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v.19 - 28 - People chosen directly by name by God. Is this unique? By the end of all their work (Josh.19:51) these are called the 'heads of the fathers of the tribes'.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v. 11 Chinnereth is the ancient name for the Sea of Galilee here Deuteronomy 3:17 Joshua 13:27 After this the name does not occur again.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
We see in this chapter the fact that it is God that determines the borders of our kingdoms, as he has ultimate control of all things. There is much emphasis on the borders of lands - land is wealth in the eyes of man. In the eyes of God, all border changes are towards the fulfilment of His ultimate purpose.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
We now, on the borders of the land, see the first time that the borders of the inheritance are laid out in general terms.
:3 The south border
:6 The west border
:7 The north border
:10 The east border
:13 The land was to be inherited 'by lot' that is it was not left to the people to vie for the best piece of the land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
There is value, by using a map if necessary, in following the exact line of the borders. It will help to familiarise us with the areas where each tribe settled. After all it is to be our inheritance as well!
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
The order of the points of the compass given here is 34:3 South 34:6 West 34:7 North 34:10 East This is the only time this order is given in Scripture. Why would this be? Is it because Israel entered the land in the South?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
In this chapter we have the boundary of the inheritance of Israel. We ask the question, did the Children of Israel ever possess all of this area?
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
Of the twelve princes appointed by God to divide the land, only Caleb of Judah remains of the twelve spies, 38 years previously. God kept His word in Num 14:30.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to David
Some have suggested that the Promised Land includes the Sinai and part of Egypt. But clearly these boundaries do not go south into the Sinai. Besides, it is a preposterous idea to suggest that the land of slavery and idolatry could be part of the Promised Land. This would mean that the Children of Israel were in the Promised Land even before they were liberated.
Israel held the Sinai Peninsula but gave it back to Egypt even though the Israelis had built towns there. The settlers were upset with the government that they had to move out and that their towns had to be destroyed. However, the rabbis had no problem with it as they stated that the Sinai was not part of the Promised Land and Israel should not occupy it.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
34:13 Remember that Moses is planning for the time when Israel would be in the land even though he knew that he would not go in himself. Such was his commitment that he continued to seek the good of the people even though he would not benefit himself. Is this the way that we think of our brethren and sisters?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
34:17 In saying it was Eleazar and Joshua who were to divide the land we clearly see the change in leadership from Moses and Aaron who were both dead by the time Israel entered the land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
34:2 Way back in Num 14 as Israel were turned back into the wilderness, God said ‘when ye be come into the land’ – something which might have seemed most improbable at that time, we see now being fulfilled at the end of the wilderness with almost identical words. God keeps His word! We should always remember that.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
34:3 What we call the Dead Sea is always called the Salt Sea in Scripture. Doubtless a comment upon its make up whereas the name we give it is a consequence of the fact that it is high in minerals – nothing, or very little, actually lives in it.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
The present-day disputed West Bank is part of the Promised Land (Judea and Samaria). Also there are territories east of the River Jordan in present-day Jordan and Syria. These are the territories, from north to south, of: Manasseh (east); Gad; and Reuben. They were the conquered territories, from north to south, of: Bashan; Sihon/Ammon; Moab; and Edom.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
34:5 The river of Egypt is not the Nile but a wadi that runs through the Sinai peninsula about half way across the Sinai entering the Mediterranean. However, more significantly, it is one of the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham – Gen 15:18. Significantly the other border – The Euphrates – is not mentioned here in Numbers. This indicates that whilst the entering into the land of Canaan was a fulfilment of the promises to Abraham it was not the complete fulfilment. That must wait until Christ returns and the kingdom is re-established.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
34:14 In speaking in the past tense about the inheritance of Reuben we can see that these things were written after the east of Jordan had been conquered.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
34:6 The ‘Great Sea’ is the Mediterranean. Remember these borders were being described to a nation who had not seen the land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
Num 34:15 – The Book of Numbers records the commands and judgements that the Lord gave to Moses. This verse (also see, Num 33:2) confirms for us that the Book of Numbers was written down “on this side” (present tense) of the Jordan (i.e. East Bank) and therefore in the hands of the children of Israel before they entered the land.
Peter Moore [Erith, UK] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
34:17,19 Only two of those who had spied the land at the first are still alive to divide the land. Joshua and Caleb. This is a powerful lesson about the dangers of unbelief.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
34:20 Comparing the list inNum 1 with the list here it seems that the princes in this chapter are not the sons of the princes in Num 1. It is as if not only the princes died out but their remembrance was also forgotten.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
34:1 The people doubtless would remember that this was the charge That Moses gave – Num 1:4,16 – at the beginning of the journey. The poignancy of the fact that all those – except two – who were named at the beginning of the journey were all dead.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
34:2 This is probably the first time that the nation had considered what would happen in the land of Canaan. Not one of those who were alive at this point had ever seen that land, nor did they know its terrain, rivers and cities. So it was all quite new to them. One wonders what they understood from the way the division was described to them.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
34:29 One wonders whether the named individuals who were charged with dividing the land appreciated the responsibilities that they were being given. There is no mention that they actually did the work.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
34:13-14 So whilst the two and a half tribes had requested what territory they would like the remainder of the nation had to accept what was allocated by lot. However there is no record of any of the tribes complaining about the fact that the tribes who settled on the east of Jordan were able to choose where they lived.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
34:3-12 Of those at the border of the land there were only two men who had actually been into the land of Canaan - Joshua and Caleb. The place names would have been meaningless to the rest of the people. But it was their inheritance. They would have to become familiar with the land - we would do well to, likewise, be familiar with the choreography of the land of Israel. Such familiarity with the geography will help us to understand references to locations and their relationship with each other.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
34:17 The responsibility to oversee the ensuring that the division was according to God’s direction was given to two me. One from the tribe of Levi – The high priest, the other from the tribe of Judah – the spy who may had led the people in if they had not rebelled and listened to the two spies who were fearful.
The one who will finally take the inheritance is a blend of the two. Jesus of the tribe of Judah who is now the high priest, but of the order of Melchisedec, not Levi.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
34 We have to presume that the nation who were about to cross Jordan to take their inheritance did not know where the various places named actually were in the land of Canaan. Their locations would have become clear as they walked through the land and conquered it.
Do we take time to become familiar with the geography of the land of Israel throughout the history of God’s people residing there?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
34:17-28 Notice that whilst a man of each of the tribes was chosen to divide the land there is no one from Reuben or Goad. This is because heir inheritance had already been established on the east of Jordan.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
v. 2,3 - This concept of there being things that God does not reveal is not exclusive to this passage. Deut.29:29 is quite clear. We are only allowed to know so much at this stage. Job 11:7,8, 38:4-40:2, Rom.11:33,34.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v. 1 The men of Hezekiah copied out some of the proverbs of Solomon. Proverbs 25:1 - 29:27 is the block of proverbs which they copied out. Therefore we should be looking for aspects of these proverbs which answer to Hezekiah's experience. Maybe we should look for instruction on how a king should behave.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.6,7 - Here is a very simple example of the humility of mind that God requires of man. If we seek humility, as we should, let us praise the Lord our Father regularly, as the action of praise has the recognition of our own frailty paramount in its outworking.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
SEARCH IT OUT
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter;
to search out a matter is the glory of Kings."
The Bible is the Word of God. Inspired men wrote as God gave them the message. The word of God is perfect. There are no mistakes in it and it has been preserved for thousands of years and translated into our native languages so that we are able to read the message God had given us. But it is more than just a message from God to man - it is an invitation to become part of the family of God and to live with Him through eternity. Every page and every letter of this amazing book is there for a reason and it carries the signature of God. All the way through the Bible are patterns, types and prophesies that God has hidden from plain view and urges us to search out. The whole message of the Bible can be seen in what seem like simple stories in the text. Even lists of people's ancestors can tell their own incredible story if we just take the time to search out the jewels that God has hidden. Show your worth, honour and glory by searching his word today.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Robert
:14 The clouds without rain is quoted (Jude 12) to speak of those who appear to have something to offer - actually they present themselves as having some status. However they are destructive. We must beware of anyone who is drawing attention to himself.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
There are many beautiful allusions which can be seen in the Proverbs.
In today's Proverb reading (25:11), a fitly (aptly) spoken word is likened to apples of gold in a picture (framework or border) of silver.
The Song of Solomon uses the figure of apples to describe sweetness, fragrance, and love (Song 2:3; 2:5; 7:8: 8:5). Such attributes befit the aptly spoken word.
But why is there gold in a frame of silver?
Gold is the most precious of metals because it shines brightly and does not tarnish.
Gold represents the metal of tried saints (1 Pet. 1:7). Remember the exhortation to the Laodiceans (Rev.3:18)
Unlike gold, silver will naturally tarnish and if left alone will turn black. Blackness represents sin. The (silver) half shekel of the sanctuary for the ransom of the Children of Israel is indicative of this reality. Silver is also associated with idolatry. For example, the statues of the goddess Diana (who was the Ephesian version of the Babylonian goddess Semiramis) were made of silver (Acts 19:24).
And so we have apples of gold in a framework of silver.
God's saints are found framed in a world of sin. Their responsibility is to shine untarnished amidst the surrounding ungodliness (Phil. 2:15). Their voice should be wholesome and Godly (Col. 3:8; Col. 4:6; 1 Pet. 4:11).
The spoken word should give glory to God (1 Cor. 10:31).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Michael
25:24 Hezekiah's men 'copied out' some of Solomon's proverbs Prov 25:1. This one is found earlier in Prov 21:9. Work out why it is re-presented here.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
V.4-5 As separating impurities from ore, leaves pure silver, same as gold.(1 Pet 1:7) So taking from a king wicked counsellors leaves a wise ruler.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
SELF CONTROL
"Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self control." (Prov 25:28)
Self control is one of the backbones of our Christian life. More than that, it is the basis for any life that is lived in a respectable way. Self control is what helps us to put our faith into action and to act in the way that we know that we should. It is also the strength that prevents us from doing the things that we know we should not do. Self control, then, is our defence against doing what we should not do and keeps us within the boundaries of what we should do.
Maybe this is what Solomon meant when he spoke about a lack of self control being like a city whose walls were broken down. Without it's walls the city is totally unprotected. Anyone can come in - not just friends - but also enemies. The enemies who are freely able to enter can wreak havoc on an unprotected city. The walls also provide boundaries from within, stopping people from straying away from the protection that is offered within the city.
Without city walls the residents of the city are as good as dead. Without self control we have no hope of living a Christ-like life and no hope of the eternal life we have been offered. Without self control our defences against sin are too weak to have any effect.
