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Reading 1 - 1Kings  22
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v.26,27 There seem to be a number of occasions when prophets were imprisoned for speaking the words of the Lord in truth, (e.g. 2Chron.16:10 Jer. 29:26) and God allowed this suffering for his prophets. We do well to remember that God has not promised us an easy life either. We too can easily fall victim to the whim of men, just as Jesus did, and if we do, we should count it all joy - James 1:2
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.17 In speaking of people as being sheep without a shepherd we are seeing a thee which runs through Scripture. Numbers 27:17, here, 2 Chronicles 18:16 Matthew 9:36 Mark 6:34
Thus it is easy to see why Jesus is presented as the 'chief shepherd' 1 Peter 5:4

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.6 - The King of Israel's reaction to the request of Jehoshaphat is quite interesting. In response to the request to enquire of the Lord over the wisdom of their actions, he gathers together some 500 prophets who are not of the Lord, based, it seems on the principle that they say what he wants to hear. We must be very careful not to do this. When we reach a turning point in our lives, where do we turn for advice on what to do?
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
21:20 So Ahab's fate is sealed. We receive and insight into how the Lord will work in a man's life so that he chooses his won way - but the will of the Lord is fulfilled.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Jehoshaphat's behaviour might seem a little odd. Why was he willing to cast in his lot with Ahab? Well, Ramothgilead, a city of refuge, was in enemy hands. However there is a more pertinent reason. Ahab's daughter was married to Jehoshaphat's son (2 Kings 8:16)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
22:34 Despite all his careful planning Ahab died in battle - just as God had told him.  Are so naive at times that we think we can deceive God?
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.39 In addition to the further adornment of the house in Samaria with costly ivories. Ahab built a second residence in Jezreel at which his favourite wife Jezebel had her own establishment.(1Kin 21; 2Kin 9:30) It is in the reign of Ahab that we see for the first time the indulgence in luxury that was to be the characteristic of the kings of Israel.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
God had forecast Ahab's death.  But the actual gentile soldier who aimlessly shot an arrow into the air, little thought that the Lord was guiding his hands.  The arrow was miraculously guided through the joints of Ahab's armour, and fatally wounded the wicked king of Israel (1Kin 22:34).  God's prophecies DO come true.

David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David

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Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
Ahab at this time was being led to his downfall, but still refused to listen to Micaiah, he committed the prophet to prison. Micaiah was a true prophet. In spite of all Ahab's precautions in disguising himself, we see that the arrow of an unamed man pierced his armour, and he died that evening. Fulfilling the words spoken by Elijah (1Kin 21:19)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to John

22:3-4 Israel and Judah had been at variance with each other because Israel was Godless and Judah, under the influence of Jehoshaphat, was Godly. Therefore is was not correct for Jehoshaphat to say "I am as thou … my horses are thy horses". Whilst it is right to seek to recover a lost brother it is not right to try to gain hi by descending to his way of thinking., There is the requirement to save, whilst remaining unspotted – Jude 1:23


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR
 
Ahab had four hundred prophets who all prophesied the things that Ahab wanted to hear. They all told Ahab to go into battle and be victorious. But Jehosophat was not convinced by the numbers and unity of Ahab's prophets, so he asked, "Is there not a prophet of the LORD here whom we can inquire of?" (1Kin 22:7) Eventually a lone prophet of the LORD, Micaiah, was called. His message was very different and foretold the death of Ahab and the scattering of Israel. It was the message Ahab was afraid to hear, yet it was the message of the LORD. Having heard it, Ahab instead decided to follow the predictions of the four hundred other prophets while taking precautions to try and foil the fulfilment of Micaiah's prophecy. It didn't work, and Ahab died in the battle.
 
