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- This admission, straight from the mouth of 'the sweet Psalmist of Israel',
makes it quite clear to us that these Old Testament writers were not writing their
own words. It is a very important truth and worthy of our meditation. The fact
is picked up in the New Testament - Matt.22:43,
Mark 12:36, Acts 2:31. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.5
- These are most poignant words. David realised that he had received wonderful
promises about his family, but his sons had not lived up to the promises. However
he was still convinced of the everlasting nature of the promise - he looked for
the Messiah even though he now knew that Solomon was not the son promised in 2
Samuel 7. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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v.4 - the light - such a theme of scripture. Let us be sure that, like David, we walk in the light. Prov.4:18, Isa.60:1-3,18-20 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 23:4
The mention of 'tender grass' is like the 'mown grass' (Psalm
72:6) linking this Psalm which is for Solomon with these last words of David.
Chapter clearly showing that David saw Solomon as a fulfilment of the promises
of 2 Samuel 7. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :34
David's reliance on the family of Ahithophel is seen here, Not only was Ahithophel
David's counsellor. Ahithophels' son was also one of David's mighty men. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| 23:8-39 This list of David's mighty men and their valiant acts is a summary which goes back to before he was king in Hebron. For the water of Bethlehem incident ( 23:14-16) was whilst he was a fugitive from Saul. In a way it is like the summary given after David received the promise.(2Sam 8) It seems that summaries are given after major events in David's life. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.5 In this verse we have an extention of the rainbow covenant. Gen 9:8-17 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| David's act of worship in pouring out the Bethlehem water to God, instead of drinking it, is one of extreme devotion (2Sam 23:13-17). David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to David |
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V.2 confirms that David wrote under the inspiration of Yahweh (2Pet 1:21). Vs.3-5 After Yahweh states the qualities of an acceptable ruler, David seems to say that he is not worthy when he states in v.5: Although my house be not so with God... This KJV rendering is a strange translation. The Hebrew Masoretic text, translates it: For is not my house established with God? This is more compatible with the sense of the discourse. V.34 It is ironic that Eliam, the son of Ahithophel, is listed as a mighty man of David. It was Ahithophel who sided with Absalom in his rebellion against David. He probably did this to pay David back for disrupting the life of his granddaughter Bathsheba through adultery, and the murder of her husband. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Michael |
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V.18 Joab's brother Abishai was chief among three of the mighty men. Vs.24,37 Abishai's other brother Asahel and his armor-bearer were among the thirty mighty men, but not Joab. What's this saying about Joab? Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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23:1-5 The repeated use of ‘said’ and ‘spake’ associated with ‘the spirit of the Lord’ indicates that david both realised that he had spoken n the past by inspiration and that those words had aught him. Do we have such a real experience of the word of God teaching us? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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23:4 The ‘clear shining’ seems to be echoed in Isaiah’s description of a time of blessing – Isa 62:1 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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Vs.3,4 The just (righteous) ruler who is like the light of the morning is referring to Jesus (Rev 22:16). V.39 Uriah the Hittite, whose death was caused by David, was counted as one of the thirty valiant men. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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Why is there a list of mighty men immediatly following the last words of David? In v5 we see that David's focus was on the increase of his house. Naturally, his last thoughts were concerning his heir, Solomon, whom God had promised would build his house (2Sam 7:12-13). David had been reading his bible and knew all about Gideon, who he identified with a great deal. After Gideon had valiantly led Israel and passed off the scene, one of his sons (Abimelech) had killed all the rest (Judg 9:1-5) except for the youngest who narrowly excaped. David knew that this would likely be the outcome of his own situation once he had died. He had many sons, and Amnon, Absalom, and Adonijah had already proved themselves capable of great treachery. In v6 David likened his rebelious sons to thorns, just as Abimelech had been likened to a bramble in Judg 9:14-15. His son Solomon, younger than the other sons, would need to be "armed with iron and the shaft of a spear" so that they would be "burned with fire in their place". Compare Judg 9:15 and 2Sam 23:6-7. So then the answer: The list of mighty men was a list of those whom God had prepared to protect and establish His annointed. We can see this born out in 1 Kings chapters 1-2 in the person of Benaiah the son of Jehoida. Interestingly, this was the man described in the list of mighty men as having a great spear... Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Rob |
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23:7 the staff of a spear which is to impact upon the one who will be the deliverer is a prophecy of Jesus’ death – John 19:34 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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23:4 The blessing of the tender grass springing up after rain has its origins in the blessings of Moses – Deut 32:2 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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V.1 It is not clear what the phrase the last words means. Does it mean that these are the last poetic expressions of David? Or, does it state that what is written here has no connection to what was written before? Remember that the Hebrew Scriptures had no chapter divisions. And so, it was not necessarily obvious where one discourse stopped and another began. Vs.6,7 In this present dispensation, no one can rid the earth of worthless, evil men (sons of Belial). Nobody is protected enough (equipped) to deal with the situation (cannot be taken with hands). But, one who is protected (arms himself with iron and the shaft of a spear, ESV) will be able to destroy them. When Jesus returns to earth, He and His saints, who will be protected by immortality, will be able to confront evil men and nations, overcome them, and destroy them (Rev 11:18). The earth, at that time, will be as corrupt and violent as it was in Noah’s day, just before Yahweh sent the flood (Gen 6:11,12; Luke 17:26). If we are not living in those days now, one shudders to think what conditions will be like as time progresses. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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| 2Sam 23:3-5 First Principles>Sure mercies of David>King This is an everlasting covenant sworn to David, and it did not take place in David's lifetime 2Sam 23:3-5 but there will be a future fulfilment Psa 89:3-4. Psa 132:11 is quoted in the New Testament and applied to Jesus Acts 2:30, Acts 13:22-23. This shows that Jesus will be the future King. For more about the King, go to 2Sam 7:12-16. Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Roger |
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23:5 David may have cherished the thought that Solomon was to be the Messiah that would be crowned after his death. However, nearing the end of his life, he realises that the plan and purpose of God extends far further into the future. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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2Sam 23:1-7 - the last words of David - "a man after mine own heart" (Acts 13:21-22). 2Sam 23:8 - the name of the chief of the three appears to be mentioned later (1Chron 11:11) as "Jashobeam" [(3434) means "the people will return"]. Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Charles |
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| v.3
- Like Israel, we too have two options. These words are spoken to us as well as
them. See also ch.18:7-10
and 36:3. Every individual
has a chance to make the choice between life and death. God makes this offer -
and this threat - to each one of us. Israel's response is there for a lesson.
Isa.1:16-19,
Eze.18:27-30, Jonah 3:8-10, 1Kings 21:27-29. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.1
- By introducing this messages as 'in the beginning of the reign of Jehoiakim'
we know that we cannot be any more than 22 years from the final overthrow of Jerusalem. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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| v.3
- There are many who have a problem with the way this, and other similar passages,
is worded. It is worded as though God does not know the outcome, when it is clear
from other places that He does. Surely the reason for this is so that it makes
sense to us, and that we see that we each have the responsibility to look after
our own life. It may be a foregone conclusion in the mind of God, but this does
not preclude our efforts, hence His choice to present this the way He does. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 26:6
The mention of Shiloh - repeating the earlier warning 7:12,14
- was powerful because God had rejected Shiloh because the priesthood was corrupt
just as it was in the days of Jeremiah. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| :4
Another quotation from
Deuteronomy 28:15 'if ye will not hear' :18 This comment about what Micah said provides us with data which dates Micah 3:12. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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26:2 In calling Jeremiah to 'stand in the court of the Lord's house' we see Jeremiah is a place where he has been commanded to stand before ( 7:2, 19:4) and where we will see him again (35:4). When God has a message to give to the people He is concerned that it will be given in a place where it will be heard. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| V.22 When we consider that it was Pharaoh-nechoh of Egypt who put Jehoiakim on the throne;(2Kin 23:34) we soon see why the readiness to send men into Egypt to bring back Urijah, after he had sought asylum in Egypt. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| V.20-24 This incident about Uriah shows us the peril that Jeremiah faced and how easily his life could have been terminated, except for the LORD'S faithfulness. It also shows the malignant animosity of the king and his ministers to the true prophets of the LORD. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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V.24 Ahikam came to the aid of Jeremiah. His son Gedaliah would be appointed governor over the people who were not transported to Babylon (2Kin 25:22). Jeremiah was one of the captives on his way to Babylon but was then released. He was given into the care of Gedaliah (Jer 39:14). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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| Jeremiah gives an open-air talk in this chapter. God told him to go into the court of the temple (Jer 26:2,3), and to speak to the people from all over Judea who came to worship there. So his message would be taken to all the people David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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26:22-23 The way in which Jehoiakim slew Urijah shows an amazing disregard of the word of God. As if killing the messenger will nullify the message! Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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26:3 Notice God’s desire. The nation are sinful and God wants them to repents so that He is able to forgive. Shouldn’t this be our attitude to our brethren and sisters who might fall away? Our desire should be for their repentance so that they might be restored. We should not, therefore, be looking for occasions against our brethren. Rather we should be looking for signs of repentance so that restoration can take place. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| 26:23 Probably if Uriah had stayed where he was, and put his trust in God, he would not have been slain by Jehoiakim. He showed no faith, hence he perished. He is an example to all of one who broke under trial. In Jeremiah, we have the exact opposite, who even under the threat of death, did not budge. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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V.9 The destruction of Jerusalem is compared to that of Shiloh . Shiloh is about 30 miles (50 km.) north of Jerusalem and was the religious center of Israel for over a century after the Israelites conquered the land (Josh 18:1). Archaeological findings show that Shiloh was destroyed by the Philistines in 1050 BC: hence the reference. V.13 Yahweh, in His mercy, was willing to relent and not bring destruction on Jerusalem and Judah. This was dependent on the people's turning to Him. The same holds true to us, as we have the same choice (2Chron 15:2; James 4:8). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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26:4 Israel were not to just listen to Scripture. They were to ‘walk’ in it also. This is the exhortation we are given – James 1:22. It is all too easy to acknowledge what Scripture requires with our mouths but for it not to affect the way that we live. This is why Israel were taken into captivity in Babylon. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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26:18 The appeal to the way in which Hezekiah listened to Micah and God’s wrath was turned away saved Jeremiah’s life – but did not change the heart of the king. He would not turn to God to avoid the captivity. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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Vs.9-11 Nobody likes to hear bad news, especially if it is directed to him/her, even if it true. People like to be stroked, and, therefore, try to rationalize that everything is going to be alright. But, they are not about change their ways (Deut 9:13). Anybody who preaches destruction is not going to be welcomed by people. In Jeremiah’s case, he had been preaching the same message consistently for many years. His hearers were now fed up and wanted to rid themselves of the source of irritation, Jeremiah. The people had turned God’s truth into a lie by choosing to worship idols rather than Yahweh, and they were not about to change (Jer 10:14; Rom 1:25). Vs.14,15 Jeremiah had to speak Yahweh’s truth despite the difficulties and danger (Jer 20:9). He was prepared to die, which would add to the culpability of all the innocent blood that had been shed (Matt 23:35). V.20 etc. This is the only reference to Urijah the prophet, in the Bible. With Urijah, fear overcame faith and he fled to Egypt. Urijah had signed his death warrant by fleeing to Egypt for sanctuary. Yahweh had prohibited that move. Jeremiah, on the other hand, remained, and was willing to take the possible brutal consequences of his witness. All true witnesses for the Truth will stand their ground and be prepared to suffer (Phil 1:29). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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v.20
- A reference here right back to Gen.3:15,
and surely looks forward to the kingdom, which God can describe as happening 'shortly'
from his position of immortality. 1John
3:8, Rev.20:1-3. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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15 v.4 - <5281> Patience is seen as a virtue which is to be developed in the Christ-like believer Luke 8:15 21:19 Romans 2:7 5:3,4 8:25 15:4,5 2 Corinthians 1:6 6:4 12:12 Colossians 1:11 1 Thessalonians 1:3 2 Thessalonians 1:4 3:5 1 Timothy 6:11 2 Timothy 3:10 Titus 2:2 Hebrews 10:36 12:1 James 1:3,4 5:11 2 Peter 1:6 Revelation 1:9 2:2,3,19 3:10 13:10 14:12 The great emphasis in this selection of passages demonstrates that not only is it a virtue but, by implication, is very difficult to develop. 16 v.23 - Erastus figures in the work of Paul as a companion of Timothy Acts 19:22 When Paul wrote from Rome he was still working with Erastus Romans 16:23 And is still associated with the work at the end of Paul's life 2 Timothy 4:20 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| 15:3
In speaking of Jesus quoting Psalm
69:9 we are forcibly reminded that Jesus was not self centred in his life.
He willingly took upon himself the criticisms against God. In other words living
the gospel requires us to identify with God and be wiling to accept that when
people blaspheme Him we should be hurt by those things said.
16:20 bruising satan echoes Genesis 3:15 which speaks of the seed of the woman destroying the serpent. Now we know that it was Jesus who 'destroyed him that hat the power of death [Hebrews 2:14] however we should not think that therefore we have nothing to do. Notice that Paul says 'under your feet'. We have to destroy the flesh in our own lives also. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| Ch.15 - I wonder
if the Church at Rome had not been giving aid to the struggling Jewish believers
Jerusalem? Paul mentions in 1v13
that he desires "fruit" from them, even as he had had it from the other
Gentiles. In 15v26-28
he calls the gift of aid to Jerusalem "fruit". I wonder if he is referring
to the same thing? In Philippians
4v15-17 he again refers to items of aid as "fruit", and in Titus
3v14 he calls the meeting of the needs of our brothers and sisters "fruitfulness".
I wonder if this is why he lists the old testament references in v8-12, which are all linking the salvation of the Gentiles in with the Jewish patriarchs such as Moses, David, and especially Jesus, as if to say "your salvation is bound up with that of the Jews, so help them!". In v26-27 he says that the Gentiles are debtors to the Jews for this reason, and if indebted to them for their salvation, then the least they could do would be to minister to them in material things! ch.16 - What does Paul mean in verse 20? Who is Satan, and how will he be crushed under the feet of the brothers and sisters? I wonder if the initial fulfilment of this is the subjugation of the Jews who had been hounding and pestering the brothers and sisters, trying to get them to turn back to the law. This seems to be what Christ is talking about in a similar context in Rev 2v9, and 3v9 "I will make those of the synagogue of Satan.. come and worship before your feet". Maybe more importantly, is the link of this verse to Genesis 3v15. Is Paul saying that even as Jesus crushed Satan under his feet in his death and resurrection, so we by association with him will do the same? Is he telling the brothers and sisters to patiently live out their lives, knowing that sin and death (or Satan) will have no more hold over them? Rev 2v7 "To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God." Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Rob |
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15:33 Continuing in the them we had the last time we read Romans we see Paul speaking of our God as ’the God of peace’ Paul is voicing a wonderful truth. But if He is a God of peace how should we be? 16:20 There seems to be a contradiction between ‘the God of peace’ and Him bruising Satan. However our God – who is a God of peace – will establish peace by overcoming the forces of evil in the earth. Jesus has shown the way. He destroyed the devil in himself (Heb 2:14) Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| 16:19 In a day in which so much emphasis is placed on freedom of thought, speech, and action, it should not be forgotten that God requires obedience to His commands. With what has been done for us it is our duty to love and worship Him. To be sure, it is our privilege to do this, but it is also our obligation. We sometimes hear, "We do not try to influence our children with resepct to what they believe, we leave that to them." Is that course really the right one? We are shown from the Word that it is not so Deut 6:4-9, Eph 6:1-4. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| Of interest here is the care and respect Paul pays to women and the value of their efforts in service to the Lord (Rom 16:1,2,3,4,6,12). Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Charles |
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15:8-12The repeated use of the word ‘gentiles’ highlights the relevant issue in this area. If you mark your Bible you might highlight each occurrence of the word ‘gentile’ so you will immediately appreciate what is going on in this area of Scripture next time you look at it. 16:4 When Paul says that Priscilla and Aquila’ laid down their own necks’ Paul is telling us that they risked their lives for Paul. I am left wondering whether I would risk my life for a brother – Jesus did. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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| SUPPORT IN PRAYER I heard someone say, as they were talking about their Sunday School, that when they asked for support, people were always willing to give money but what they really crave is support through prayer. This person suggested that of the ten that contribute resources, one of them consistently prays. Perhaps Paul had discovered something similar when he appealed to the Romans, saying, "I urge you, brothers, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to join me in my struggle by praying to God for me." (Rom 15:30) Why is it that we find it so hard to pray? In reality, prayer should be the easiest and most effective ways we can support anyone. Prayer costs nothing; it can be done as often as we like; it is directed to God - the one who holds all power in his hand and can supply our every need; prayer should be something we enjoy - having conversation with God; and it is so simple that it takes no special skill or wealth to do. People need support in prayer more than anything else they need. Like Paul, our church leaders, missionaries and teachers need our prayers. So let's not stop giving, but add immeasurable value to our gifts by praying for those we need to support. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Robert |
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16:3 Priscilla and Aquila are described as ‘helpers’ the force of the Greek is stronger. They were ‘fellow workers’. The work done even when Paul was not with them was an evidence of fellowship. Between them and Paul. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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15:1-7 Paul pleads for acceptance of one another; building up each other; striving for unity and praise. We too should: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves (Phil 2:3) while we: Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ (Gal 6:2). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Michael |
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16:10 ‘approved’ <1384> is a term which speaks of the integrity of the money merchant. This type of merchant only dealt with true and unadulterated coins. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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15:15 Notice the motivation. Paul wanted to put them in remembrance of what they had leant. The reason? Not because they had fallen away. But because God had given Paul ‘grace’. How often do we want to remind our brethren and sisters of their errors because we feel they are wrong rather than that we are so grateful for what God had done for us that we do not want our brethren to miss the mark and not share that benefit. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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15:1 Paul exhorts us to defer to our brethren. The strong should help the weak. This applies to both physical and spiritual situations. If done in the Spirit of Christ for salvation's sake, then all will benefit. 15:4 Here is another endorsement for the acceptance of the Old Testament as necessary for the follower of Jesus. 15:27 Followers of Jesus share in spiritual things, but they must also share (support their brethren) in practical, every-day things. 16:3 Priscilla and Aquila were expelled from Rome along with other Jews (Acts 18:2). 16:17 We must keep our eye on the ball for those causing divisions. What happened in the first century can happen today. And so, we must discern that what is said and done is correct (1John 4:1). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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15:22-27 Paul continues his explanation about the reason for his delay in coming to see them in Rome by explaining that he has been hindered from that objective by the generosity of the gentiles in meeting the material needs of the Jewish brethren in Jerusalem. Paul has been delayed from going to Rome because of the generosity of the gentiles and his need to take that gift there before he can do anything else. Thus Paul uses the generosity of the gentiles as a basis for cementing unity between the Jews and the gentile in the ecclesia. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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GLORIFY GOD If I was a stranger among your particular gathering of believers and I wateched what you all did together, what would I think your purpose of being together was? I might see you talking to one another about the weather, work or family and think you are a social club. I might see you involved in a Bible class or in some other Bible study and think that you are an intellectual group who choose to study the Bible. I might see you taking bread and wine and involved in baptism and other rituals and think that you are a ritualistic religious group involved in rites, ceremony and tradition. I might see you involved in music and singing and think that you are a musically based group intent on entertainment and performance. What should I see? Paul said, "May the God who gives you endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." (Rom 15:16) What I should see is a spirit of unity and love as I observe your group. I should hear you as a united group giving praise and honour to God. How do these things show through in our groups? As believers, when we meet together, let us foster a spirit of unity and make it our aim in whatever we do together, to glorify God. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Robert |
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| Consider the weight of these few words at the start of our reading: "...and not to please ourselves" (15:1). These words are the conclusion to the previous chapter, and should be read together with it. Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Rob |
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