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Reading 1 - 2Kings  4
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v.40 - This act of 'salvation from death' tends to be lost as it is tacked on to the end of a chapter with a miraculous resurrection. It seems that Elisha had the power to exercise from God even in small things of life.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.42 give ye them to eat provides that basis for the parable of the feeding of the five thousand. Matthew 14:16 Mark 6:37 Luke 9:13
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.33-35 - Reading between the lines here there was some time involved and a bit of a trial of Elisha's faith. We also have the job of bringing life to those around us. Let us not forget that this too needs fervent prayer and faith and patience, and not give up, because the result is the salvation of another.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
4:8 The 'great woman' contrasts with Naaman who was a 'great man' Whilst she believed that Elisha was able to help her Naaman took some convincing - by one of his servants.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
A KINGDOM PICTURE
Elisha did twice as many miracles as Elijah - just as Jesus did so many more than John the Baptist. And, just as Jesus miracles showed the coming kingdom, so did the miracles of Elisha. In 2 Kings 2 v 19 Elisha healed the water that was too bad to drink. In the kingdom there will be rivers of living water flowing.
The next two miraculous events were against wicked people and brought about their defeat. In the kingdom sin will eventually be defeated.
In this chapter he provided the widow with oil, redemption and livelihood. In the kingdom there will be no poor people and everyone will have everything they need.
Next he raised the Shumanite's son and in the kingdom death will need to be abolished and the dead will be raised.
He also made the stew in the pot safe to eat in verse 38. In the kingdom there will be nothing that can harm us.
That follows on to the next miracle where he fed 100 people with very little food. In the kingdom we are told, there will be no hunger.
In chapter 5 Naaman was healed from his leprosy. In the kingdom there will be no sickness and no sin.
And lastly, in chapter 6 he made the axe head float, which shows that the needs and prayers of people will always be met.
When Jesus returns to set up the kingdom we can look forward to a world of miracles and perfection.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Robert

There are some interesting contrasts between the 'great woman' and Naaman.

great woman
5:1
she stood before him
5:15
stood in the door
5:9

Whilst Naaman was not really interested in hearing the word of God the 'great woman' was quick to take heed.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
LIMITING FAITH

There are so many things that we think we know, that limit our faith in God. Take, for instance, gravity. Not many years ago people declared that anything heavier than air would never fly. Because people believed this, no-one tried to make airplanes. Now the sky is full of them. People also used to believe that the world was flat and were too sacred to sail too far incase they fell off the edge. Now that our knowledge and beliefs have changed, we no longer fear "the edge of the world."

In the same way as our beliefs about the physical world and the laws of nature have changed, so we have a lot to learn about many more "laws" that can be broken. Elisha's ministry was full of those mind blowing challenges. We believe that if you pour oil out of a jar, no more will come out than what was put in. Wrong. We believe that living people can die but dead people can't be brought back to life. Wrong. We believe that poison will always harm you if you eat it. Wrong. We believe that 20 buns of bread will not be enough to feed 100 people, yet they were all fed and had plenty left over.

The lesson is this: Let us not limit the power and abilities of God because our own small minds cannot comprehend how he might work. Let's not let our beliefs or knowledge limit our faith in God.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Robert
2Kings 4:1-7 A spiritual lesson lies behind this incident. We are all in spiritual debt, and no man is able to redeem his brother. yet a cruse of oil may be at hand in the word that is able to make 'wise unto salvation'. God never requires of us above that we are able... Ps 103:8-13

We have to do our part-

The woman, 'What hast thou in the house?' v2

Moses, 'what is in thine hand?' Exo 4:2

Jesus to the disciples, 'How many loaves have ye?' Mat 15:34

We must first evaluate what we have. What we have, the power of God's word, the access to God in humble prayer, can cause a re-action with divine power, sufficient for our needs. 'My strength is made perfect in weakness'. 2Co 12:9

Remember too that once started the supply was not stayed until all the vessels were filled


Derek Palmer [Tenby (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Derek
4:17-18 We should be aware that there must be a few years - at least 5 - between these two verses. We do well always to be aware that Scripture records what is important and so there may be quite long gaps between events which are adjacent in Scripture.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.44 "left thereof" The supply of food as a result of Elisha's miracle was more than adequate.This is paralleled in the miracles of Christ. Matt 16:9-10
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John