We often need advice. We probably don't have multitudes of prophets to ask - or even one prophet. But even in asking advice from friends, family or work colleagues, we need to be careful. As Ahab discovered, the advice we want to hear is not always right nor is it always the majority who are right. But advice from the LORD will always be right. Let's make sure we do what is right and listen to the advice of the LORD above all else. Let's not base our decisions on the philosophy, opinions or wisdom of mere man.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Robert

 

V.8 Ahab was narcissistic and he wanted to hear only good things about himself.  Truth took a back seat to his being stroked.  Paul warns Timothy that Gospel Truth would also take a back seat to popular theology (2Tim 4:3).  Destruction was the end result for Ahab.  The same awaits those who accept false theological doctrines.

V.43 Jehoshaphat was considered a good king, while Ahab was a bad king (1Kin 16:30).   It seems strange, therefore, that Jehoshaphat would associate with Ahab.  The reason he did associate with Ahab was that Jehoram, Jehoshaphat's son, had married Ahab's daughter (2Kin 8:16-18).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

22:8    Ahab’s comment about Micaiah indicates his true colours. He only likes people who flatter him. Do we ever see that trait in ourselves?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

V.7 It seems strange that Jehoshaphat would not be satisfied with the unanimous conclusion of four hundred prophets. His dissatisfaction was prompted by Yahweh so that Micaiah could be summoned. Ahab did not volunteer Micaiah's services, at the beginning, because he wanted to hear only good things concerning himself.

When we pray for help, do we expect only good outcomes for ourselves; or are we prepared to accept what Yahweh will give, whatever that is?

Vs.30,37,38 Ahab thought he could cheat death by disguising himself. A random shot, by an archer, killed Ahab and prophecy was fulfilled. Of course, the arrow that killed Ahab was no accident, but was guided by Yahweh.  Nobody can hide from Yahweh or His judgements (Job 34:21,22).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

22:10 The way that the kings saw themselves in all their pomp and finery is contrasted, by the prophet – 1Kin 22:19 – who saw, by inspiration, things as they really were God was supreme and the two kings but were but mere men.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.3 Ramoth-gilead was a Levitical city, and one of the six cities set aside for refuge (one of the three cities east of the Jordan) (Deut 4:43; Josh 21:38).  Ramoth-gilead  was still in Syrian hands, and Ahab decided it should come back to Israel.

V.6 These prophets belonged to Jezebel.  In the system that was set up at that time, men worshipped Baal, and women worshipped Asherah (1Kin 18:19). It was only the prophets of Baal who were at Carmel, and who were killed by Elijah (1Kin 18:22,40). Jezebel’s prophets were not affected, and remained to give Ahab this (false) counsel.

V.7 Jehoshaphat had no confidence in Jezebel’s prophets of the groves.

V.11 Zedekiah, a false prophet, wanted to impress and flatter the kings.  The two horns represented Ahab and Jehoshaphat.

V.15 Micaiah was being very sarcastic.  One can imagine the caustic tone of voice that he used.

V.17 After having his bit of fun, Micaiah delivered the truth that Israel will be defeated and its king killed.

V.25 Scripture does not tell us of Zedekiah's demise. The defeat of Israel, and his false prophecy would not sit well with Jezebel.  One can surmise that Zedekiah would have hidden himself from the wrath of the vicious queen.  But, knowing Jezebel’s track record, Zedekiah would not be safe for long.

Vs.26,27 Those who tell God’s Truth are, generally, not well received.  That is the price one must be prepared to pay as a spokesperson for Yahweh.  But, the faithful will receive the reward of eternal life (Heb 11:35-40).

V.38 What was prophesied came true  (1Kin 21:19).

V.47 Since David conquered the Edomites, thy were ruled by deputies, who were selected by the kings of Judah.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

22:49 ‘But Jehoshaphat would not’ shows us that he had learnt his lesson about association with the kings of Israel.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

1Kin 22:2 - Jehoshaphat "came down" [Heb. "yarad" (3381) means "to descend (literally to go to a lower region; or figuratively to fall)"] literally and spiritually in aligning himself with Ahab who (2Chron 18:2) "persuaded" [Heb. "suth" (5496) means "seduced, persuaded, enticed, etc."] Jehoshaphat by showing him honor and respect with numerous sacrifices, etc.

