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v.18 - This destruction of instruments of idol worship happens a number of
times, but sadly, each time man has created more to destroy. There are certainly
many lessons for us to learn if we will. Do we do any better? Are we destroying
the idols and the 'high places' at which we worship our own desires? Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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careful planning of Jehoiada the priest paid off. It would have been easy for
him to reason that as Athaliah was on the throne and there was no obvious son
to sit on the throne that there was nothing he could do about it. However, being
provided with one of the king's sons he was willing to wait and plan for seven
years before implementing his plan to remove Athaliah from the throne. ch.12
- A summary of some elements of the life of Johash is instructive. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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v.3 - Although Jehoash was described as a good king, this goodness did not
extend to making the people good by removing their high places where they worshipped
their idols. Hezekiah was the only one to do this (18:22),
immediately to be reversed by his son (21:3).
We are under a great responsibility to remove the high places, as it were, not
just from our own lives, but that of the whole community of believers. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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11:12 That 'the king's son' had been hidden in the temple for seven years speaks volumes. It tells us clearly that Athaliah had no tie for the things of the temple. On the other hand it would appear that the men that Jehoiada (11:4) had prepared to protect the king's son had been aware of his presence I the temple and had been faithful to God in not betraying him to Athaliah. 12:2-3 Whilst the king 'did that which was right' the high places 'were not removed' so we conclude that the spirituality of the king was not reflected in the people. This was often the case in the time of the kings. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| FAITHFUL PEOPLE Jehosheba is the first of a number of faithful people in this chapter. She rescued Joash from Athaliah's murderess intent and hid him in the temple when Joash was only a baby. She took her life in her hands to preserve God's kingly line. Jehoiada the Priest was another faithful man whose influence for good was very strong on Joash all the time that Jehoiada lived. He appears to have been Joash's chief adviser. The Commanders of the Guards were faithful to Jehoiada as they set Joash up as king. "They did just as Jehoiada the priest ordered." The People under the leadership of Jehoiada and Joash changed and became faithful to the LORD, tearing down the temple of Baal. Zibiah, Joash's mother, it seems, had a good influence on her son. The Workmen And Supervisors were faithful with the money they were given to use to repair the temple. "They did not require an accounting from those to whom they gave the money to pay the workers, because they acted with complete honesty." And Joash did what was right in the eyes of the LORD all the days of Jehoiada the priest. We too can be faithful in many different ways. Show your faithfulness in some way today. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Robert |
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11:14 That 'all the people of the land rejoice' when Jehoash was anointed kings indicates that even though the people were not fully worshipping Yahweh they did not like Athaliah to be queen. It is a case of a people just waiting for sound guidance. 12:16 The way that the 'trespass money' was dealt with was according to the requirement of the Law of Moses (Leviticus 7:7, Numbers 18:9) Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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| DISCHARGING
OUR DUTY It is a sad reflection on the priests, and even on the spiritual state of Judah as a whole, that they could not be bothered to repair the temple of the LORD. Even during the most God centered years of Joash, it seems that the priests and the people had not really turned to God Joash had given the priests a duty. They were to collect the money brought into the temple and then to use that money to make repairs to the damage found in the temple. But nothing happened. Presumably money did come into the temple. The priests were employed by God and so they had both the time and resources to fulfil their duty - even so, nothing happened. In the end Joash had to find a new way of repairing the temple. We may not be called upon to fund or repair a temple or church, but God has given us duties as Christians, and along with those duties he has given us the time and resources to be able to perform them. How are we going to use our time and resources? Will we fritter them away and waste them like the priests did? Or will we use them productively in the service of our God? As Paul says, "We are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." (Ephesians 2 v 10) Let's work had and do the good works he has prepared for us. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Robert |
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11:2 The way in which Jehosheba took and hid Joash may seem a natural thing to do but it was the means where by the line of David was preserved. 12:5-6 The counsel that the people were to work together in repairing the house of God was good. However, it seems, apathy set in and the work lay unfinished. How often do we start with good intentions and the help of others only for the work to fall by the wayside? Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| 12:10 Jehoiada was the first of the sons of Aaron ever to be called "high priest" He was an outstanding character, combining the office of priest with superb statesmanship. His preparations for the coronation of Joash were worked out in fine detail. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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We haven't read much of Judah for about 2 weeks. Asa reigned for 41 years (1Kin 15:10), and his son Jehoshaphat reigned 25 years (1Kin 22:42). Both were Godly. Then came Joram (also known as Jehoram) for 8 yrs, but he married Ahab's daughter, and was evil (2Kin 8:17,18). Joram's son Ahaziah only reigned for one year, and was killed by Jehu (2Kin 8:26,2Kin 9:27). This brings us to today's chapter, where Ahaziah's mother, called Athaliah, killed all the seed royal, and reigned for 7 yrs (2Kin 11:1-4). So Judah had 66 good years and 16 bad years. From today's chapter it's sad to note that there were "breaches" in the Temple (2Kin 12:5), which I presume had occurred during the 16 bad years. But good king Jehoash (or Joash) repaired it.
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11:17 So we see Jehoiada was waiting for a man of David to be old enough to be king so that the kingdom could be re established in truth. He effected the change but did not seek to himself the status. He was, however, the mediator of the covenant between the king and the Lord. Doubtless he became a faithful counsellor to the king.
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11:4 Jehoiada showed patience in waiting until Joash was 7 before arranging for him to be crowned king. Just because something is good and right it does not mean, necessarily, that it should be done immediately. In this case there was benefit in waiting. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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ENCOURAGE AND INSTRUCT
Encouragement and instruction are very important. Without them it is easy to go off track, to turn from doing what is right in God's sight and to do our own thing. Joash was a good example of this. About him we read, "Joash did what was right in the eyes of the LORD all the years Jehoida the priest instructed him." (2Kin 12:2) Joash needed the instruction and encouragement of Jehoida. When the time came for Jehoida to be taken off the scene, Joash's direction wavered and he ended up turning from the ways of the LORD.
Without instruction and encouragement, that could easily happen to any of us. What if we were discouraged? With enough discouragement and lack of guidance we could be almost be guaranteed to turn from the LORD, no matter how strong we are.
To stay completely strong and devoted we need the encouragement of each other. So it is up to us to spread the appropriate encouragement and instruction to each other. This is exactly what the writer to the Hebrews tells us when he says, "Let us consider how we may spur one another on to love and good deeds. Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another - and all the more as you see the day approaching." (Heb 10:24-25)
So let us encourage and be encouraged, instruct and allow ourselves to be instructed. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Robert |
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11:2 Jehosheba must have been a Godly person given that she clearly risked her life in saving Joash at great risk to herself. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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11:1 Athalia means afflicted of the Lord. She was indeed afflicted, having Ahab and Jezebel for parents, who were not the best role models. Athalia, particularly, emulated her mother. She had married Jehoram, the son of Jehoshaphat, king of Judah. Just as her mother had introduced Baal worship to Israel, Athalia introduced it to Judah. Like her mother, Athalia showed unrepentant viciousness in expressing her rage. And, like her mother, she came to a violent end as justice was dispensed against her. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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11:2,4 God never leaves Himself without a witness. These two faithful people – Jehosheba and Jehoiada – risked their lives. However God had promised that David would never want for a son to sit on his throne. These two were seeking to ensure that this was so. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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11:3 The temple was the one safe place to hide Joash, because only the priests had access. 11:6 The Sur gate is called the gate of foundation in 2Chron 23:5. 11:8 The ranges (KJV) refers to the ranks of soldiers on guard. 11:16 Athaliah was killed by the Horse Gate, which was a gate in the wall of Jerusalem where the king’s horses passed by on their way to and from the stables (2Chron 23:15). 12:1 Jehoash means given of Jah. Jehoash is the same person as Joash, that we read about in Ch.11. Joash is just a contraction of the name Jehoash. 12:18-21 The peace that Jehoash secured from Hazael did not last long. The following year, Hazael returned for more goods, but there was no more to be had. Jehoash went up against Hazael and lost. Later, a conspiracy against Jehoash took place in which he was murdered (See 2Chron 24:23). It is sad that Jehoash trusted in riches to try and secure peace. He feared Hazael more than he trusted Yahweh (Prov 29:25). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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12:18 Jehoahash sought to ‘buy off’ the Syrians by desecrating thins dedicated to God! Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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2Kin 11:2 - Athaliah was the "sister" [Heb. "achoth" (269) means "sister, half-sister, relative or (figuratively) of intimate connection"] of "Jehosheba" (wife of the priest Jehoiada and Ahaziah's sister - 2Chron 22:11) who hid the baby Joash which reminds of Moses and Jesus being hid (Exo 1:15-22;2:1-10;Matt 2:13-20). 2Kin 11:16 - the evil Athaliah was put to death where horses enter, reminds of her wicked mother Jezebel who was trampled by horses (2Kin 9:33). 2Kin 11:18;12:7,12,15 - the sinful temple of Baal was destroyed, then money that was usually the priest's went to faithfully restore the temple of the Lord by using wood and stone - perhaps an echo of Christ's betrayal, sacrifice (John 2:19) and victory over sin. 2Kin 12:2-32Kin 11:5 - the young king ruled almost jointly with a priest who "instructed" [Heb. "yara" (3384) means "to flow as water, to teach", etc.], was almost an echo of Melchizedek or Christ - sin wasn't entirely eradicated. 2Kin 11:3 - six years ("6" perhaps suggests the number of man with his associated sinful nature). 2Kin 12:1 - forty years ("40" perhaps suggests a period of probation, trial and chastisement). 2Kin 11:4,17 - three "covenants" [Heb. "briyth" (1285) means "covenant, in the sense of cutting, made between passing pieces of flesh" - perhaps similar to sacrifice, circumcision]. 2Kin 11:5,7 - three companies ("3" perhaps suggests complete, divine perfection, resurrection). 2Kin 11:4,21;12:1 - seven or seventh ("7" perhaps suggests spiritual perfection, God's seal or covenant number, to be full or satisfied, 7th millenial day of rest). Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Charles |
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Joash as a Type of Christ Joash was saved from among the dead (2Kin 11:2), and thus typified the Lord Jesus Christ who was saved out of death. Joash was hidden in the temple of Yahweh until the seventh year (2Kin 11:4), thus, representing the destiny of the Lord who ascended to the heavenly temple of Yahweh, hidden from the site of man until the time decreed. Athaliah destroyed the royal seed (2Kin 11:1) and during the absense of Joash, she drew the people from true worship (2Chron 21:11;24:7) just as the "children" of a symbolic Jezebel would later do the same along with persecuting true believers (Rev 2:20-23;17:4-6;18:23-24;Rev 5:9-10). Joash emerged from his hiding place to be proclaimed king; so it will be with Jesus when he returns. Joash ruled with the assistance of Jehoiada the priest, so the throne of David was jointly occupied by a king and priest; and Christ will reign as a king-priest (Zech 6:13). During the reign of Joash, the priesthood was revived; it will again be revived under the Lord Jesus (Psa 110:1-7). At this time Athaliah was slain and the false worship overthrown; in like manner the harlot-system of Revelation 17-18 will be overthrown at Christ's return. Joash repaired the temple and established true worship throughout the land with Jerusalem finding peace; the same will be true of Christ's reign (Isa 2:2-4;Psa 72:1-20).
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- God sees fit to speak to several of the prophets in this way - offering
them strength and comfort in their worries - encouraging them towards a braver
and more courageous approach. We do well to realise that it is the same God that
we worship and that he will support us in our preaching too. We do not go forward
in our own strength (unless of course we choose to, and then we should expect
to fail) but with the full armour of God. 2Kings1:15,
Jer.1:8,17, Matt.10:28, Acts 4:13, Eph.6:19 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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roll of a book .. without Revelation
5:1 v.3 - 5 Israel's rebellious nature was the very reason why they were in captivity at this time and why the temple was going to be destroyed in only a few years time. But because Amos 3:7 'Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets'. God was sending Ezekiel to warn them - though he knew exactly how they would respond. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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- Although this is a lead up to the next few verses where Ezekiel is required
to eat the roll, the implication is clear that we must not only devour every word
of the Lord but also we can surely draw the parallel with the bread which we break,
which together with the Word, constitues the manna which we have from above, revealed
in the obedience to death of our Lord Jesus Christ. Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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That Ezekiel was sent to a rebellious nation - the nation of Israel - who were
in captivity because of their sins is a powerful example of God's continuing love
and long suffering. Having overthrown Judah for their sins God is now seeking
their repentance in the land of their captivity so that He can show them mercy. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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| AFRAID Are you ever afraid to preach the word? I am often afraid, and it takes a huge amount of courage to overcome my fear. What should I say? How should I say it? When should I start? What will they think? What will they do? Will they despise me? These are all questions that go through my mind as I prepare myself to tell others about God, or even just to warn them that they are on the wrong path. So reading Ezekiel gave me a lot of encouragement and strength to face up to this challenge next time. God told Ezekiel to talk to his rebellious countrymen. It was not as if it was going to be easy. God said to him, "The people to whom I am sending you are obstinate and stubborn." (v 4) That's worse than some of the people I deal with! And he said, "And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briars and thorns are all around you and you live among scorpions. Do not be afraid of what they say or terrified by them, though they are a rebellious house. You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or fail to listen, for they are rebellious." (v 6 - 7) It can't be any worse for us. So let's take courage from Ezekiel and no longer be afraid, but be bold to speak out for the LORD our God. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Robert |
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| 2:6
It would appear that Ezekiel feared what would happen to him when he spoke God's
word to those of the captivity - even though he was a priest of God! We see another
indication in 3:9.
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| 2:1 So, in the light of the links with Daniel 10 we should not be surprised that Ezekiel, like Daniel (10:11) was told to stand upon his feet. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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V.4 The words which Ezekiel spoke were to be proclaimed as the words of God Himself. So in v.7 he is told that "thou shalt speak my words unto them" As in the case of Christ, so it was with Ezekiel. John 3:34 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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| V.8 We have similiar language used in both Jer 15:16, Rev 10:9-10 The idea is to possess himself fully of the message and digest it in the mind, not to actually eat it.. The message was to become part of Ezekiel. The same applies to each one of us today, the Word must become part of us, it must become our lifes. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to John |
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| V.8 Yahweh decided that Ezekiel should be a prophet of physical demonstration to show His will. He was presented with a scroll, and his first practical act was to eat it. We shall see later more involved and arduous demonstrations that Ezekiel had to perform. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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| Ezekiel was told that he must not be afraid of what the rebellious Jews said to him, he must preach to them. There’s a good lesson for us there, too. David Simpson [Birmingham Kings Norton (UK)] Comment added in 2005 reply to David |
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2:10 The book ‘written within and without’ is the basis for Rev 5:1 This book, therefore, was sealed until he came who was able to open it. So Ezekiel saw a book but was unable to see the details. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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V.3 Ezekiel was taken captive to Babylon in 597 BC and began his ministry about four years later, thirty-five years after Jeremiah began his. Jeremiah's pronouncements had proven true so far. But the Israelites were still a rebellious people. And so, they needed a prophet with them in captivity to remind them of Yahweh's continuing correction towards them. Jerusalem would finally be destroyed in 586 BC, and part of Ezekiel's job was to educate and sensitize the people to this coming event. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Michael |
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2:4 ‘impudent’ has the sense, in the Hebrew, of being ‘hard of face’ . That is they, instead of having fellowship with God (face to face), they opposed God face to face. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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2:4 ‘impudent’ <07186> means ‘hard of face’ – see RV margin. Elsewhere it is translated ‘stiffnecked’ Deut 9:6 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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V.1 Ezekiel was called Son of man. This parallels the description of Jesus throughout the gospel accounts (e.g. Mark 14:62). V.10 Ezekiel was shown a scroll that was written on both sides (unusual), containing woes. This is matched by a similar scroll, written on both sides, also containing woes (Rev 5:1). Only Jesus could open this scroll (Rev 5:5). Look for other parallels that show Ezekiel as being a type of Christ. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Michael |
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2:7 Ezekiel’s responsibility was to be a faithful witness to what God said. It was not his responsibility to ensure that the people changed their allegiance. Likewise the same is true for us. We need not make the message more palatable or attractive so we can gain converts. Our obligation is to present the message as it is. It is the responsibility of the hearer to decide how to respond to it. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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| v 3 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Was overturned>History of fulfilment Go to Deut 28:49 to see more details of the history of Israel and its overturning. Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Roger |
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V.1 Ezekiel, the Son of man, was told to: stand upon thy feet. Then he received a commission to witness against the Children of Israel. Similarly, Jesus, the Son of man, told Paul to: stand upon thy feet, when He commissioned him to witness to the Gentiles (Acts 26:16-18). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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If we've been following this second daily reading, having gone through Jeremiah and Lamentations over the last two months, we could be forgive for thinking: "here we go again!" In this chapter, a young man is once again commissioned to speak to Israel (2:3, Jer 1:7). God would once again protect that prophet from their schemes (2:6, Jer 1:8,18-19). And God would give him words to say (2:7, 3:4, Jer 1:7,9,17). Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Rob |
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2:2 The way in which ‘the spirit entered’ into Ezekiel and he stood up is echoed in the national rebirth in Eze 37:10 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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v.8 - I wonder how much we dwell on these wonderful issues. It seems we have
a tendency to dwell on the fear of the consequences of disobedience, to the exclusion,
if we are not careful, of a contemplation of the greatness of the gift of the
Almighty, and the gratitude we should have for this gift is perhaps thereby diminished.
Paul does dwell on this quite a bit. ch.8:7,
Phil.4:18, Eph.2:10, 2Tim.3:17 Peter Cresswell [Derby Bass Street (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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v.8 'No commandment of the LORD' Paul is saying that he is not quoting a principles
or teaching adduced by Jesus already. He is giving new inspired instruction 1
Corinthians 7:12 25 2 Corinthians 8:8 11:17 9 v.1 - 5 It seems that whilst the Corinthians had spoken enthusiastically about giving for the poor saints at Jerusalem Paul was anxious that the 'benefit' would not be available when required because they had not been 'laying up' each 'first day of the week' 1 Corinthians 16:2. 9 v.6 - 10 It is the spirit in which the 'bounty' is given that matters, not the amount. God can bless what is given. In reality God does not need our gifts to the work of the Truth. If we were not to respond to a need He will 'make enlargement from some other place' - see Esther 4:14. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2001 reply to Peter |
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ch.8 - Paul is concerned to establish the principle that a man should give as he can. In so doing he, by appealing to Exodus 16:18 in 8:15, shows that God is able to make up the shortages. In reality God does not need us to give anything. He can provide without our aid. However in allowing us to give we are associated with God in His provision. A wonderful provision. This is why 'God loveth a cheerful giver' (9:7) 9:11 'bountifulness' <572> is the same word which is translated 'liberality' (8:2) A consideration of all the uses of this word shows that the focus of the meaning is on singleness of mind rather than the quantity given. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2002 reply to Peter |
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8:10 We know that Paul had been collecting money for 'the poor saints at Jerusalem.' That the Corinthians had been ready 'a year ago' highlights the seriousness of the problem the Jerusalem ecclesia had. That is money was collected over a long period of time to relive their distress. Doubtless their financial distress only ceased with the destruction of the temple in AD 70 and the scattering of the believers. 9:7 'not grudgingly' speaks of an attitude of mind. It echoes the willing heart (1 Chronicles 29:6, 9,14,17) when people gave for the work of the temple. Of course the Corinthians were giving for the building of the temple - the ecclesia. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2003 reply to Peter |
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8:2 The 'liberality' 572 of the Macedonians was not that they gave money. But rather that their minds were focused on doing it. They were single minded. The word translated 'liberality' here is translated 'singleness elsewhere (Eph 5:5 , Col 3:22) 9:11,17 The word 'bountiful 2Cor 1:12ness(:11) and 'liberal' (:13) are the same word 572 which we saw in 2Cor 1:12. In fact of the seven occurrences of the word five of them are to be found in 2 Corinthians. |The full list is to e found in the comment for 2 Corinthians 1 for September 3rd 2004 Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2004 reply to Peter |
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| 9:15 Once again we have an English translation in which so much is lost. "unspeakable" The Greek is ANEKDIEGETOS (411) It is inexpressible, or indescrable. When we consider our Heavenly Father's grace toward each one of us, it is beyond anything that we can express, or describe; not unlike Paul's words in 1Cor 2:9 John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 reply to John |
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8:12 Giving to the work of the Truth is as important today as Paul's collections were. However, the attitude in our giving is of utmost importance. The willingness to give rises above the amount to be given. 9:7 Once the appropriate donation amount (for the individual) is decided upon, it should then be given with gladness. Remember that Yahweh is monitoring our hearts. The gift is of no importance to Him unless it is given with the right attitude (1Cor 13:3). Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 reply to Michael |
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8:9 Jesus was ‘rich’ being heir of the world. His poverty that he ‘became’ was to become a servant Phil 2:7. 9:8 Lest the Corinthians – or ourselves for that matter – are anxious that our giving will impoverish ourselves Paul reminds us that God abundant grace will meet our needs. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Peter |
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| GENEROUS We were recently led in a discussion about giving at which the discussion leader drew a line across he width of the whiteboard. The line was to illustrate the measure with which we give. On the left hand side he wrote, "don't give." This was followed by "grudgingly", "when needed", "give" (in the centre), "enjoy giving", "seek opportunities to give", and, on the far right hand side, "give beyond our means." There are many different groups and situations that ask or demand our money or time to be given, but no opportunity to give is more valuable than in the work or service of the Lord or of his people. So the question we ask is, How do we give to the Lord? Do we tend toward the grudging giver or do we give because that is what is expected of us or because we have to, and feel no emotion about it, or do we give and find pleasure in giving? The Macedonian churches are a great example of generosity. We probably wouldn't have even asked them for a gift because they were poor and in the midst of extreme trials. But this is what we are told they did: "Entirely on their own, they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the saints." (2Cor 8:3-4) These people, though they were poor, gave willingly and beyond their ability, and were richly generous. How generous are we? Let's be like the Macedonians and take pleasure in giving the gifts God gives, giving them back to him Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2006 reply to Robert |
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8:16 When Titus went to Corinth he did not elicit the generosity that Paul had hoped for and that they had promised. Doubtless Titus was not really welcome when he went to Corinth. Now Paul explains that Titus had gone to Corinth because of his care for them – they doubtless thugh he cared for Paul and the poor saints in Jerusalem and not for them. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2007 reply to Peter |
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| 9:6 This figure of sowing and reaping is very apt. In the natural order of things, the worker of the land has to take a portion of the good seed that he gathers at harvest and set it to one side for the time of sowing, at the correct time he must cast this good seed upon the ground, and literally leave it to die. It is by his faith that he goes through this exercise every year. The greater the sacrifice of the good seed, the greater the harvest. So it is with our spiritual sowing, the seed that we sow must die; that is to say, it is a matter of faith, there is not any expectation of any immediate return. Christ said "Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone, but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit" John 12:24 Those of the "world" look for an immediate return for their labors; while the follower of Christ shows his faith in the unfailing promises of God. John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 reply to John |
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8:6 So Titus had already been to Corinth to encourage them to be like the Macedonians. However it would appear that he had met with little success. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2008 reply to Peter |
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8:10-11 It might be thought that letting a year pass between the willingness being expressed and this call to make the offer shows a dilatory approach by Paul; Why didn’t he chase them up before, we might ask. However the point is not the money, it is the willingness. Paul was encouraging them to make the decision and give themselves. The wait, therefore, was not idleness on Paul’s part. Rather a willingness to wait for the Corinthians to put into practice what they had offered. It had to be their offering and not be made by coercion. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Peter |
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8:10 The event a year ago was Paul's recommendation, in his first epistle, to make provision for poor brethren (1Cor 16:2). 8:18,22 The brother (or brothers) is not identified anywhere. 9:9 Paul quotes from Psa 112:2. This psalm is worth re-reading. It profiles the attributes of a godly person, one aspect of whom is that of a cheerful, generous giver. Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 reply to Michael |
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8:23 It would appear that Titus’ position was questioned by some in Corinth so Paul lays out quite clearly his position and status. Peter Forbes [Glenfield (UK)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Peter |
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EXCEL "But just as you excel in everything - in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in your love for us - see that you also excel in this grace of giving." (2Cor 8:7) Just as Paul described the Corinthians, we need to be well rounded Christains, excelling in every area of our Christain lives. Excel in Faith. We need to be able to take God at his word and to believe what he says without question. Then we must live in that faith without looking back. Excel in Speech. Our speech should stand out from the rest for two reasons: 1. Because we do not swear or use profanities; 2. Because our conversation points people toward God. Excel in Knowledge. The knowledge of God and of his word is the area of knowledge we need to excel in. "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope you have." (1Pet 3:15) Excel in Complete Earnestness. Always be enthusiastic, motivated and passionate in the way we live for God. People are earnest about all sorts of things - we need to be even more so for God. Excel in Love. Love needs to be shown even in extreme circumstances. God loved us while we were still sinners. Let us show the same love to each other. Excel in the Grace of Giving. All we have comes from God. There are no exceptions. Everything we have has been loaned to us to use for his glory in this life. Let us freely share what has been freely given. Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2010 reply to Robert |
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