Let's strengthen our self control and build up the walls in the life we live.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Robert
GENTLENESS AND FORCE
"Through patience a ruler can be persuaded, and a gentle tongue can break a bone." (Prov 25:15)
There is an old story about the sun and the wind. They were having an argument about who was stronger and as neither could win the argument, they decided to have a competition. An old man was walking through a park wearing a coat, so the sun and the wind agreed that whoever could get the coat off the old man would be the winner. The wind began first by blowing a hard, cold wind at the man. The old man pulled his coat around him and walked on. So the wind whipped itself up into a hurricane force, but the harder it blew, the tighter the old man gripped his coat. Finally the wind gave up.
Then the sun tried. Gently it came out and shone on the old man. Slowly the sun grew warmer and warmer. The old man loosened his grip on the coat, loosened the buttons and finally took his coat right off. The strength of gentleness and kindness had won out over the ferocity of the wind.
Are we the wind or the sun? Do we bowl in determined to make change or get our message across whether people like it or not? Or do we, as Solomon advises, with patience and gentleness watch as people melt to our touch. We can achieve much more doing it slowly and gently than we can by force.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Robert
V.6-7 Do not intrude into the presence of the king, for the elevation of the humble is honorable, but the humbling of the proud disgraceful. (Luke 14:8-10)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
The first two verses of today’s chapter, (Prov 25:1,2), gives us a look at two things we might not otherwise have known. a) Hezekiah’s men actually copied out some of the words Solomon had written – another good work to add to Hezekiah’s list; and b) God purposely hides some of His activities, so that intelligent and godly kings can search them out. This makes us think of the wonders of nature which some of our clever biologists are discovering, but which have of-course been created in the first place by God.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to David
25:21-22 These verses are quoted – Rom 12:20– as instruction to those of us who want to be acceptable living sacrifices. Now the proverb is not teaching us that we can bring punishment upon others by our actions. Rather, as the verse continues, our behaviour marks a difference between the way that God deals with them and us. The judgment is of God.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
V.26 It is a well known fact that one can not get healthy and pure water from a polluted source, likewise, when the righteous are oppressed by the wicked, their ability to do good is lessened, or even possibly destroyed.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to John
V.20 - incongruous and unhelpful behaviors; a person who is deeply sad or depressed doesn't need a tactless person telling them to cheer up and snap out of it. It helps to be in tune with a person's feelings so you can have empathy and better connect with them; Rom 12:15;James 5:13 offer some insights into common sense psychology.
V.22 - "heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you" (NIV). I've heard it said this likely is an allusion to the smelting/purification/softening of ore with hot coals so fine metals can be extracted. Perhaps it is referring here to softening and refining attitudes/dispositions in enemies (v.21) so as to win them over by treating them well (Matt 5:43-48). In his 1987 book "Bible Studies: An Anthology", p256-7, Harry Whittaker feels the idea appears to be the unresponsive enemy heaps upon himself a fiery judgment from God; but for you, who persevere in the imitation of Christ, there will also be coals of fire from the divine presence to cleanse and purify. Thus: "the Lord shall reward thee" (Eze 10:2;Psa 140:9-10;120:2-4;Isa 6:5-7).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Charles
25:9 The wise man’s counsel is to resolve issues with those concerned rather than to go about as a talebearer seeking support from others who are not involved in the dispute.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
25:8 The idea of not being hasty to go to strife seems to be the basis of Jesus’ parable – Luke 14:31
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
V.22 The expression: heap burning coals of fire upon his head is also used in Rom 12:20. The phrase means to make the individual in question burn with shame. It is hope that the enemy, being shown kindness, will become shamed and repent of his hostility. In Egypt, guilty people were made to carry a pan of burning coals on their head as an indication of shame and repentance.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
25:18 The word translated ‘maul’ <04650> is only found in this passage in Scripture However it is derived from the word <06327> which is variously translated ‘scatter’ ‘disperse’ or other similar words. Thus we learn, by looking at the way related words are used elsewhere, what a word which only occurs once in Scripture means.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
V.4 When Gog wreaks havoc on Israel two-thirds of the population will die (Zech 13:8). The third that shall be saved by Jesus will realize that He is the messiah. Then their education will begin. Yahweh says that he will refine them as silver (Zech 13:9).
V.16 Everything in moderation. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof (Matt 6:34).
V.17 Don’t overstay your welcome and don’t live in someone’s back pocket. A modern saying: Too much familiarity breeds contempt.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
25:5 The principle of the throne being established in righteousness is built into a prophecy of Messiah – Isa 16:5
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
25:11-12 These two couplets teach us that a wise man will listen to reproof even if he does not like what he is hearing.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
"If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; And if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, And the LORD shall reward thee."
This passage is not about us, and our hurt feelings, and how we can get back at those who have wronged us by causing them pain.
We find the parallel passage in Rom 12:17-21, "...Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."
We are commanded to deal kindly with our enemy; its primary purpose in doing so is to bring about his repentance! Adam Clarke's Commentary explains it this way: "Thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head - Not to consume, but to melt him into kindness; a metaphor taken from smelting metallic ores."
To overcome evil, we must be doing good. Imagine the emotional discomfort your enemy will feel when he recalls his conduct toward you, and becomes remorseful! If we are the "salt of the earth" and "light of the world" (Matt 5:13-14), we will love our enemies, pray for them, and do good to them as Jesus commanded his disciples (Matt 5:44).