1Kin 22:30 - sin/evil is often deceptive and disguised not unlike the lying serpent who persuaded Eve she wouldn't die (Gen 3:1-6,21) - after sinning they needed to be covered by a sacrifice.

1Kin 22:11 - "Zedekiah" [(6667) means "Jehovah (Yahweh) is righteous"]; "Chenaanah" [(3668) means "trader"]; perhaps the horns of iron intended to "push" [Heb. "nagach" (5055) means "gore, push, (figuratively) to war against"] or gore the "Syrians" [NIV "Arameans" (758) means "exalted, the highlands"] which linguistically could almost be an echo of the exalted Christ when he was crucified and exchanged or traded his life of sinful nature for immortality.

Names that may in some way echo Christ or God manifestation (1Kin 22:8,41,42,50) - V.8 "Micaiah" [(4321) means "who is like God"]; V.8 "Imlah" [(3229) means "whom God will fill up"]; V.41 "Asa" [(609) means "healer, physician"]; V.42 "Azubah" [(5805) means "forsaken"] and perhaps reminds of Christ's quote, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Psa 22:1;Matt 27:46); V.42 "Shilhi" [(7977) means "missive, armed"] and perhaps reminds of Christ being sent armed with the Word of God; V.50 "Jehoram" [(3088) means "Jehovah is exalted, Jehovah is raised"] and perhaps emphasizes that while God might exalt the Syrians to punish Israel and Ahab, the one truly exalted would be God with His future resurrected son to be at His right hand.


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles

1Kin 22:48-49  Jehoshaphat King of Judah made three unwise alliances with faithless kings of Israel. 
1) His son, Jehoram married Ahab’s daughter. (2Chron 21:5-6). Jehoshaphat therefore was joined by marriage affinity with the house of Ahab (2Chron 18:1).  .
2) Jehoshaphat constructed ships at Ezion-geber in an alliance with Ahaziah king of Israel to go to Tharshish, compare 1Kin 22:48 with 2Chron 20:35-37). The Lord intervened and the ships were broken up.
3) Jehoshaphat joined in a military alliance with Jehoram (son of Ahab) King of Israel to subdue the Moabites.
The faithful servant of the Lord avoids alliances with those who do not share the faith.  Unwise alliances, can take many forms, such as business, marriage to one who does not share our faith or dedicating ourselves to generating wealth and accumulating possessions can take us away from serving our God.

Jehoshaphat eventually declined to make a further alliance with Ahaziah (1Kings 22:49).  Do we learn from our mistakes.


Peter Moore [Erith, UK]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 2 - Jeremiah 49
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v.10 - we are reminded of God's ability to see into our secret places and make them bare. His actual reaction depends on us. There was such a contrast between Jacob and Esau, so much so that God says 'Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated' as recorded in Rom.9:13, quoted from Malachi 1:2-3. Both of the same stock, yet one is covered and the other is laid bare. We have that choice too. Ezek.16:7
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
The judgement upon :1 Ammon :7 Edom :23 Damascus :28 Kedar Hazor mark the final list of nations and cities that Jeremiah spoke against. Thus it can be seen that the Babylonian invasion was a massive event. These events, in general, are a pattern on he events associated with the return of Christ. Just as Babylon was finally destroyed and Israel restored under Ezra and Nehemiah we can be sure that Jesus will return and Jerusalem will at last be a praise in the earth.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.8 - It was appropriate to use the phrase 'dwell deep' of Dedan, as Dedan means 'The Low Country'. 'Dwell deep' is a way of saying dwell securely.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

49:7-14 In speaking of judgement on Edom Jeremiah quotes the words of the earlier prophet Obadiah

wisdom in Teman
Obadiah 8
grapegatherers
Obadiah 5
not to drink
Obadiah 16
rumour
Obadiah 1