If oil represents the Holy Spirit, then the first few verses here speak of the unlimited gift when Christ returns (2Kin 4:1-7).  The rest of the chapter tells of a wonderful story.  A woman decided to build an extension for the man of God; the woman had a miraculous son; the son died, and was resurrected. Then on to 2Kin 8:1-6, when a famine is forecast and the woman leaves the land for 7 years. She returns, and is given all of her possessions back by the king.  Surely this speaks of the whole of God's plan!  The woman is Israel, who built a house (temple) for God. The Son, Jesus, was miraculously born, died, and rose again. Israel was then sent out of her land for a complete length of time (= 7 years), and then returned.  This is in our days, when Israel is returning. Finally, the king (= God), is to give her back her land, when Christ returns.

 


David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to David

 

V.23 The faith of the Shunammite woman should be noted.  She faithfully took care of her aged husband.  When her son died she did not hesitate to seek out Elisha.  But, her husband did not see the urgency of this situation.  This would suggest that his mental faculties were failing. 

V.24 The Shunammite woman was determined to make haste to see Elisha.  She saddled her ass and rode with haste to Mount Carmel, a distance of about thirty miles from Shunem.  Shunem was in the tribal land of Issachar, and the image of the woman's ass carrying its burden speedily over distance seems to fit the description of Issachar (Gen 49:14). 

V.26 The Shunammite woman would only discuss her problems with Elisha.  She seems to have had an insightful mistrust of Gehazi

Vs.29,30 Even though Elisha gave Gehazi his staff to place on the dead boy, the Shunammite woman insisted that Elisha come back too.  Eventually, the boy was restored to life.  Elisha is a type of Christ. 

If we employ the same faith in seeking out Yahweh as the Shunammite woman sought out Elisha, then the finality of our situation will also bring life (Isa 55:6; Matt 11:28; John 17:3). 


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

4:14 This barren woman had a son who, like Jesus, was raised from the dead  – So we see the son of a woman brought back to life and it appeared that she would never have a son as her husband was old – so her son was like the ‘seed of the woman promised to Eve Gen 3:15


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

4:29 Elijah’s injunction ‘salute him not’ highlights the single minded way in which Gehazi was to pursue his mission on behalf of the prophet. In like manner Jesus’ disciples were commissioned by the lord – Luke 10:4 – this is not an act of rudeness but an injunction to undivided service of God.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

Vs.33-36  Elisha typifies Jesus. Some of the miracles he performed mirror those of the Lord's. For example, the restoring to life of the Shunammite's boy is echoed by the Lord's revival of the twelve-year-old girl (Mark 5:41,42).

Vs.42-44  Elisha's feeding of the one hundred men is reflected by Jesus' feeding of the multitudes (Matt 14:19-21;15:35-37). 

Notice the increase in power from Elijah to Elisha (both Christ-types) to Jesus Himself.  Elisha had twice as much power as Elijah (2Kin 2:9). But, Elisha's power paled in comparison to Jesus' power, which was limitless (John 3:34).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

4:2 The prophet is willing to help the widow. However she has to take some of the initiative as well. God works like this. He is willing to help but expects us to do our part as well.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

Vs.8,9 Yahweh calls people to serve Him, and then tests them. Elisha was sent to the woman of Shunem for this purpose.  The woman perceived Elisha to be a prophet and offered him accommodation

Perhaps the woman of Shunem had heard the account of the widow of Zarephath (1Kin 17:9 (Sarepta in Luke 4:26), and thought that kindness to the prophet might result in good fortune. 

V.23 It appears that both the woman of Shunem and her husband knew of Israel's ordinances under the Law.  From the time of her son's birth until his sickness, the woman appears to be a person of faith. 

V.29 The death of the woman's son was a test of her faith.  Would (could) Elijah restore her son to health?  A desperate mother would try anything.  And so, Elisha tested the woman's faith with his orders to Gehazi.

Necromancers, in their ungodly practices, had their servants rush to a dead person's house, with staff in hand, not stopping for anything to maintain the virtue of the visit.  Was Elijah practicing the Dark Arts?  Would the woman go along? 