What a powerful lesson it is to heap coals of fire on our enemy's head! Now we know how we are to love them and why.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Valerie
Prov 25:14 – We are warned not to boast. Because those who boast of a gift of falsehood or elevate themselves through what they say are “like clouds and wind without rain”. Boasting is like clouds that do not produce rain. Clouds with out rain have nothing to contribute to building up and sustaining life. Plants without water die, similarly, we need the life giving water of life (Isa 55:1) which is the Word of God.
“Cloud” here is the Hebrew word (<5387>) meaning “exalted” or “rising mist” or “vapour” (also see, James 4:14). Our lives are like a vapour it is present for a short time then vanishes.
Clouds blown about by the wind remind us of those who are blown about by every wind of doctrine (Eph 4:14).
The Proverbs theme is picked up by Jude in his Epistle, see Jude 1:12. Some faithless individuals in the first century ecclesia are described as being like “clouds without water, carried about of winds.
Peter Moore [Erith, UK] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
25:13-19 When one is sending a message one should choose carefully the messenger. The message may be given faithfully. However the calibre of the messenger will determine the value of the transmitted message.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
25:2 The Scriptures contain many things which are “hidden” from the forward and those who do not wish to know. We have the “honour” to search these things out. Those who “tremble” at the word of God – Isa 66:2– will have the “honour” of finding those things. Is this how we view reading scripture or is it simply an action we take lightly?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
1. Prov 25:2 - Prov 29:27 there are 130 proverbs in this section and the numerical value of Hezekiah's name in Hebrew adds up to 130.
2. Prov 25:2 - the role of believersas future kings and priests is to search out a matter (Acts 17:10-11;Rev 1:5-6).
3. Prov 25:3 - the spiritual heights of Solomon when he started and Hezekiah's strength with the invasion of the Assyrian army in contrast to the spiritual depths of Solomon in his latter years and the princes who ruled during Hezekiah's sickness stripping the gold from the temple.
4. Prov 25:4-5 - both verses connected by "take away from"; V4 dross suggests the impurities in an individual or nation (this is the concept); V5 this verse is the application of the concept (Isa 1:4-6,24-27); V5 has possible application to the destruction of the wicked when Christ comes (Dan 12:2;Psa 145:20;1Cor 15:24-28).
5. Prov 25:6-7 (Luke 14:7-11;22:24-27;1Pet 5:5-6).
6. Prov 25:8-10 - (NET) Do not go out hastily to litigation, or what will you do afterward when your neighbor puts you to shame? 9 When you argue a case with your neighbor, do not reveal the secret of another person, 10 lest the one who hears it put you to shame and your infamy will never go away" (Matt 7:2-3;Luke 12:58-59).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Charles
7. Prov 25:15 - a soft answer can accomplish much (1Pet 3:15-16).
8. Prov 25:18 - the harm caused by a false witness (1Tim 5:13;Exo 20:16;Matt 26:59-60).
9. Prov 25:19 - basic functions like eating and walking depend on teeth and feet; a bad tooth and a slipping foot are illustrations of someone failing you when you need them most (Isa 36:4-9;Job 6:14).
10. Prov 25:23 - (NET) "The north wind brings forth rain, and a gossiping tongue brings forth an angry look."
11. Prov 25:25 - a thirsty 'soul'<5315> - can the false modern day concept of a ghostlike immortal soul actually thirst? Where would the cold waters be contained? A soul is better rendered a living breathing creature human or animal here or in some cases "life".
12. Prov 25:26 - (1Kin 11:1-10); in contrast to Christ who offers living water (John 4:10-14;7:37-39).
13. Prov 25:27 - eating too much honey will make us physically sick, searching for self glory will make us spiritually sick.
14. Prov 25:28 - both the city and the man are unprotected, susceptible, and easily conquered (Eze 38:11;1Kin 11:1-10).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Charles
25:2-3 Whist it is the honour of kings to “search” the heart of the king is “unsearchable” so whilst we can search and search it is only through God’s revelation in His word that we can have wisdom.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
25:28 What this Proverb says is so obvious. But do we take heed of it? Sometimes we justify our outbursts by saying we have a “short fuse”. Actually what we are doing when we say such a thing is to acknowledge the truth of the Proverb and acknowledge that we have not controlled our own spirit.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
25:26 The wise man is here encouraging the faithful to, as we might say “stick to his guns”. When we know something to be true we should not acquiesce to the error of an opponent.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
25:2 The word “glory” and “honour” are the same Hebrew word. This not just an academic point. The relevance is that we share God’s values in searching out the things He has concealed in His word.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
24:18 The word translated “maul” <4650> is only found here in the whole of the Old Testament. It is based on the word <6327> which is often translated “scatter”. We see that is exactly what false witness does. It divides those who hear the slander.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
“It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.”
Search is the Hebrew word chaeqer, # <2713>, “to penetrate; hence to examine intimately.” Conceal is cathar, # <564>, “to hide (by covering).”
There is a saying that goes like this: “He that would seek for pearls must dive below” (cf. Matt 13:45,46). Many matters in the Bible are concealed in parables, allegories, metaphors, similitudes and similes, lessons not all that apparent on the surface. They must be seriously studied. God conceals and reveals, and only diligent searches bring to light new treasures from His Divine Storehouse. When we strive to uncover a matter, we glorify God and He will reveal the deep matter while covering them from others (cf. Mark 4:11). We cannot possibly phantom the deep things of God if we are merely surface readers.
Rulers, like lawyers, gather all the facts, seek counsel, examine witnesses, review precedence, consider consequences and deliberate before drawing conclusions and making a judgment. God instructed Moses on how to deal with hearsay. They were to make a search, ask diligently, and investigate the matter before executing the appropriate judgment (Deut 13:14-18). The same procedure applied to conflicting testimony, a false accuser, and the judgment executed was not vengeance (Deut 19:15-21)! Kings and rulers need counsel, we need counsel, but God does not.
As future kings, we need to seek now to know how to judge a matter fairly and how to rule righteously (cf. Rev 5:10). It is not enough to be diligent; we need to be righteous too.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Valerie
TRUSTWORTHY MESSENGER
Emails, mobile phones, social media, instant messaging, teleconferences ... these have all removed the need for the messenger who would run between one person and another to deliver important communication.
So when I read, "Like the coolness of snow at harvest time is a trustworthy messenger to those who send him; he refreshes the spirit of his masters," (Prov 25:13), I didn't think much about it. I had been thinking of the man who runs with news of the battle, or the runner who delivers the news from family members miles away.
Then I read John chapter 7. In that chapter we see the contrast between the people who whispered and gossipped about Jesus, and Jesus who was the faithful messenger from God.
We don't have to run, or ride horses great distances, to pass on messages any more, but there is still a great message of God that needs to be shared. If we want to be the sort of person that refreshes the spirit of God, our Master, then we need to be bold and strong to share this message of hope and love to the world. Let us be a trustworthy messenger like Jesus was.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Robert
25:4-5 the simple analogies are the most powerful. We can all see the benefit of purifying silver. That lesson is true in matters of rulership.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
“… For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.”
What appears to be so plain, isn’t always so plain! The apostle Paul in Rom 12:20,21 concluded the chapter of overcoming the evil of those who wronged us is by doing good to them. This gives us a better understanding of this Proverb, as Paul parallels it. To interpret this as God wanting us to be nice and do good to our enemies so that their judgment will be worse in the end is not love (cf. Matt 5:44,45).
When we do good to someone who has wronged us, heaping coals fire upon his head is a metaphor, perchance, it melts his hardened heart and feels remorse over what he had done. It is to be interpreted in the context given. By showing kindness in face of meanness, we overcome evil. We feel no bitterness or animosity. With such a behaviour the LORD is please and He will reward it even if s/he does not repent.
E.W. Bullinger in his Companion Bible Notes writes, “heap, &c. = receive from thine enemy [and place] upon his head. Figure of speech Ellipsis (Relative), App- 6. As hatha = receive, the Ellipsis must be supplied: i.e. If thou doest good to one whose burning words Prov 16:27; Prov 26:23) thou hast received, they will burn him in another sense. Illustration: David (1Sam 24:16-22).”
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
25:25 The Hebrew for “news” <8052> is found in Isaiah Isaiah 53:1: “Who hath believed our report <8052>”. Paul quotes this and applies it to the gospel: “But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?” (Rom. 10:16). The “far country” can represent heaven as in, for example, the parable of the Pounds: “He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return” (Lk. 19:12). The gospel comes from heaven, as Peter wrote: “… by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Spirit sent down from heaven” (1 Pet. 1:12). So the ultimate “good news from a far country” is the gospel.
Nigel Bernard [Pembroke Dock UK] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Nigel
25:6-7 Pride is destructive. We should not think of ourselves as being more important than we are. There is a saying “people and water find their own level”.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
Prov 25:5 We often read verses like this and think of times past but are applicable to us today perhaps in the workplace? It reminded me of a team that I worked with a few years ago. Wherever we see a manager there is often one of two individuals that speak to the king (manager) wicked things often to make themselves good to the detriment of others.
Prov 25:14 boasting about their own efforts
Prov 25:18 Making others look bad.
Prov 25:27 Glorifying themselves to their manager in order to get reward
As sons of God we should remember the words of Eph 6:6-10 and remember to be as servants not masters.
It is tempting to retaliate and get invloved in such conversation but v21 gives us advice hard though it may be!
stephen cox [Sedgley UK] Comment added in 2021 Reply to stephen
25:6-7 Self-aggrandisement is a weakness of human nature. It was seen in Jesus’ disciples who argued who was the greatest. Jesus also noticed it amongst those that came to see him. They sought positions of prominence in feasts. (Luke 14:8)
The faithful servant of God will not be so presumptuous.
In the presence of the King none of us have any status – and yet we have! We are all sons of God. But we are all on an equal footing.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
25:19 There is a contrast in this verse with the man of verse :13. The faithful disciples will assess the reliability of a teacher before just accepting their words. As Paul exhorted the Thessalonians “prove all things” 1Thess 5:21
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
25:13 the image presented is clear to understand. It can have an application in our day. Consider the impact a good friend can have when visiting someone say in hospital or confined to home or a care home.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
v. 2-10 - Was this a fulfilment of Amos 5:13-15? In Matt.10:16, Jesus sends his disciples and warns them of the same dangers. His advice to them at that time is interesting. Luke 10:3, Acts 20:29.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v. 11 That the Jews sought Jesus at the feast even though he was not obviously there confirms that it was Jesus's custom to fulfil the requirements of the law that every male should appear three times in the year at the main feasts Exo 23:17
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
7:50 Remember that Jesus had already spoken to Nicodemus (Chapter 3) and that this chapter contains a number of echoes of the language that Jesus used when speaking with Nicodemus. Here Nicodemus begins to show his true colours as a secret disciple of Jesus. The words Jesus has spoken to him are beginning to bear fruit.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT JESUS?
People were divided over who Jesus really was. Some thought he was a prophet. Others thought he could possibly be the Messiah and others were convinced that he was an expert liar. Not even his own brothers believed him. Yet those who did not believe, even thought they were the most knowledgeable and influential religious experts of the day, could not prove that Jesus was not who he said he was. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the Messiah. They did not want to believe because he challenged their thinking and traditions and made them feel uncomfortable.
And so we can look through history and find that people have always struggled with the same question. Who is Jesus? A prophet? A liar? Or the Messiah? The important question to ask now is, who do you say Jesus is? Your answer will influence your actions. If you believe that Jesus is a liar then it is important that you prove your point beyond reasonable doubt. If you believe that Jesus is a prophet then you must learn from him. If you believe he is the Messiah then you must trust him, believe him and follow him, no matter what the cost.
What do you say?
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Robert
:2 In saying that tabernacles' was near we have moved on about 6 months from the incidents in the previous chapter.
Passover was the 14th day of the 1st month (Leviticus 23:5) whereas Tabernacles started on 15th day of the 7th month (Leviticus 23:34)
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
7:52 - "Search and look" - Jonah was the only Old Testament prophet from Galilee. He came from Gath-Hepher (2 Kings 14:25- winepress of the well). Hepher means- to pry or search out.
Matt Drywood [Hamilton Book Road (Can)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Matt
Jesus was gaining major status in the eyes on many. Even the officers (subordinates) of the chief priests and Pharisees attested: Never man spake like this man. (v.46).
Further provoked by Nicodemus' question (v.52), the Pharisees retorted defensively: Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet. This means, perhaps, no major prophet.
The Pharisees might have been aware that Jonah (and perhaps Nahum) was from Galilee, but the four pillars of Hebrew prophecy, Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were not.
Thus, from the Pharisee's viewpoint, the argument could have been: You are saying that this Jesus is a major prophet, but search the scriptures and see that no major prophet has ever come from Galilee. However, the Pharisees knew that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (Mic 5:2; v.42). But, they probably did not know that Jesus was born there.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Michael
V.2 We are now just six months away from the crucifixion.(from the feast of tabernacles to the the Passover) There was a move to have Christ put away during this feast.(V.20,21,25) During the feast an attempt to arrest Jesus was made. (V30) But, on the last day of the feast the Sanhedrin sent the temple guard to arrest Him, but, came back empty handed. (V.32,46) It was at time that Nicodemus stepped forward saying, That a man was innocent until proven guilty. (V.52)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
7:3 His disciples encouragement that he go to Jerusalem show the extent to which Jesus' works in Galilee were an embarrassment to his family.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
v 23 circumcision vs healing on the Sabbath: the contrast of causing a wound vs healing; of a small part vs the whole man
Wendy Johnsen [Nanaimo, BC, Canada] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Wendy
7:15 The Jews amazement was because Jesus had not been to any of their Rabbinical schools. They thought that they were the source of all knowledge about Scripture. Jesus had not been taught by them so he, by implication, could not know anything. However they could clearly see that his exposition had credibility.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
a) It’s possible that one of the officers who failed to arrest Jesus tried to make up for this later by slapping him in the presence of Annas, the High Priest’s father in law (John 18:22).
b) Nicodemus had obviously been very impressed by Jesus’ words to him. In today’s chapter he speaks up in favour of not pre-judging Jesus, and by so saying he diffuses a difficult situation, John 7:45-53. Jesus’ hour was not yet come.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to David
V.50 After three years we are once again introduced to Nicodemus. We see how he has matured in his eventual commitment to serve Christ. He showed great courage in insisting that Jesus be given a trial, pointing out to the other Pharisees that he was innocent until proven guilty.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to John
7:6 In what way was ‘your time is always ready’? In one way their time was always ready to repent and believe in him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
The one work spoken of in v21 appears to be the healing of the man at the pool of Bethesda in 5:5-10.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Rob
7:4 It is difficult to understand what the brothers mean by suggesting that Jesus did things ‘in secret’ as by this time in his ministry he had been all round Galilee and in Jerusalem preaching. Unless they wished to denigrate his teaching as having little impact.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
V.1 Jesus left Judea because there were some out to kill him.
V.3 His brethren would mean those from Jesus’ natural family. There is no reason why Joseph and Mary could not or should not have more children after Jesus. It is only the Catholic Church that denies this happened to perpetuate the virginity of Mary.
V.5 At that point they did not believe Jesus was the Messiah as He had not taken political control (as the Jews expected the Messiah to do). Nevertheless, Jesus’ brethren had the experience of seeing many of His miracles.
James the son of Alphaeus was one of Jesus’ brethren: whether a brother; cousin; or kinsman. He is called the Lord’s brother in Gal 1:19. He is also called an apostle which shows that his earlier sceptical position had changed. Also, it appears that James became the leader of the ecclesia at Jerusalem (Acts 21:17,18).
V.13 fear of the Jews means fear of the Jewish leaders.
V.14 Jesus preached in the synagogue despite having some in Jerusalem ready to kill him (v.25).