Obadiah prophesied against Edom. Jeremiah is reinforcing his words and, it seems, saying that Obadiah's words would be fulfilled through the Babylonians.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
Ammon
Of the children of Shem
(through Lot- Abraham's nephew)
Damascus
Syria - Jacob was a Syrian Deuteronomy 26:5
Kedar
Of Ishmael Genesis 25:13
Elam
Of the children of Shem Genesis 10:22

So we see the linking of these countries / tribes is not arbitrary. They are all sons of Shem. From the same line as Israel.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
49:2 The burning of the daughters by fire possibly indicates that God's controversy with Ammon was their false worship which was spiritual fornication for the daughter of an priest who played the whore was to be burned with fire. (Lev 21:9)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter

V.17 Jeremiah does not name the nation that would bring this judgement upon Edom, but when we look at Jer 49:19 &V22 and compare it with Deut 28:26,49  We see there can be no doubt that he intends us to understand, that just as Nebichadnezzer invaded Israel, so would also the king of Babylon be the instrument of God's judgement upon Edom.


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
Ammon’s territory was to the east of Jordan, beyond the two and a half tribes of Israel. Syria and its capital of Damascus is also included in Jer 49:23-27.   Kedar and Elam are further east, while Hazor (Jer 49:30-33) is either in the north of Israel, (or is a territory not mentioned in the Bible Atlas.) Do note that it is Babylon who is again to act as God’s servant, and take vengeance on these nations, see Jer 49:28,30.  
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

49:30  Whereas God had provided encouragement to the inhabitants of Jerusalem when He told them they were to be taken captive by the Babylonians the inhabitants of Kedar – and the other places for that matter – were given no comfort at all. Thus we see that Yahweh has a concern for His people despite the awful things that He brought upon them.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

49:6,39 Notice that Edom and Elam were to be restored to their territory indicating that the events spoken of these regions would be short lived, relatively. Just like Judah was to return after 70 years.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
49:11 The fatherless and widows are told that the only place where they can rest their hope is in God, in this we see the evidence of God's mercy to Esau, as we have read in the past two chapters, to both Moab and Ammon (Jer 48:17, Jer 49:6)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

 

V.1 There was none of God's chosen people in Gad because the Assyrians had taken them away. The people would, subsequently, return and occupy the land.

Vs.2,6 Ammon was to be destroyed.  However, Yahweh would restore the nation.  This merciful act was in respect to righteous Lot who was Ammon's patriarch (Gen 19:36-38).

Vs.10,11Yahweh vowed punishment on Edom.  Nevertheless, in His mercy, He promised to protect the widows and orphans (Psa 68:5). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

49:34 So we are now given details of a prophecy that Jeremiah had spoken long before the taking of Zedekiah captive. We have made this point before but it bears making again. We should not presume that Jeremiah’s prophecy is in chronological order.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

V.1 The king (KJV) refers to the Ammonite god Milcom; sometimes known as Malcham; but best known as Molech (1Kin 11:5,7; Zeph 1:5).  Molech was the fire-god, and chief god among the Ammonites.

V.4 The term backsliding daughter (KJV); faithless daughter (ESV), is a reference to Ammon and its heritage.  The father of the Ammonites was Ben-ammi, the son of Lot (Gen 19:38). 

Lot was a righteous man who feared Yahweh (2Pet 2:7,8).  However, Lot's sons, born through incestuous relations with his daughters, became idolaters.

Vs.7,8 Edom is another example of a member of a righteous family who went the way of idolatry.  Edom is a reference to Esau (Gen 32:3).  Esau was a rebel in the family of Jacob, whose hand would always be against his brother. 

David had subdued Edom.  But, Edom rebelled under the rule of Jehoram (2Chron 21:8-10). And, since that time, Edom had done everything it could to attack Yahweh’s people (Eze 25:12).  Edom has become an epithet for all the enemies of God’s people.  Edom will be destroyed in the end times (Amos 9:11,12).