V.30 The woman's response revealed that her faith in Yahweh could not be shaken.  She had passed Elisha's test.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

4:22-23 Doubtless the father knew that his son was dead as did the mother. However the man did not see any benefit in sending for the prophet. The woman did. So we might conclude that the man did not appreciate the fact that the birth of the son had been a miracle and that the man of God should be at least informed.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

Vs.3,6 Elisha urged the woman to borrow many vessels.  He did not say a specific number, but left it up to the woman.  It was a test of faith, because Yahweh is a reactive God.  If the woman had brought 1 vessel, then 1 vessel would have been filled with oil.  Likewise, if the woman had brought 100 vessels, then 100 vessels would have been filled with oil, and so on. 

The lesson for us is not to limit our efforts.  Interestingly, oil is synonymous with the Word of God (see the parable of the ten virgins, Matt 25:1 etc.).

And so, Yahweh will give the increase to our efforts (1Cor 3:7).  If we study The Word a little, then our learning will be small.  If we study a lot, then the increase in learning will be much. There is no limit to Yahweh’s capacity to help: Is anything too hard for the LORD? (Gen 18:14).  Any result is limited to the amount of effort we exercise.

But, why should we study God’s Word? Well, if salvation is our goal, studying the scriptures is absolutely necessary (2Tim 3:15). 

And, knowing the Word will arm us against any false doctrine.  It will also give us the wisdom to handle the obstacle course of life.  The Word is a mighty weapon, and when a person learns to use this weapon, there is nothing on earth that can defeat him/her (Eph 6:17; Heb 4:12).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

4:15 The way in which the woman ‘stood in the door’ of the prophet’s house is matched by Naaman – 2Kin 5:9–we are being invited to reflect upon these two individuals. She, like Naaman later, initially did not believe the words of the prophet but later she did, just like Naaman.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

2Kin 4:1-7: V1 - is the widow (Isa 54:4-5) of the dead prophet the Jewish people or mother Israel under the Mosaic Law, is she a symbol of those who faithfully trust in God? V1 - do the two sons (Isa 50:1) represent the two nations of Israel taken into captivity or burdened by or in debt to the Law or in bondage to sin? V1 - might the creditor/debtor (Gal 5:3) be the Law and its demands or sin? V1 - As Elijah is much like John the Baptist, do the cries unto Elisha suggest pleas for Christ? V2 - is the little oil the power of the Holy Spirit, a flicker of light in a dark world, the Word or teachings of God, an anointing? is the house a reference to Israel? V3 - might asking neighbors for empty vessels refer to reaching out to potential believers (or Gentiles as they are neighbors) in order to share God's truth? V4-6 - is the door being shut with the two sons and the neighbor vessels filled (with the spirit or God's Word?) and inside a reference to the future kingdom in Israel having it's doors shut to those not filled with oil, is the abundant oil (Matt 25:3) a more general reference to the supply of God's Word (or the truth's redemption giving light) to those who trust in Him? V7 - is the paid debt redemption in Christ? Live thou and thy children on the rest does this echo eternal life in the kingdom?

David Simpson's 2004 comments seem insightful with the woman being Israel, the little chamber with a lamp being the temple/throne of David/tabernacle and the miraculously born only son being Christ, who died and rose again, and will return to his home, etc.  2Kin 4:8 - "Shunem" [(7766) means "double resting place, quietly"].  2Kin 4:20 - "taken" [Heb. "nasa" (5375) means "to lift, lift up, be exalted, bear up, carry, take", etc.]. 2Kin 4:29 - "...Gird up thy loins, and take my staff in thine hand..." reads much like how the Lord's Passover was observed (Exo 12:11). 2Kin 4:31-35 - V31 a wooden staff (echo of the cross?)was laid on the boy, V34,35 then after two more times (a total of three) the boy was revived/resurrected sneezing "seven times" (some believe "7" indicates spiritual perfection, God's seal or covenant number. It comes from the Heb. "savah" meaning "to be full or satisfied, have enough of". The seventh millenial day of rest is thought to be when Christ will return to earth).


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles

2Kin 4:38-41: V38 - "dearth" [Heb. "raab" (7725) means "famine, hunger, (can be literal or figurative famine of God's Word)"]; so some pottage or stew was cooked in a pot which may suggest sustinance both literal and spiritual. V39-41 - has wild gourds from a wild vine added in that would lead to death [perhaps there is a spiritual lesson that when good spiritual food has bad spiritual food or wrong doctrine or a false Christ mixed in it leads to death unless the wrong ideas are corrected with the bread of life (John 6:48,51,54) which comes from the true vine (John 15:1-8)]. 

2Kin 4:42 - "Baalshalisha" [(1190) means "thrice-great lord"] and perhaps echos the concept of three being divine perfection and Christ being the resurrected firstfruits (1Cor 15:20,23) bread of life (John 6:48,51,54) who feeds his flock. 2Kin 4:43 - "shall leave" [Heb. "yather" (3498) means "left over, to be left over, remain over, preserve alive, exceed, too much, cause to abound, to remain", etc.] and perhaps this echos the feeding of the 5000 (John 6:5-13) where there was also some bread "which remained over" (V.13).


Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Charles
Reading 2 - Jeremiah 52
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This chapter seems to be something of a summary of the latter events of the book. This, I suspect, is quite a rare thing in scripture. We need to look carefully at the events that God chooses to highlight here, as He clearly considers them important enough to repeat.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.17-23 in listing what was taken to Babylon draws heavily on the description of Solomon's temple. But notice that Jeremiah describes the physical elements which were removed whereas Ezekiel, who was already in Babylon, saw the spiritual aspect of the overthrow of Jerusalem when he saw, in vision the glory cloud depart [Ezekiel 10]
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
v.1-11 This fruit of sin we should pray against above any thing - Cast me not away from thy presence... (Ps 51:11). None are cast out of God’s presence but those who by sin have first thrown themselves out. Zedekiah’s flight was in vain, for there is no escaping the judgments of God; they come upon the sinner, and overtake him. We cannot escape the judgements of God except by remaining in His grace.
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
From the details in this chapter we know that the siege lasted 18 months or so. (:4,6). During this time Jeremiah had been preaching to the people telling them that they should submit to Babylon. It was a time of great hardship. Maybe Jeremiah was saved from the excesses of persecution by being put in prison for part of this time. (Jeremiah 32:28 etc)
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter
:28-30 Here we have quite specific details which show when the three separate captivities of Jews from Jerusalem took place.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
J52:1-34 In cataloguing the history of the way that the kings were treated in captivity this part of the prophecy of Jeremiah  reads like the historical books of Kings and Chronicles. It serves to, after all the judgments have fallen on Israel. Provide some data about what happened in Babylon - a period of 70 years about which we know very little. Rather like the 37-8 years between Israel being turned back into the wilderness and the last couple of months of the wilderness wanderings.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
V.31-34 We understand that there is a historical tablet in the museum in Berlin confirming this release of Jehoiachin.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
V.31 Evil-Merodach was the son of Nebuchanezzar.  His name means worshipper of MardukMarduk (or Merodach), sometimes known as Bel (Baal = Lord) (Jer 51:44), was the chief god of Babylon.  He was considered to be the creator of all things, and all Kings of Babylon were necessarily considered sons of Marduk.  Both Isaiah and Jeremiah mocked the worthlessness of Marduk (Isa 46:1,2; Jer 50:2).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael
When the Babylonians captured Jerusalem, Solomon’s temple had only been built for 417 years.  All the carefully planned and executed work overlaid with gold was destroyed. When the temple was built, Israel was a united country, very prosperous and at peace. Now, just over 400 years later, the northern ten tribes had gone, and three of Judah’s kings were already in captivity. Israel was the only country in the world that God had chosen – and look at them!  What a disgrace!  Let’s pray that we learn the lessons and please Him better.
David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to David

52:4-5  So we see that the city of Jerusalem was besieged for 18 months. Give a thought to the idea of being shut up in a walled city for all that time. The personal suffering must have been tremendous. And all of this was because the people were rebellious thy had been told to accept the Babylonian captivity and to go the Babylon – Jer 29:4


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

52:31 In marking time from the beginning of Jehoiachin’s captivity Jeremiah follows the way in which Ezekiel marks the passage of time in his prophecy – Eze 1:2 etc.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter
52:30 This is not recorded in either the Kings or the Chronicles. It probably took place during the commotions that followed the death of Gedaliah Jer 41:18 , 2Kin 25:26
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to John

52:8-9 The capturing of Zedekiah has already been spoken of by the prophet Jer 32:4


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

 

Vs.10,11 Nebuchadnezzar was the servant of Yahweh(Jer 25:9).  He carried out Yahweh's will on Jerusalem and Judah.  Zedekiah, who had been spiritually blind, was now physically without sight. 

