so on. It is worth reading again. But the question for us is this. Will Jesus be your king? Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Robert |
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The association of Edom, Moab, and Ammon is matched in Daniel
11:41. The destruction of the 'Egyptian sea' is matched in Dan
11:42. The battle described here in Isaiah is the same battle Daniel speaks
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| V.5 The prophets did much to keep alive the expectation of a great priest-king. Isaiah in this verse gives us a description of the reign of Messiah. It is interesting to note that only the priest wore two girdles: Lev 8:7 Other than the mention of the girdle there is no indication of a duel role of both King and Priest. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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The two fold use of this verse in Luke where it is applied to Jesus further confirms our understanding that this chapter speaks of Messiah. In particular we learn something of his childhood from this part of Isaiah 11. On reading the chapter it will be seen that the chapter speaks of his kingdom ( 11:4) and the way he will judge the world (11:4) and even the involvement of the gentiles in his kingdom (11:10) Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| DELIGHT IN THE LORD In this wonderful prophecy of the Messiah and of the glories of his reign, is a little phrase we may have passed over as we tried to absorb the fantastic changes that are coming on this earth. Speaking of Jesus, Isaiah says, "And he will delight in the fear of the LORD." (Isa 11:3) There are few people in this world of whom that can be said - and probably even fewer leaders. To discover what this really means, we should think about the things that we delight in. We may delight in good conversation, in infectious laughter, or music. We may delight in sport, entertainment, or art. We delight in the things we are drawn to, the things we talk about, and the things we think about when our mind is free to wander. Our delight is shown in the kinds of people we keep company with - and often their delight will be shared with us. Jesus delights in the fear of the LORD, and it is with people who are like-minded with him that he wants to keep company. Our aim must be to be like Jesus. We need to make sure that our delight is in the fear of the LORD. This means that God will be on our minds and hearts, that we will want to keep company with like-minded people who also have the fear of the LORD as their delight, that we will want to honour an obey him, to lift him up in praise, and to worship him. Let's be true followers of Jesus, delighting in the fear of the LORD. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Robert |
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| In Isa 11:6-9 we have five verses all about animals living in peace in the Kingdom. Do the animals refer to nations? If they do, and it’s possible to follow this idea right through from the Garden of Eden, where no animal was a good enough companion for Adam (= Christ), and so the bride (= the ecclesia) was formed from his side, then what do we find in today’s chapter? The nations will be at peace with Christ (the little child Isa 11:6) leading them. Jesus will control sin, putting his hand on the serpent’s den (Isa 11:8). That is what the Kingdom is all about. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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11:9 The earth being full of the knowledge of the earth develops the assurance that God gave to Israel as they were turned back into the wilderness Num 14:21 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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V.1 The Branch is a clear reference to the Messiah, Jesus. The Hebrew word for Branch is netzar. Matthew quotes the prophets as having called Jesus a Nazarene ( Matt 2:23). However, there seems not to be a reference in the Old Testament that qualifies this. It is true that Jesus' home town was Nazareth and, therefore, He was a Nazarene. But where is the prophetical reference? It is right here in Isaiah 11:1. Netzar is the root word for Nazarene (and also Nazareth).Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Michael |
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The holy mountain described in Isa 11:9 is Zion. In Hebrews 12:22-24 it is revealed to us that this doesn't mean the literal mountain, but the assembly of the saints. Thus this prophecy is describing the way in which the saints would behave towards one another in the assembly or congregation. We know the context is the present day because it speaks of the Gentile nations coming to Christ (v10). The Gentile nations are described as the animals in v6-8, just as they were in Acts 10:9-16, 28. The blessings described here are ours to be had now. Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Rob |
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11:4 "With righteousness shall he judge" is quoted in Rev 19:11 showing that this is speaking of Jesus at his return. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| 11:6 When we consider that each animal is coupled with its material prey, (lamb of the wolf, the kid of the leopard, the calf of the lion), we have developed a greater appreciation of this word picture of the world being at peace or rest. This is the day that we all pray will come about shortly, when the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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LIKE JESUS
The catch phrase, "What Would Jesus Do?" is a good one to live by. It takes us out of the realm of selfishness, self seeking, right away from our human natures, and helps us to place our focus for the things that we do on higher principles. Reading through the gospels gives us a good idea of what Jesus was like and how he acted, so giving us a great example of the way we should live our lives. But there is more. Isaiah 11 is one of those extra places where the answer to "What would Jesus Do?" shines out at us.
The following words describing Jesus are the ones that stood out for me: "He will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. ... Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist." (Isa 11:2-5)
Let's make sure we follow Jesus' example by delighting ourselves in the fear of the LORD. Making God real in every circumstance will help us fear the LORD. Realising that he sees the whole picture when we only see a portion of it, will stop us from being so judgemental on others. Keeping in mind those less well off than ourselves is the way Jesus worked and the way we should work, being righteous and faithful all the way.
Let's be like Jesus, living as he would live. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Robert |
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11:11 This is one of the many Old Testament passages that associates the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth with the deliverance of natural Israel. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Vs.6-9 This shows a wonderful glimpse of the Kingdom. The present hostility in the natural world will be changed to produce peaceful co-existence between all creatures. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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11:12 The ‘ensign’ is not a flag or some such thing. The word has been used already in verse :10 and clearly is speaking of Jesus when he returns to the earth. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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| v 10-12 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Restoration clearly foretold In Eze 21:25-27 UNTIL indicates a limitation to the overturning. Go there for more prophecies about Israel's restoration. Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Roger |
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V.2 Jesus was given the Holy Spirit without measure (John 3:34). V.5 Allusion is made here to the girdle of the High Priest which keeps intact His holy clothing (Exo 28:4). The Lord wants us to do our best to keep our garments clean (holy and intact) (Rev 16:15). Nevertheless our own righteousness is like filthy clothing (Isa 64:6). But because of the righteousness of Jesus, our High Priest, we can be covered. And so, we can be presented faultless (without spot or blemish on our garments) before Him at the judgment (Jude 1:23-25). Vs.11-13 When Jesus returns to earth, he will gather the Jews to the Land of Israel. V.14 The enemies of Israel will be defeated, including the Palestinians (Philistines). Jordan will be subject to Israel. Vs.15,16 Yahweh will create a holy highway to allow passage from north to south (Isa 19:23; 35:8). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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| Isa 11:2 - the New Testament records the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) resting on Christ Matt 3:16-17;Luke 3:22 and also we read in Isa 42:1 that God will put His Spirit on His ["elect" (KJV) "chosen one" (NIV)] and that he (e.g., Jesus) will reach out to and bring ["judgment" (KIV) "justice" (NIV), (4941) Heb. "mishpat" meaning verdict (favorable or unfavorable) pronounced judicially, etc.] and hope for the Gentiles Rom 15:12;Col 2:13;Isa 11:10. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Charles |
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| Isa 11:1-4 First Principles>Sure mercies of David>King The stem of Jesse is David, his son. The Branch is the Lord Jesus Christ who will be the King to sit on David's throne. For more about the King, go to 2Sam 7:12-16. Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Roger |
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11:4 ‘With the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked’ is quoted by Paul -1Thess 2:8– showing that these words spoken by Isaiah so long ago are speaking of the time associated with the return of Christ. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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| v.2
- We all have the need to pray that we be delivered from evil. Here we are shown
that evil comes often in the form of unreasonable and wicked men. The fact that
'all men have not faith' is still true today, even though we may not be suffering
in the way that Paul and the others did at the hands of the law, so let us beware.
Rom.15:31,
2Cor.1:8,9, 2Tim.4:17. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.11
The busybody is one who, rather than working - both in the home and the ecclesia
- would rather talk about other brethren and sisters. Clearly this talking is
designed to detract from rather than enhance the reputation of the one spoken
of. The busybody speaks what they ought not [1
Timothy 5:13]. As such
the busybody would fall under the condemnation of Proverbs
6:19 inasmuch as the
busybody sows discord. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| 3:8-9
In appealing to the way that he worked lest he be chargeable to the ecclesia we
can be sure that the problem of the disorderly walkers was that they felt that
the ecclesia should support them as they did not want to work - doubtless so they
could, as they might well put it, further the work of the gospel in Thessalonica. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :8-9
It would appear that Paul was caused to support himself even though the Gospel
allowed him to be supported by his brethren and sisters (1
Corinthians 9:1-6) - how often do our actions and word have an adverse impact
on our brethren and sisters? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 3:3 In saying 'the lord is faithful' Paul quotes Deut 6:9. The Thessalonians are being reminded that the God who kept His word and brought Israel into the land of Canaan would keep His word with them also. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.6-15 Paul provides directive with respect to every brother who conducts himself in a disorderly manner. We must note V.15 However: "He is a brother, not an enemy, he is be reproved gently." John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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As we saw with Achan, disobedience was met with harsh punishment. The laws of Christ are more merciful: if one sins, s/he can be forgiven. However, this is not to be taken lightly (Rom 6:15). It is the responsibility of the ecclesia to admonish with a view to recovery (vs.6,14,15). Sometimes ecclesias fail to take appropriate action for fear of being seen as judgmental. This permissiveness is contrary to scripture. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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| PEACE "Now may the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in every way." (2Thess 3:16) We sometimes think of peace as an absence of war, but it is so much more than that. Even in the midst of war, we can have peace. The peace that comes from God is an inner peace, an inner calmness. It comes from an ability to be able to put ALL our trust in God. In doing this we know that, in his love, no matter what happens is for our best because our loving Father will not allow us to be needlessly hurt or injured in any way at all. We also know that God is in control of every circumstance in our lives, whether big or small, good or bad. Our circumstances are not accidents of fate but plans for us by a loving and caring God. The peace that Paul speaks of also comes through the power of prayer. It is comforting to know that God listens to prayer. He hears when we speak to him, and as our Father is interested in our needs and concerns - he will answer prayer. The third aspect of peace is from a clear conscience. When our actions are right and true and we are following in the steps of our Lord, we will have peace by being comfortable and confident that we have done all we can to do our best. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Robert |
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V.5 There are two kinds of patience (longsuffering and endurance) Paul here is refering to "endurance". When we look at the word 5281 "hupomone" and see how the Apostle uses the word it becomes clear what his exhortation is.
. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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3:1 Having spoken about the way that he prays for the brethren and sisters in Thessalonica a number of times in both letters Paul now seeks the prayers of the brethren and sisters for him. Prayer for each other is a two way thing and builds fellowship. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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3:3 Paul draws on Jesus’ words in his prayer – John 17:15 – when he says that the lord will keel the brethren from evil. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| It’s very necessary to pray for those who preach, (see 2Thess 3:1,2). Those of us who live in “western” civilisations have a tremendous privilege. We can preach virtually as and when we like, but for some of our Brothers and sisters such freedoms are not available. Our preaching should be thoughtful, considerate and always for the glory of God. And we should always thank the Lord for His blessings. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to David |
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LET GOD DIRECT YOUR HEART INTO LOVE - v.5 2Thess 3:5 - "the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God" John 13:35 - "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. " Col 3:14 - "And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness." 1Pet 4:8 - "And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. " LOVE IS THE ANSWER! Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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3:6 Notice the repeated use of the word ‘disorderly’ <812> <814> which occurs four times in this letter. 3:6 ‘disorderly’ 3:7 ‘Behaved’ ‘disorderly’ 3:11 ‘disorderly’. Whilst the charge had often be levelled against the apostle Paul that he abused the hospitality of ecclesias he is clearly making the point here – and no one could deny it – that he had supported himself. This was a major plank in his argument against some in the ecclesia who were ‘idle’. So we see that our personal example impacts on others. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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Vs.6-13 Each one has the duty to be industrious and take care of his or her affairs. To cadge (mooch) off others is not an acceptable practice in Christ. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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3:5 The way in which the Lord directs us to the love of God is through the words of Scripture. We must take care not to think that we can just sit back and, after prayer, expect that the way in which we think will be changed. It requires our personal application to reading Scripture and putting what we learn into practice in our lives. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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V.6 When Paul talked about brethren who walked disorderly he is talking about those who wilfully refused to work to support themselves. These idle brethren (disorderly means idle from the Gr. ataktos) were not following the tradition (the precepts taught by the apostles concerning self-sufficiency). Paul cites his own sense of industry, as a living example, because he continued to work to support himself (v.7; Acts 18:1-3). Paul still worked although he could have legitimately claimed support from others because he was an apostle doing the work of Yahweh (vs. 8,9). On top of their unwillingness to work, these idle brethren had become busybodies (v.11). Busybodies have nothing better to do than to go around gossiping and causing trouble (1Tim 5:13). This behavior is contrary to the Christ-like edification that brethren ought to have for each other (Rom 14:19). Paul's corrective solution for these idle busybodies is that they should be shunned in order that they might realize that their behavior is inappropriate for a follower of Christ (vs. 6,14). But the warning to that idle brother should be made in the right spirit of brotherly love and not in heavy-handed self-righteousness (v.15). That way, he is more likely to reflect on his error and correct it. Some, today, might be tempted to use the verses from this chapter, in a brusque manner, to withdraw from anybody they deem to be walking disorderly (breaking whatever rules). However, the scripture does not support that kind of excommunication, either in its meaning or in its intent. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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3:17 That Paul makes the point that the letter truly was from him and was authenticated is a further indication that there were those in the first century who were seeking to undermine Paul’s teaching be writing letters which purported to be from Paul -2Thess 2:2 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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