V.13 There are two Bozrahs in the Bible: one in Edom, as mentioned here; and the other in Moab (Jer 48:24).

In the time of the end, there will be a great slaughter of Yahweh’s enemies.  Jesus and the redeemed saints will wage war on the foe.  There is a description of this divine band coming from Bozrah in Edom, having engaged the enemy and beaten it, in that area (Isa 63:1).

V.20 Teman was a son of Esau (Gen 36:11).  Teman was also situated in Idumea (from whence came the Herods). 

Teman also figures in during the end times when Jesus and His divine band of saints destroy the enemy which has invaded the region (Deut 33:2; Hab 3:3).

V.36 Elam was an independent region situated opposite Babylon, on the banks of the Tigris.  It became a province of Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar (Dan 8:2).  Later, Elam helped Cyrus in his overthrow of the Babylonians (Isa 21:2).  When Jesus returns, Elam will have its fortunes restored (v.39).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael
v7 appears to be a reference to Eliphaz, the Temanite who was a wise friend of Job (Job 2:11).
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

49:1 Jeremiah is now saying that the prophecy of Amos – Amos 1:13 – was going to be fulfilled. It might have seemed that what Amos had said so long ago was not going to be fulfilled but now Judah are in captivity God turns His attention to the nations who had caused Israel problems.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - 1Corinthians  8 and 9
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8 v.1-3 tell us such a lot about our attitude we need to cultivate so as to love God. The love of God, clearly, from these verses, is not obtained through knowledge, especially the sort that 'puffeth up' (v.1). Instead we are exhorted to the love which edifies. The rest of the chapter makes it quite clear that this principle should be applied to practical situations where a brother is behaving in a way that not all find acceptable, in this case the eating of meats offered to idols. Our attitude should be one of love rather than one of pharisaical judgement. Prov.26:12 30:2-4 Rom.11:25 Gal.6:3 1Tim.1:5-7
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

8:1 - 7 The individual who is troubled by the idea of eating meat offered to an idol is the weak one. This is because he does not appreciate that the earth is the Lords, or that there is one God who has made the new creation by Jesus Christ.
However it is interesting to note that the one with the weak conscience who misunderstands certain fundamental issues is still in fellowship and by inference, as will be developed later by Paul, has special needs which other brethren and sisters must be aware of and respond to.
8:9 - 10 Strength is not shown in having the ability to eat meat that had been offered to an idol. Strength is shown in refraining from doing something which is quite lawful but not edifying to the one with a weak conscience.

9:3 Another indication that there were those at Corinth who were questioning Paul's status as an apostle - see also 1 Corinthians 4:3
9:4 - 12 Apostles have the God given right to be supported by the ecclesias that they minister to. This is taught by reflecting on the way that the law of Moses made provision for labouring animals.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
8:10-13 The force of Paul's argument here is that even if one has the 'right' to do something the way that our behaviour impacts on our brethren and sisters might well determine that we do not exercise our liberty. We do well to consider this as a way of life Romans 12:10 teaches the same point. Of we can behave like this the unity of the community will be enhanced.

9:15 In saying that whilst he has the right to live of the gospel he has 'used none of thee things' Paul is implementing the principles he has outlined in the previous chapter.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

ch 8 - Notice the repeated use of 'knowledge' (:1, 7, 10, 11) Paul contrasts the 'knowledge' which produces arrogance with the 'knowledge' which produces love.

9:9-10 In drawing the conclusion from the quotation from Deuteronomy 25:4 that it was 'for our sakes' Paul highlights a fundamental principle. Scripture was written for others than just those who received the message. We must realise and implement this whenever we read Scripture.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
What does Paul mean by the curious statement held in 8v2, "if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know."?

In v1 he says that we all have knowledge, and in v4 and 10 he explains that the knowledge he is talking about is the fact that God is the only God, and that idols and other so called "gods" are nothing, because they don't exist.

This knowledge, however, is useless unless you apply it correctly. In v7-13 he explains how that knowledge (however wonderful) can, in fact, be a stumbling block to others. The important thing, then, is not that we have the knowledge, but that we exercise it with care in the love of our brothers and sisters. In v1 Paul says that knowledge without love merely makes one proud, and in v2 he says that this person in effect "knows nothing yet as he ought to know". What he is telling us is that the important thing is how we know, not what we know.


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Rob
8:6 Having 'one God, the Father' relates fundamentally to idol worship. The unity of God precludes worshipping another. Malachi Mal 2:10, speaking to the priests against their mixed marriage and idolatry, has already made this point.

Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
9:11 Concluding his arguments bout the unmuzzled ox Paul is telling the brethren that he has a right to expect them to provide for his physical needs - however, of course, the need should be met out of a cheerful heart rather than out of a feeling of obligation. Likewise we must think about our giving. Why do we give? What are we thinking? Is our giving simply a mechanical reaction to a collection bag or is there a cheerful giving to known needs?
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
 9:12  Paul had insisted that the "strong" brother who exercised his liberty independent and irrespective of its effect upon the "weak", sinned against Christ. Paul, by his personal example now shows he has rights, but refuses to exercise them out of principle.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
9:20-21 Luke, while recording The Acts of the Apostles leaves us many examples of how Paul practised this. His addresses differed when speaking to a Jewish or Gentile audience.When speaking to Jews, he spoke of David, which was attractive to the Jewish ears(Acts 13:22). On the other hand when speaking to Gentiles, he points out emphatically that there is no difference between them, the people, and the apostle. they all have the same nature(Acts 14:15). Then he takes the opportunity to preach the gospel message, starting with the Creator and His creative works.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John
1Cor 9:22 - Sometimes a little empathy, care, and mirrored behavior (psychologists/counselors often emphasize these techniques to establish rapport) can go a long way. We aren't to be of the world but we have to understand our neighbors in the world so we can be more effective in reaching them with God's truth. 
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Charles

8:6 In speaking of God as ‘the Father’ Paul is introducing a concept that would be foreign to Jews in that before baptism they would not have viewed Yahweh as ‘Father’. The gentiles who were involved in idol worship did not have a relationship with their god either.

9:9  Have we considered the possibility that God speaks of the ‘ox’ not being muzzled rather than comment about any other animal because the ox was the worker! As the ox was the animal that worked for man we are the servant that is to work for God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter
CHRIST DIED FOR THEM
 
If only we could keep in mind the fact that Christ died for all of us, we would be so much more considerate of each other. The example we are given of becoming a stumbling block to a brother or a sister is really forced home when we realise that Christ died for them. We are told, "For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ." (1Cor 8:1-12)
 
Can we think of times in our own lives when we have said or done something that has had the potential to turn anyone away from Christ? It may be that those people are not even part of a church but are potential converts for the Lord - people we do not recognise yet. Christ died for them. He died for the people in our church.
 
So let us be very careful to be considerate and to act in love toward all people. Far be it from any of us to do anything that might turn someone away from the saving hope we have in our Lord

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Robert

8:13 If we could always reduce our discussions on non fundamental maters to the impact that our behaviour will have on others we would certainly reduce tensions and conflict amongst ourselves. Of course we are not inclined to think this way because such thinking is contrary to the way in which the ‘flesh’ thinks. Such thinking is God centred whereas our normal thinking is self centred.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
PUFFING OR BUILDING?
 
"Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up." (1Cor 8:1)
 
The parable of the two builders gives us the example of two people. Jesus likens them to builders. The builders in the parable represent us building up our lives. We all hear the words of Jesus and in that way our knowledge is increased. Both built with this knowledge and evidently built fine lives. The difference between the two was that one heard the words of Jesus and put them into practice. This was the man that built with a firm foundation. The other heard the words of Jesus but did not put them into practice. (Luke 6:47,49)
 
We might not physically have heard the words Jesus spoke, instead we study our Bibles to find out what he said and who he was. Many Christians study their Bibles. What does our Bible study do for us? Certainly it will increase our knowledge but do we make an effort to put it into practice? All that Jesus said pointed us to living a life of love. Our Bible study should change our lives so that we become more loving.
 
"Knowledge puffs up." Like hot air. Like a balloon without a foundation. "But love builds up." Let us put into practice the principles of love we learn Then let those principles in action change our lives so that we become Christians with a firm foundation that can never be moved.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Robert

 

8:9 Exercising one's freedom in Christ should not be done at the expense of offending another.  Stumblingblock here means an obstacle which allows the possibility of apostasy to occur. 

It is incumbent upon the spiritually strong to be patient with the spiritually weak.  It is also the duty of the spiritually weak to work on becoming spiritually strong. That is done only by reading and considering the Word (2Tim 3:15-17).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

9:15 It would appear that the brethren and sisters at Corinth – or at least some of them – questions Paul’s actions and motives. Probably saying, or implying, that he only did what he did to benefit himself financially.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

9:24-27 Paul is using the analogy of the Greek games to show Christian discipline.  If we ever watch any events in the summer Olympic Games, we can reflect on Paul's lesson.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

8:9 There is always the danger that the way we behave in the Katter of things that bother others could cause spiritual damage to them. So if we know certain things we do trouble others we must be careful to avoid situations whereby this might happen, even if what we might do is perfectly acceptable to God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

8:4-7 The food that was offered to idols was sold in the public market.  To a Corinthian brother who was strong in the faith, eating this food would not be a bother.  But another brother, of less understanding, would be reluctant to do the same. 

For the sake of harmony, the stronger brother should not deride his weaker brother.  He certainly should not offer this meat to the weaker brother, even without his being aware.  Such is the sensitivity in Christ toward brethren. 

Of course, the lesson, for us, goes beyond food to all other areas of activity.  We must apply tact in our dealings with brethren under all circumstances.  Let us discern what is really important, spiritually, and not debate matters of preference.

9:1 etc. Paul asserts his apostleship.

9:6-11 Paul makes the case that it is reasonable for an apostle of the Lord to be supported in his every-day needs.

9:9 See Deut 25:4.

9:15 Although, there was reason for Paul’s support by the ecclesia, he declined that possibility, and was determined to pay his own way.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

9:5 There is no indication in the gospel records that Peter, for example, who was married –Matt 8:14- took his wife with him when he was with Jesus but now after his resurrection we see Peter taking his wife with him.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND JESUS

 

As Christians it should be our greatest aim to build up our relationship with God and Jesus. There are two ways we can do this.

The first is by learning all about them through reading and study and talking about them with other people. By doing this we are going to build up a very detailed picture of their characters, nature, plans and other details of what they are like and what they do.

The other way is to love them, talk to them and show them our love in the things that we do for them.

 

Imagine finding the person you think would make the perfect partner for life. You have fallen in love! What are you going to do about it? Are you going to study them from afar, find out all their intimate details - date of birth, favourite colour, their full name and address, the schools they went to and so on, until you can relate their history better than they can? Or will you talk to them, do things for them, allow them to get to know you, and spend time with them? Obviously spending time with them and showing love to them is going to build the relationship much better than just knowing all about them.

 

The same goes for our relationship with God and Jesus. Pauls words were these: "Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up." (1Cor 8:1)

 

Let's be those who put our knowledge into action and build our relationship in practical, everyday love.


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Robert
Having stated that he would be willing to give up all meat if it causes others to stumble, he now transfers the principle to his unmarried state (9v1-5), and intimates that he has given marriage up purely for their benefit, as he suggested a few chapters earlier (7v8, 32-35)
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Rob