Vs.24-27 The religious leaders (blind leaders of the blind Matt 15:14), together with the military and civic leaders, were eradicated.  With leadership comes responsibility: Much is required from the person to whom much is given (Luke 12:48).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Michael

52:31 In marking time for the captivity of Jehoiachim we see that as far as God was concerned, even though the people remained in the land for another 11 years the captivity had already started.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter
v 4,5 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Was overturned>History of fulfilment
5. Judah (the Southern Kingdom) continued for another 200 years after Israel, the Northern Kingdom and the last king was Zedekiah. It was overtured three times (prophesied
Eze 21:25-27), then to remain desolate for many years Hos 3:4.
 - The first overturning was in BC 606 in Jehoiakim's reign. (Prophesied
Jer 27:6) 2Kin 24:2, Dan 1:1, 2Chron 36:6.
 - The second overturning was in BC 597 in Jehoiachin's reign
2Kin 4:10, 2Chron 36:10.
 - The third overturning was in BC 587 in Zedekiah's reign. (Prophesied
Jer 21:7, Jer 34:2) Jer 38:28, Jer 39:1,2, Jer 52:4-5, Eze 24:1-2, 2Kin 25:2, 2Chron 36:7.
Go to
Deut 28:49 to see more details of the history of Israel and its overturning.
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Roger

ROLE MODELS

 

Who do we set up as our role models? I have heard it said, and it seems to be quite true, that if you want to see what someone is likely to be like in twenty or thirty years time, look at their parents. Like it or not, our parents are usually our gretest role models. But there are also others: brothers and sisters, auntes and uncles, teachers, coaches, friends, fictional heroes, and those seen on the screens of our movie theatres and televisions. We need to carefully choose the role models we follow in our lives.

 

King Zedekiah's downfall is summed up in one sentence. "He did evil in the eyes of the LORD just as Jehoiakim had done." (Jer 52:3) Zedekiah had chosen the wrong role model. Had he looked back a little further into his family tree, he could have chosen Josiah, Hezekiah, or even David to be his role model, and things would have turned out very differently. But in following the bad example of Jehoikim, Zedekiah and all Jerusalem with him suffered under the judgement of God.

 

So let's stand back from our lives for a moment and consider who we choose to follow. Are they leading us in the right way toward God and toward life Or are they leading us away from life and toward judgement? Let us follow only the best role models.


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Robert

 

Vs.4,5 Jerusalem was under siege for 18 months, starting in January and ending in the July of the following year.

V.6 After an18 month siege, summer had arrived and the residents were starving. Cannibalism was widespread (Jer 19:9).

Vs.10,11 See Jer 39:6,7.

Vs.12,13 The temple was burned in August 586 BC.

V.24 This Seraiah is not the same Seraiah of Jer 51:59-64.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

Why are the items of the temple mentioned in particular here (v17-23)? Probably because it signalled the end of Solomon's seat in Jerusalem, which was synonymous with the temple and its glory.

To give an idea of the scale of these items, here's a picture of the bronze pillars in relation to a person: http://www.provelo.co.uk/images/Bronze%20pillars.jpg

These pillars (without capitals) were 75mm thick hollow bronze tubes, around 1.8m diameter and 8m tall. Taking the density of bronze as approx 8000kg/m3 it makes the weight of one pillar 21500 bags of sugar, or 300 adults or 22 Metric Tonnes a piece. No wonder neither Babylon nor Egypt had bothered removing them before!


Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Rob

52:31-34  This section of Jeremiah’s prophecy matches 2Kin 25:27-30which is the historical record of these events


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter
Reading 3 - 1Corinthians  12 and 13
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13v.8 tells of the long-lasting nature of the 'new commandment' of love. It has the ability to last even when these other (previously much revered) things have long since passed off the scene. Here Paul is warning that the miracles and the prophesyings would cease - that God would remove the direct use of his power from men - but that love must take over and bind us together instead. ch.1:10,13
Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter

12:25 That there be no schism in the body marks the point that there was schism at Corinth. In fact the schism was about the very issue of the operation of the spirit gifts. The brethren vied with each other to show how the gifts were at work in them.
12:31 'But covet earnestly the best gifts' implies that some gifts are more use than others. The following passage shows that there is an ordering of the spirit gifts. 1 Corinthians 12:28 Ephesians 4:11
Notice the gift of tongues is at the bottom of the list, and notice also that Ephesians 4 provides the reason for the gifts - they were not given for self gratification, this was the problem at Corinth.

13:12 Some of the language in this verse draws on
'glass' Exodus 38:8
'darkly' Numbers 12:8
'face to face' Numbers 12:8
Thus the elements of the law are contrasted with the way in which Moses had close communion with Yahweh. Moses, not the law is our pattern.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2001      reply to Peter
ch 12 - The issue of spirit gifts is related to the issue of unity. Look at the use of the word 'same' (:4-11) and 'one' (:12-14)

ch 13 - Whereas this chapter is often read at weddings to speak of the love that the couple have for each other this is only but one aspect of the love spoken of. Truly the love between a husband and wife is an aspect of the love spoken of in the chapter. However this type of 'love' has to also shown towards our brethren and sisters.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2002      reply to Peter

12:28 The use of 'first, secondarily, thirdly,' when speaking of the Spirit gifts we see that there was an hierarchy of Gifts. It is interesting to see that 'tongues' is at the bottom of the list - though many today exult in 'tongues' as if they are the most important - just like was happening at Corinth. The obsession with 'tongues' is a manifestation of pride.

13:12 'darkly' 'face to face' quote Numbers 12:8. The context in Numbers 12 is that there were those who questioned Moses' status as a spokesman for God. So it is most appropriate when thinking of the criticisms Paul experienced in Corinth.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2003      reply to Peter
12:25 Paul returns to an opening question 1Cor 10:13   showing that disunity in the church violates the principle of the unity of Jesus.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
13:11 We all know how children argue. This is what Paul is speaking of when he speaks of 'when I was a child'.
Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Peter
ch.12 - ONE BODY, ONE HEAD
 
We are made up of one body out of lots of different parts.  Our hands are different to our ears but both are needed for the body.  In the same way our legs are very different to our eyes but we need them both for the body to function properly.
 
It is the same with the spiritual body - the ecclesia.  It is made up of many different people, some of them so different that we wonder if they can really be part of the body.  But what does an ear know about being a toe?  They are both so different that there is no way they could understand how the other works, what they do, or how they feel.  The same goes for us in the body of Christ.  Just because some people don't fit into our mould doesn't mean that they are not part of the body. 
 
The only part that can truly understand the function of the other parts is the head.  That position is reserved for Christ himself.  Mutant animals born with two heads will sometimes pull themselves apart as they make two conflicting decisions at once.  But we only have one head, the Lord Jesus Christ and we must not try to supplant his position.  Instead let's be content with the position we have been given and be the best that we can be for our Lord.

Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to Robert

13:4 Not only do we see what charity is not; we see what it is. It "suffereth long" it is patient, a lack of patience was a problem at Corinth. 1Cor 11:33, 1Cor 14:27 ;30. it is "kind". CHRESTEUOMAI (5541) This charactiistic is a fruit of the spirit. "gentleness"  Gal 5:22. It "rejoiceth in the truth". it "endureth all things". it is durable like the word of God. It "never faileth" or as the R.S.V. renders it "love never ends". It is the greatest (v.13) because it encompasses faith and hope, and unlike faith and hope it will continue in the kingdom age.      


John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2004      reply to John
13:12 When looking through a mirror, the reflection appears to be behind the mirror, so that we see it through the mirror, not directly. The apostle is looking forward "when" he will see directly and have a perfect vision and understanding. 
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to John

 

The lesson of Ch.13 is extremely important.  We might be doing the right thing, but unless it is done in the right way, it is unacceptable.  We might serve Yahweh because we know it is right and, therefore, our duty to do so.  But unless we serve in love, we are wasting our time.  Duty is one thing, love another. 

And so, let us examine our motives and our attitudes.  Yahweh gave us the opportunity of life through an act of love (John 3:16).  We are to reciprocate by serving Him in love (Matt 22:37-39).  Part of that service is for us to love one another (John 15:12).  Let us not be guilty of acting by duty and not by love, for we do not want to arrive at the judgement seat to be rejected for the wrong attitude (Matt 7:22,23).


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2005      reply to Michael

12:2-3 Notice the contrast. The idols were dumb, people who were moved by the spirit spoke.

13:7  Following the thought the first time we went through Corinthians this year. Try to put just one of the attributes into practice in daily living. How about ‘bearing all things’ when it comes to our relationship with others?


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER (v.25)

What is our response when a brother or sister is honored? How do we respond when someone is suffering? We are called to rejoice with those who are rejoicing and weep with those who are weeping. Rom 12:15 Too often, unfortunately, we are jealous of those who rejoice and separate ourselves from those who weep. Believers are in this world together - there is no such thing as private or individualistic Christianity. We can't stop with enjoying only our own relationship with God, we need to get involved in the lives of brethren and sisters.

1Cor 12:25 "members should have the same care one for another"


Peter Dulis [toronto west]     Comment added in 2006      reply to Peter

13:1 It might seem an over simplification to speak so highly of ‘charity’ however if ‘charity’ is manifest other problems take their rightful place – 1Pet 4:8.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Peter

 

12:7-10  In order to establish the ecclesia, brethren were given a particular Spirit application. Jesus, the head of the ecclesia, possessed all the applications of the Spirit (John 3:34).

Today, Jesus sits at the right hand of His Father in Heaven and is all-powerful. His brethren do not now possess gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Nevertheless, each member of the ecclesia has ability, in some way, to support the ecclesia and to promote the Gospel. As with the first century brethren, each member is part of the body of Christ. Therefore, all must pull together as one for the common cause.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2007      reply to Michael

13:4-6 Notice the recurring ‘not’. We might have thought it more appropriate to describe ‘charity’ in terms of what should be done rather than what should not be done. However Paul is drawing on inappropriate things that the Corinthians were doing to highlight that such behaviour demonstrated that they did not understand ‘charity'.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2008      reply to Peter

12:18 The very diversity amongst believers is the strength and completeness of the #body of Christ’ so we should rejoice in the variety of believers with whom we meet!


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Peter

 

12:8-10 There are many spirit gifts mentioned here:

-wisdom
-knowledge
-faith
-healing
-miracles
-prophecy
-discerning of spirits
-speaking foreign languages
-interpreting foreign languages
 
Those who claim to have spirit gifts today seems to either speak in nonsense utterances or attempt to heal the infirm.

12:28 Notice that apostles, prophets, and teachers rank higher than any of the gifts mentioned in 12:8-10. That means, the preaching and teaching of the Word are more important than healing and speaking foreign languages etc.

13:9,10 The spirit gifts were eliminated when their purpose was fulfilled.  That was when the work of the apostles was completed (their witness, preaching, and completion of the New Testament). The gifts could only be passed on by the apostles through the laying on of hands (Acts 8:18).  When the apostles died, and their work completed, then the spirit gifts ceased.


Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)]     Comment added in 2009      reply to Michael

12:18,24,28 Note the repeated use of ‘God hath’ which should cause us to appreciate that He calls who He will to make up His church.


Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Peter

LOVE DOES NOT DELIGHT IN EVIL

"Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth." (1Cor 13:6)

I used to work with people who were preoccupied with looking for the worst in other people, and hoping that bad things would happen. Even though they claimed to hate the person they centered their wrath on, it was that person that occupied their thoughts all day, every day. Personally, I cannot see the point in wasting all my time thinking about or plotting for someone that I consider is not even worthy of my thoughts. But not only does this happen in a working environment, I have even seen it happen among believers.

 

This sort of action is not showing love. It is delighting in evil. We need to change our attitude to grow to live the most excellent way. We should be those who rejoice in truth and right whether it happens to be someone we like or someone we don't like.

The attitude David showed is a good practical one for us to follow. "They repay me evil for good and leave my soul forlorn. Yet when they were ill, I put on sackcloth and humbled myself with fasting. When my prayers returned to me unanswered, I went about mourning as though for my friend or brother. I bowed my head in grief as though weeping for my mother." (Psa 35:12-14)


Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)]     Comment added in 2010      reply to Robert