V.35 The Jews speculated were Jesus would go. Would he go to the Jews scattered (dispersed) among the Gentiles (Greeks), (i.e. in the former Empire founded by Alexander the Great)? Or, would he go to the Gentiles (Greeks) themselves?
Vs.41,42 Since early childhood, Jesus’ home was in Galilee. However, he was born in Bethlehem which fulfils prophecy saying that the Messiah will come from Judah (Mic 5:2; Matt 2:1). Ephratah means Judah and is attached to Bethlehem to distinguish it from Bethlehem in Zebulun. The Jews evidently were unaware that Jesus was born in Bethlehem Ephratah.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
7:10 ‘in secret’ in a way echoes the accusation of his brethren in verse 4 but of course Jesus was not seeking to avoid being seen as subsequent events in the record show. When he was at the feast he became very ‘public’. However there are times when it is good not to be seen openly and there are times when it is important to be ‘public’ with ones comments.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
7:12 So whilst the people had gone to Jerusalem because of the ‘feast’ Jesus’ teaching and actions was very much a topic of conversation. On the one hand the Jewish leaders seemed to oppose Jesus and on the other hand his teaching and certainly his miracles were refreshing. This was the challenge that the multitudes had to respond to. Do we listen to the ‘authorities’ or do we respond to what we hear from Jesus?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
John 7:18 – Jesus draws on part of Prov 25:27 “so for men to search their own glory is not glory”. When Jesus came up to the Temple to the feast of Tabernacles, he came to preach the doctrine of his heavenly Father to any who would listen (John 7:16-17). He did not come to “seek his own glory” but the glory of his Father who sent him. We must be careful to ensure that we do not seek to exalt ourselves before others in our service to God. In everything we do we must ensure “that God in all things may be glorified”, (see, 1Pet 4:11).
Peter Moore [Erith, UK] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
Summary Of John
7:1 Jesus in Galilee
7:2 Feast of Tabernacles
7:2-9 Brothers did not believe
7:10-31 Jesus at the feast teaching – people did not want to speak openly of Jesus (7:13)
7:32-42 Pharisees sent officers to take Jesus
7:43-44 Division amongst Pharisees
7:45-53 Nicodemus enters discussion about trying men
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
Wes Booker [South Austin Texas USA] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Wes
7:13 The people were in a dilemma. They had high expectations of Jesus and wanted to talk about him. However the leaders had created a situation whereby people were reluctant to speak of Jesus. The leaders had said that anyone who acknowledged Jesus would be put out of the synagogue as we learn later inJohn 9:22. The decision had been taken already but is not explained until John 9.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
REACTIONS TO JESUS
1. UNBELIEF (v.1-5) - The brothers did not really believe in him. It was really a reaction of half-mused teasing contempt.
They didn't see it as a matter of life or death.
2. HATRED (v.7,19) There was the sheer hatred of the scribes & pharisees and of the chief priests. Jesus drove through
their petty rules & regulations and the political life styles of the Sadducees was threatened. They had a vested interest.
3. MURDER (v.30, 32) Both of the above were consumed with wanting to eliminate Jesus.
4. CONTEMPT (v.15, 47-49) There was an arrogant contempt - this was academic snobery.
5. CURIOUSITY (v.11-12, 43) The crowd reacted 2 fold: v.11 - the reaction of interest adn v.12, 43 - the reaction of discussion - there was danger in both
When we are searching for God's truth, we need to make sure that we look at His word carefully and prayerfully with an open heart & mind. Don't jump to conclusions before knowing more of what the scriptural principals are.
Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
7:8-9 Is it reasonable to conclude that Jesus’ brothers thought that he would not go up o the feast? The answer is clearly that they thought he would go to the feast. Jesus delayed going and did not go with his family. Possibly indicating that his allegiance was not to his half brothers. He went to Jerusalem to the feast when it was convenient to him, along with his disciples.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
7:13 What a sad comment! The people who were to be taught by the “Jews” - that is the religious leaders – were frightened of them! It is all too easy to give the impression of censure when we are asked questions and so cause those asking to be less likely to ask again.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
“AFTER these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.”
Jewry is # <2449> “Ioudaia, it is the feminine of # <2453>– the Judaean land.”
Jews is # <2453> Ioudaios, “(in the sense of # <2455> as a country; Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah.”
Ioudaios is derived from the Aramaic, Yehudhai.
The correct translation of this verse reads: “…He would not walk in Judaea, because the Judaeans sought to kill him.”
In Dan 5:13, we read: “Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king spake and said unto Daniel, Art thou that Daniel, which art of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Jewry?”
Judah is # <3061>, Judaea and corresponds to # <3063>, Yehuwdah (or Judah). This is in reference to the land. (Yahudah is the correct Hebrew spelling).
Jewry is # <3061>, Judaea and corresponds to # <3063>, Yehuwdah -Yahudah (or Judah). This also is in reference to the land.
The correct translation of this verse reads: “… Art thou that Daniel, which art of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Judah?”
The translators improperly use the word “Jewry” and exhibit an ignorance of the meaning of the original Greek and Hebrew words. Furthermore, the letter Y was incorrectly replaced by the letter J. Judah is correctly, Yahudah or as some write it, Yehudah. The word Jew, prior to the 18th Century simply did not exist in any of the Bibles! Jew is the 18th century contracted and corrupted English word for the 4th Century Latin, Iudaeus found in St. Jerome’s Vulgate Edition. This is no longer doubted.
The word, Jew, today bears no relation to the 18th Century redactors’ original connotation of the word who regarded it and only understood it to mean those living in Judaea. The word, Jew, in our modern usage is a misrepresentation, a slang word coined by the Babylonian conquerors and the translators inadvertently classed the Semitic tribes of the sons of Israel with the diverse mass of races and religions living in Judaea at the time. Their indiscriminate use of the word, Jew, has become a modern colloquial idiom without regard, or recognition of the true and Biblical meaning of the original words!
The word, Judaism, was first coined by the Historian, Flavius Josephus in the first Century when he described their history, civilization, language, poetry, religion, science, manners, customs, and institutions. It was not coined with the intent of starting a religion nor is Judaism even mentioned in the Bible!
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Valerie
7:8 Indeed Jesus was known to be of Nazareth and his parents [human] were known. However Jesus is making the point that even though his human background was known he was “of God” – a point that the Jews had acknowledged – John 3:2
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
Nick Kendall [In Isolation] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Nick
7:52 The leaders who were debating Jesus’ status show either an ignorance of their Old Testament or an unwillingness to accept Jonah as a prophet as he came from Galilee – 2Kin 14:25 for Gathhepher was in Galilee.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
“(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
A reader writes: “Peter had been given the power of the spirit by our Lord Jesus so could well have received this wisdom directly from the Father. He was able to preach, heal the sick and recall events sufficiently clearly that he could help Mark with the second gospel and write two epistles of his own. All this was through inspiration. 2 Timothy 3: 16 -17. Peter and the other apostles had a measure of the spirit gifts before the day of Pentecost but received the spirit in greater fullness after the Ascension. This enabled them to preach the gospel and perform miracles to the glory of God.”
My reply: I think the best way to answer this is by beginning that God’s Holy Spirit (Heb. ruach; Greek pneuma) is everywhere and described in many different ways: It is described as the “power of the Highest,” (Luke 1:35; Acts 1:8; 2Tim 1:7). It is the very expression of God’s power actively working even in His servants. God is Spirit (John 4:24); He is omnipresent and His Spirit permeates throughout the universe (Jer 23:24; Psa 139:7-12).
The Holy Spirit is referred to as a gift (Acts 10:45); it can be quenched (1Thess 5:19); it can be poured out on people (Acts 2:17); we are baptized with it (Matt 3:11). We can drink of it (John 7:37-39); partake of it (Heb 6:4); renews us (Titus 3:5); must be stirred up with us (2Tim 1:6).
The Holy Spirit is also designated as “the Holy Spirit of promise” (Eph 1:13); “the earnest [guarantee] of our inheritance” (Eph 1:14); “the spirit of wisdom and revelation” (Eph 1:17).
The Holy Spirit is represented as a dove (Matt 3:16); water (John 4:14; John 7:37-39); wind (Acts 2:2); fire (Acts 2:3) – the four elements necessary to sustain life!
The New Testament books came into process to be written down after Pentecost around 45 A.D. according to Historians. The events you refer to happened after Pentecost. Prior to Pentecost, neither Peter nor the rest of the apostles are recorded as having the Holy Spirit dwelling within them.
God revealed to Peter concerning the Christ, which enabled him to declare confidently Jesus is the Christ (Matt 16:16,17). This does not mean Peter had the Holy Spirit power/gifts in him in any measure. Shortly after, Peter went from being commended by Christ to being told, “Get thee behind me, Satan…” (Matt 16:15,16,22,23 cf. Matt 26:33-35). Peter firmly intended to stand with Jesus, but found himself powerless to do so. The record of James and John in Luke 9:54-56 revealed their inability to properly discern the situation (John 12:16; cf. Matt 15:16). Matt 10:19,20; Mark 13:11; Luke 12:12 are all in the future tense, prophetic incidences the apostles would experience after Pentecost. God reveals Himself to us too in many different ways, but we do not have the “gifts” of the Holy Spirit as given to the Apostles at Pentecost. By receiving the power of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (cf. Eph 4:8-12), Christ’s disciples became emboldened and empowered and given various gifts to do the task of proclaiming the Gospel throughout the nations (Acts 2:1-4; 1Cor 6:19;12:7-11). They were now the temple of God (1Cor 3:16) in which the Holy Spirit dwells, which they were not nor had prior to Pentecost while Christ was with them (cf. John 14:26; John 15:26,27; John 16:13,15). We may be students of the Bible, but do not become “children” until Baptism.
Peter did not heal by inspiration. Inspiration is one thing, receiving power from on high to be witnesses of Christ in performing miracles for the Great Commission is quite another (Matt 4:19; Acts 1:8).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Valerie
7:20 Whilst the Jewish leaders were seeking Jesus’ life it is clear that their actions were totally unknown to the common people.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
7:47-48 What an arrogant presumption! The fact that none of the Pharisees believed was hardly a reason for disbelief! But they were incorrect. Nicodemus was a believer, but secretly.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
7:50 Two men on different Journeys
Twice only in scripture do we read “being one of (them)
Both men took a journey one from light to darkness, the other from darkness to light.
Which journey will we take?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
7:47-48 What an arrogant presumption! The fact that none of the Pharisees believed was hardly a reason for disbelief! But they were incorrect. Nicodemus was a believer, but secretly.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
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Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
7:49 Those speaking here saw themselves as the teachers in Israel. If it was that the people “knew not the law” it was an indictment of those very me who should have taught the people.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter