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Reading 1 - 1Samuel  7 and 8
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7 v.8 - Here and in ch.12:19 the people ask Samuel to pray for them. They feel inadequate to the task themselves. Our situation is different, I know. We have the way opened for us by Jesus' death and resurrection to be able to contact God directly. Does this tend to make us a bit too independent in our thinking though? When we have a problem, surely it is important to share that problem and ask others to pray for us. Even the world say 'a problem shared is a problem halved', but surely here a problem shared is a problem removed. That was certainly true of the Israelites here, which shows of course that repentance is required too.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

7 v.2 - Kirjath Jearim was the resting place for the ark for the remainder of the time of Samuel and all of the reign of Saul and the first seven years of the reign of David for this is the place from whence David brought the ark and set it in the house that he had built for it. [2Samuel 6:2] Therefore the 20 years mentioned cannot be the whole of that period because we know that Saul reigned for 40 years. [Acts 13:21] And David reigned seven and a half years in Hebron before he took Jebus. [2 Samuel 5:5 1 Kings 2:11]
7 v.12 - Samuel, by calling the people to Mizpeh and bringing about a spiritual revival, and the subsequent actions of Yahweh and the raising of the stone which he called Ebenezer marks to Israel that their behaviour in taking the ark to battle [1Samuel 4:4] and it being taken from Ebenezer by the Philistines [1 Samuel 5:1] is now reversed. Hence anyone who saw that stone from this time forward would be able to contrast the behaviour in the days of Eli and the death of Eli and his sons with the deliverance that had just taken place because of the faithfulness of Samuel. Notice that it was just as Samuel was offering the sacrifice [1Samuel 7:10] that the Philistines came against Israel. At a time when they were 'distracted' by serving their God He intervened on their behalf, by contrast to the situation when the ark was taken into the camp.

8 v.1 - Maybe there is an indication of what the Lord thought of Samuel's sons in the fact that there seem to be only two mentions of them in the whole of Scripture. [1Samuel 8:1 1Chronicles 6:28]
8 v.11 - Moses had already shown Israel that Yahweh knew that they would desire a king. [Deuteronomy 17:14 - 20] legislates for the selection of a king and how he should behave. Saul and many others who followed him clearly did not take heed to the admonition of Moses, nor the warning of Samuel.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
8 v.3 - May this help us to accept it if our own children have turned aside regardless of our efforts to help them to see the way to their salvation, and let it make us rejoice if our children have come to see the truth for what it is and accept it. How dreadful Samuel must have felt that his sons did not follow in his ways.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

7:3 The call to 'put away the strange gods fro among you' echoes the call of Jacob to his family (Genesis 35:2). On this occasion Jacob's two sons Simeon and Levi had executed cruel retribution on the men of Shechem.

8:1 That Samuel made his two sons 'judges' and the fact that 'Samuel judged Israel all the days of his life (7:15) and the call of the people, recorded (Acts 13:20) 'judges unto the tie of Samuel the prophet' will help us to realise that we are in, during the life of Samuel, transition period between the time of the Judges and the time of the kings.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

7:6-12 Oh that Israel could remember that God would always deliver His people if they were faithful. They were serving Him and going to Mizpeh was a risk. They must have left their flocks and their fields unguarded. God had told them that when they went to worship him their enemies would not take their lands.

8:4 The words of the elders might have appeared to be well intentioned. It might have been thought that they just wanted to make sure that after Samuel's death there would be men as faithful as he had been ruling over them. However it was a pretext to enable them to ask for a king., They were more concerned with being like the nations round about than in ensuring that God'' laws were kept.

8:11 The warning that Samuel gives about the kings appointing their sons to run before his chariot was copied exactly by both Absalom (1 Samuel 15:1) and Adonijah (1 Kings 1:5) - so we might conclude what kind of kings they would have been if they had been successful in their uprisings.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter

7:15 Whilst Samuel judged 'all Israel' his circuit covered a very small area in the centre of Israel near to Jerusalem.

8:14 The warning that the king would 'take you fields and your vineyards' was exactly what Ahab did (1Kin 21:2)


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
 8:22 God gave them what they asked for, very often this is His way; when a man wants a thing badly enough, even though it will do him no good, God gives him the desire of his heart, so that he may learn the hard way. This it was with Rachel, and Balaam, and the Israelites in the wilderness.l  
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

7:6  Pouring out water before Yahweh symbolized the Israelites utter powerlessness in the face of their enemy.  Only awareness of this condition, contrition of heart, and a faithful appeal to Yahweh could bring deliverance.   David expresses the same idea in speaking of our Lord on the cross (Psa 22:14).

8:3 We saw how Eli's sons abused their office, and now we see Samuel's sons doing the same thing.  Samuel is accounted as one of the faithful (Heb 11:32).  However, even with a faithful servant of Yahweh, there is no guarantee that his children will turn out well.  Perhaps this can be of some consolation to those in the ecclesia whose children have decided not to follow the path of Christ.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael

How sad it must have been for Samuel to see that both his sons would not accept God, as he had done
(1Sam 8:1-5). He had made them judges, but they were dishonest We cannot control or manipulate our grown up children, but we must wonder if we have done wrong, and failed them in their formulative years, when we see what Samuel saw.  Let's thank the Lord, and pray for our young people.

 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David
7:6 At the time of Eli's death Samuel could not have been much more than twenty years old, although his character and position must have given him much influence, it does not appear that he had done a whole lot more than the prophets were wont to do. Now he entered on the duties of a civil magistrate or judge.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

We should not underestimate the magnitude of the occurrence described in chapter 7. All throughout the period of the Judges the children of Israel had stubbornly refused to serve the LORD only, but had clung to their idolatry and refused to bow the knee. Moreover, their trust had been in their own strength and not of the LORD. They had no faith. But now, by the working together of the word of the LORD by Samuel, and the demonstration of God's displeasure through the capture of the Ark, they were ready to not only repent, but also trust in the LORD almighty. In v4 they put away their gods. In v6 they fast and declare their sin. In v8 they cry for deliverance and put their faith in God.

This is a complete and perfect example of repentance in all its stages. 1) God afflicts. 2) A mediator is provided to make known the link between the affliction and God's displeasure. 3) Sin is turned from by actions not just words. 4) A verbal and heartfelt declaration of guilt is made. 5) A request is made that the affliction be removed. 6) A prayer of faith is made to God on behalf of the sinner. 7) God forgives and delivers.

This same cycle is shown throughout scripture and is one we need to be aware of in our own lives. God works this way; always has done; always will do. This cycle occurs most notably for ourselves in James 5:14-20. We ought to take note of it, using the example of Samuel and Israel, so that we like them can fulfil God's purpose in turning every one of us from our iniquities (Acts 3:24-26).


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Rob

7:9-10               We should try to visualise the scene. Israel are gathered together in or near the city of Mizpeh. The Philistines are visible in the distance, approaching the city. Israel had only recently lost a battle with the Philistines. Samuel is carefully organising the sacrifice and the people watch, with one eye on Samuel and the other on the Philistines who are still approaching.  The tension mounts as the Philistines approach and yet Israel have to remain still, watching Samuel  with their minds focussed on the sacrifice.

 

8:3        What a tragedy! Samuel’s sons did not follow his good example. Some might say that this was because Samuel did not give his sons the attention they deserved because he was so busy in the nation. However the record is silent on this point. We should appreciate that being faithful parents does not guarantee that one’s children will also be faithful.  Consider Israel. God was their father – what more could he have done for them? The answer clearly is ‘nothing’ but they continually rebelled against his instruction.

 

 


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

1Sam 7:5,6,9 - we have Israel repenting - perhaps this reminds us of the neglected Day of Atonement (Lev 16:24,28,29,30). Some of this is gleaned from Samuel, Saul & David by Harry A. Whittaker, p.30.

8:3-7 - in v6 what upsets Samuel the most is not his sons reported bad behavior but that the elders of Israel want a king, to be like the other nations, versus looking to God.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Charles
The words "he will take.." are repeatedly said about the way the king would deal with the people. They rejected a King who would give them everything Acts 17:25  in favour of kings who would take.
Wendy Johnsen [Nanaimo, BC, Canada]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Wendy

8:2 Beersheba was a long way from Shiloh. We might think ‘out of sight out of mind’. His sons were evil and consequently should not even have been in the position of Judges, let alone miles away form the influence of their father.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

Yahweh had already predicted and agreed to a king for Israel (Gen 49:10; Num 24:17; Deut 17:14-20). However, He was displeased with Israel's attitude. They hankered after a mortal king, with all the human trappings, at the expense of recognizing Yahweh's regal supremacy.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

7:8      ‘cease not to cry unto the Lord’ is rather like the later ‘pray without ceasing’ 11Thess 5:17


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

7:4 So Israel turned from following Baal. There is no more mention of Baal worship in Israel from now right until the days of Ahab.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
First Principles>Kingdom of God>Existed in the past
During the 40 years wilderness journey, the nation became organised, laws were given, officials appointed, the commonwealth of Israel came into existence and BECAME KNOWN AS THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Exo 19:6 1Sam 8:7 1Chron 29:11,23 2Chron 13:8
When Israel went out of Egypt ... Judah was his sanctuary and Israel his dominion Psa 114:1-2
Go to Gen 12:1-5 for more about First Principles>Kingdom of God>Existed in the past
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger
7 v 3,4,11 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Was overturned
1. The right of Israel to be called God's Kingdom was dependent on their obedience. Go to Exo 19:5 for more details.

Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger
1Sam 8:1-22 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Was overturned>History of fulfilment
1. The conquest of the land was followed by a period of the Judges Acts 13:19,20. This ended when the people rejected God and chose a king 1Sam 8:1-22
Go to
Deut 28:49 to see more details of the history of Israel and its overturning.
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

 

7:1  Abinadab lived in Gibeah (2Sam 6:3,4).  However, this can be misleading.  Gibeah means hill.  It is more likely that Abniadab lived on a hill in or near Kirjath-jearim.  It is puzzling why the ark was not taken directly to Shiloh.

7:2 Saul reigned for forty years.  And so, it seems that the ark only rested with Abinadab for half of Saul’s reign before being brought out.  But, it was David who brought out the ark later (2Sam 6:2-4).  And so, the twenty years is a puzzling phrase.

7:5-7,16  Mizpeh (KJV), more correctly Mizpah (ESV), was one of the three towns on Samuel’s circuit, the other two being Bethel and Gilgal.  As a circuit judge, Samuel would visit these towns in turn, as Yahweh’s representative, and dispense justice.

This town of Mizpah was in the tribal allotment of Benjamin (there were towns of the same name elsewhere).  Mizpah became a gathering point for the nation when there was an issue of national importance to be resolved.  Mizpah means watchtower.

7:12 Shen means crag.  This was probably not a town, but a well-known rock near Mizpah.  In Modern Hebrew, shen means tooth.

8:2,3 Samuel’s sons were crooked judges. If they had been like Samuel, then the people would not have wanted a king (8:4,5). 

8:7 Judges were acceptable to Yahweh, as they represented Him in judgement.  However, Yahweh was the only king over Israel.

8:19,22 After refusing Samuel’s counsel, Yahweh instructed Samuel to make Israel a king (Prov 26:5). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

8:7 The rejection of the prophet Samuel and as a consequence the rejection of God is not the first time that Israel had rejected God’s rulership. It happened quite early in the wilderness journey when Israel sought to set up a captain to take them back to Egypt – Num 16:3


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 2 - Isaiah 52
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v.11 - When we receive our instruction to leave the Babylon in which we are now captive for the wonders of God's kingdom, let us be sure to 'touch no unclean thing'. Remember Lot's wife. 2Cor.6:17, Rev.18:4.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.2 - Note the progression and contrast between [Isaiah 3:26] where Israel is reproved for being rebellious and [Isaiah 52:2] where the rewards of faithfulness are presented.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.1 - The beautiful garments are those which cover our shame - Rev.3:5,18, 4:4, 7:9, 15:6, 19:14
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
52:7 Thy God reigneth echoes David's Psalm of thanksgiving when he bought the ark to Zion - 1 Chronicles 16:31 Psalm 96:10. Yet another link with the promises to and tabernacle of David. For David voiced this Psalm when he had brought the ark to Zion and received the promises.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:2 The one who is to 'shake thyself from the dust' is the woman who (3:26) 'being desolate sat upon the ground' - that is rebellious Israel. But by now they have repented of their evil ways.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
v.3 - "ye were sold for nought". Ahaz bribed the Assyrians with the contents of the temple, but was eventually overthrown by them. The Jewish leaders were bribed to deliver Christ but it didn't stop them being overthrown by the Romans in AD 70. Joseph was sold into captivity but this lead to his family being the slaves of Egypt for 200 years. We can work harder but end up being poorer. Tax cuts don't always mean we have more money in our pockets.
David Archer []     Comment added in 2003      reply to David
52:5 |The use of this verse by Paul (Rom 2:24) confirms that it is Israel who caused God's name to be blasphemed. We probably would have said that was so from a reading of Isaiah  52 but Paul's use in Romans confirms this.

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.11 It was the priests and the Levites, whose office it was to carry the vessels of the temple. They are told "be ye clean" by separating themselves wholly from Babylonian idolaters. This is certainly a lesson that we must apply to our lifes.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

 

V.14  We are well reminded of the horrible death that the Lord Jesus willingly suffered for us. Bleeding and disfigured through scourging and beating, he was nailed to a stake.  He endured suffering without murmuring and with forgiveness on his lips.  We owe a debt which we cannot pay.  Let us resolve to be more faithful that we may be with Him in His glory (2Pet 3:18).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Michael
“To the pure all things are pure,” (Titus 1:15). Even feet!  Yes, I know that Isa 52:7 means a lot more than the actual feet of the messenger who is bringing the good tidings.  But just spare a moment to think about the hot, unpleasant feet of the one who runs over the mountains. But this man is bringing “peace”. Let’s thank God for our feet that can allow us to preach.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

52:1  And so again we hear Israel called upon to ‘awake’ – but now to glory – there is to come a time when they will have turned away from their idolatry.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

V.13-15 - these three verses actually belong with the next chapter which prophesies the sacrifice of Christ, the purpose of his death, his resurrection, essentially the gospel (good news) but in the Old Testament; v13  prudently [Heb. "sakal" (7919) means "to cause to act wisely, to be circumspect, intelligent, instruct, have good success, prosper, teach, (have, make to) understand (-ing), wisdom, (deal) prudent (-ly), consider, expert, (give) skill (-ful), (be, behave self, consider, make) wise (-ly), guide wittingly"]; v13 these words collectively perhaps suggest Christ being elevated in the sense of honor and an accepted lifted up sacrifice also we have the mention of burn (as in a burnt offering) in the definition for "extolled"... exalted [Heb. "ruwm" (7311) means "to rise or raise up (in various applications), exalt, offer (up)", etc.], extolled [Heb. "nasa" (5375) means "to be lifted up, to lift (in a great variety of applications), exalt, extol, to bear, burn, forgive, high, hold up, pardon, raise (up), yield, spare, receive, accept", etc.], very [Heb. "meod" (3966) means "very, wholly, speedily, vehemence, vehemently, might (-ily,-y), well, utterly", etc.], high [Heb. "gabahh" (1361) means "to soar, be lofty, to be haughty, exalt, be haughty, be (make) high (-er), lift up, mount up, be proud, raise up great height, upward"]; v15 sprinkle [Heb. "nazah" (5137) means "to spirt, besprinkle (especially in expiation), sprinkle"] is the same Hebrew word that is used to "sprinkle" the mercy seat (i.e. Christ covering our sins) and altar in association with the day of atonement Lev 16:14,15,19 and thus we have Christ "sprinkling" many nations both Jew and Gentile and a later understanding Rom 15:18-22.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Charles
V.6 That day when Christ shall reveal himself to Israel. It will not be until that day, that Israel's obstinate unbelief shall be overcome (Zech 12:10,  Zech 14:5)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

God uses the men and women, places and events of history to paint us a lucid picture of future events. In this chapter we have the joy of Jerusalem at its deliverance from the armies of Assyria which threatened to utterly destroy it. The people had been hauled up in that city for months, frightened, starving, and awaiting their doom. Then God had delivered them suddenly by the faith of their king.

God teaches us on many levels by the scenes of this play. Salvation by faith in Christ, our king, for our immediate lives. Salvation of Jerusalem in the future when these events will repeat themselves, and Jerusalem will again be encompassed by armies (Eze 38:23, Zech 12:2-10). How the gentile nations will come to trust in God because of His mighty acts of war (v10) just as they came to revere God and Hezekiah after these events (37:20, 2Chron 32:22-23). Most of all they set the scene for the prophecies of the coming of the Messiah (v7, 13-15) who would suffer as Hezekiah had, but would overcome the power of the grave by faith in God.


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Rob

52:5 The use of this verse by Paul (Rom 2:24) confirms that it is Israel who caused God’s name to be blasphemed. We probably would have said that was so from a reading of Isa 52 but Paul’s use in Romans confirms this.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

Vs.11,12 The people of Yahweh are urged to leave Babylon (under the protection of Cyrus) and return home before she is destroyed . Likewise, the people of Yahweh are later urged to leave spiritual Babylon (under the protection of Christ) and return home (to the Truth) before she is destroyed (Rev 18:4).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

52:1 The ‘holy city’ – used in Rev 21:21 enable us to see that this area of Isaiah is speaking of the tie of the kingdom.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

52:10 The "arm" which the Lord made bare is the one who is manifest as the "arm of the Lord" Isa 53:1


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

THE LIKENESS OF JESUS

 

A few years ago, some artists made headline news when they came up with a picture, based on a lot of historical and archeological research, of what Jesus could have looked like. They didn't go for the traditional yet sad-looking figure that has been around for so many years, but decided he was more rounded, more Jewish looking, and they gave him a cheerful look.

 

But no one really knows what Jesus looked like. There are only one or two places in the Bible that give us any hint at all as to how he looked. One of those places is in Isaiah's prophecy of the suffering servant. There we read, "Just as there were many who were appaled at him - his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond likeness." (Isa 42:14)

 

Maybe all the pictures are wrong. But even if we had photos or even realistic paintings of Jesus, it is not his appearance that we need to recognise, but his character. While his appearance is only hinted at in a few places, his character appears on almost every page of the Bible. This is the Jesus we need to get to know. When he returns we will know exactly who he is, though we have never seen him before. Will he be recognised by us?


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Robert

 

Vs.1-6 The dismal state of Jerusalem in bondage has been outlined (51:17-20).  Now, Jerusalem is urged to shake off the dust and get ready for a magnificent renewal (which will eventually come when Jesus returns to earth).

V.7 See Nah 1:15. Jesus was the Son of promise who would bring salvation to the world (Luke 2:10,11,14). The good news that Jesus brought was the gospel of the kingdom (Matt 24:14). True and lasting peace will only happen when Jesus returns to earth to reign His kingdom (Luke 1:31-33). When the Lord Jesus’ feet stand on the Mount of Olives, great changes will be made and peace will ensue (Zech 14:4).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

A large number of Israel and Judah had been taken captive into Assyria (2Kin 15:29, 18:10-12). Most of the cities of Israel and Judah had been captured (2Kin 17:5, 18:13). Only Jerusalem remained as a beacon of hope and despair. The captives in Assyria would hear of their capital. Their captors would deride them, claiming their last hope was about to be swallowed up in Assyrian might; blaspheming the power of their God (v5). The Taylor Prism which has been found in Nineveh, the Assyrian capital, says of this time "(Hezekiah) himself like a caged bird I shut up within Jerusalem".

In this context enters the messenger in v7. He brings good tidings of salvation. Jerusalem has been saved from the invader, and Hezekiah is re-establishing his rule from Jerusalem over the desolate cities (v7-9). The call to return to their land comes in v11-12, an Exodus likened to that of Egypt in v4. Hezekiah's fame spread throughout the lands of Assyrian domination (v10,13) and wherever that news went, the dispersed Isrealites heard the call to come home (11:9-12, 62:10-12):

"They (Assyria) shall not hurt or destroy in all My Holy mountain (Jerusalem), For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea. And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse (Hezekiah), who shall stand as a banner to the people... and will assemble the outcasts of Israel... from the four corners of the earth"


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob
Isa 52:7;Rom 10:15.
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Charles
Isa 52:1 First Principles>Sure Mercies of David>Capital City>Jerusalem Glorified
Jerusalem, rebuilt and glorified, will become the metropolis of God's Kingdom which will embrace all nations. Psa 48:2, Isa 52:1, Isa 60:14, Jer 3:17, Zech 14:16, Matt 5:34-35
First Principles>Sure Mercies of David> For more details go to Isa 55:1-3.
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

52:3 being redeemed ‘without money’ will be developed – Isa 55:11– to show the redemption requires that those wishing to benefit have to take food into themselves. That food is the word of God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - Revelation  14
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v.12 - If we wish to be counted among these, we need to be able to reiterate Paul's words when towards the end of his life, he wrote to Timothy [2Tim.4:7].
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v. 4 - Being 'defiled with women' in Scripture primarily relates to turning away from God to serve idols. This concept is seen clearly in Proverbs 3 and 7. The physical fornication of Israel at the time of Balaam matches their idol worship.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
they which follow ... withersoever he goeth
Eze 1:12

Those who are not defiled are like the living creatures of Ezekiel 1 in the way that they follow the lamb. So those who are not defiled will eventually be a manifestation of the glory of God in the earth.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
thrust in thy sickle ...for the harvest ... is ripe
Joel 3:13
in ... sickle
Joel 3:13
in ... sickle ... winepress
Joel 3:13
The repeated quotation from Joel provides yet another background for the words of Revelation.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
V.1 "Upon Mount Zion"  As a symbol, Mt. Zion represents the Abrahamic Covenant; in constrast to Mt. Sinai which represents the Mosiac covenant.Gal 4:24,  Heb 12:22  Zion is a symbol of permanency. Psa 125:1
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

14:1 The "lamb" on mount Zion is the same lamb that had been slain and the 144,000 with the father's name in their forehead are like those (Eze 9:4) who sighed and cried for the abominations done in Jerusalem.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

 

Vs.14-20 There will be a great slaughter of those who oppose Christ when He comes.  Among the casualties will be the apostate system of worship presently centered in Rome (v.8).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

14:1  Clearly the 144,000 are representative of the redeemed from each of the 12 tribes of Israel and answer to those spoken of in Rev 7. We are not to presume that, therefore, they are natural Israel. They are spiritual Israel whoa re taken out of all nations.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

14:2 Having harps echoes Rev 5:8 where the redeemed are seen praising God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
14:11 The expression "for ever and ever" indicates that it shall burn until it is completely destroyed. What happened to Jerusalem (Isa 34:10) now falls upon Babylon. We also have the record of Sodom as a city of eternal fire, that is a fire that shall consume until nothing remains.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

 

V.8 can be connected to Isa 51:11,12 and Rev 18:4 (see my note on Is. 51, for June 26).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

14:10   The recompense of Zion will take place when |Babylon’s smoke arises – See Isa 34:8-10


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

14:1 The ‘lamb’ who stood on ‘Mount Sion’ is Jesus whose feet with stand on the mount of Olives – Acts 1:11


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.1 The 144,000 is a representative number of the total number of immortalized saints.  It is a multiple of twelve which is considered a complete number.  The description of the New Jerusalem is also based on this fact (Rev 21:10-16).

Vs.2,3 The redeemed multitude will sing a new song (Psa 33:1-5 etc.). Only it will understand this song because the nature of the redeemed will have been changed from mortal to immortal.

Vs.4,5 The term not defiled with women means not being associated or influenced by the false system of worship, which is characterized as a woman of loose morals (Rev 17:3-5).  They are virgins applies to those who stayed faithful to Jesus and, thus, remained undefiled by the false system of worship.  They were without guile, like Jesus Himself (John 1:47).

Vs.6,7 In the kingdom, the immortalized saints will be responsible for teaching the mortal nations the ways of Yahweh.  These redeemed are depicted in this verse by the angel (messenger).

V.8 Babylon, the origin of the Mystery Religion, signifies Rome, the seat of Catholicism, which adopted Babylon’s Mystery Religion.  Rome’s intoxicating force converted nations to commit spiritual fornication (Rev 18:3).  Yahweh’s wrath will destroy Rome (Rev 18:21,22). 

V.9 After Rome is destroyed, Catholiscism will survive (for a time).  The third angel will make an appeal to Catholics to leave that church and turn to Yahweh.

V.10 Mixed wine is wine to which something has been added to numb pain.  Jesus, on the cross, was offered wine mixed with myrrh to counter pain (Mark 15:23).  Here, the mixed wine represents the soothing (divine) solution to the intoxicating wine of Rome.  Catholics can come out and be saved. If they do not, then they will be subject to fire and brimstone (destruction aimed, particularly, at Europe which will have come under Catholic influence).  Jesus and His redeemed will administer relentless punishment (v.11).

Vs.12-20 These verses speak of Jesus and His redeemed brethren administering punishing justice on those who refuse to submit to the offer to leave the apostasy for true worship. 

Consider 1600 furlongs (stadia) in v.20. This comprises a square of 40 X 40.  The numeral 40 is indicative of trial. Squaring a number is punctuating its importance, like underlining a word. And so, the destruction of the ungodly will undergo a definite period of trial leading either to their submission or to their death.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

14:14 The one ‘like the son of man’ catches the sentiments of Dan 7:13where clearly we have a picture of Jesus’ return and the judgement of the nations.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter